Warchild's comment on tube sites
 

If you think surfers don't upload full scenes to be "cool" you've got no clue at all. Lots of them do. Check out usenet, forums, torents and now tubes.

Now I'm not saying that's where the majority of content is coming from, you're right it's probably MOSTLY the site owners doing it. Never the less, people most certainly do exist that upload for the cool factor.


My friend Tanya introduced me to this dude friend of hers. We both drink a lot.


I told him I sold porn, and he got all pissed off. I asked why, and he had signed up to a site a several months previous where he got charged for 3 monthly memberships instead of 1 membership. He wanted a certain site on a certain sponsor, but instead was charged 3 different $39.99 a month US charges. This was $150 Canadian a month compared to the $50 or so he thought he was going to spend. Being the type of guy he is, he had no idea what a cross-sell was. He said the page has been changed now and the check boxes are up higher than they were before, but on his fairly small monitor they still are buried under text off the screen.

3 months passed and he checked his VISA bill, $450 in charges due to that 1 signup. He figured it would be more around $150... not $450!

Fast forward to now!

My friend complained to his other buddy about getting fucked for $450 for 3 months of adult membership costs. His other buddy laughed and then set him up with Bit Comet. Then he showed him where to get full site rips, and showed him Tube Sites. Not only that, but there is another scam where people setup tube site accounts with private videos and share the user/passes. The private videos can have entire full episodes uploaded and are just shared with hundreds or thousands of people. Just log in, and stream your episode of choice. Or, upload your own and add to the collective...


Yes the majority of tube sites are uploading stolen clips in hopes of generating bookmarkers, but don't forget that porn is now seen NOT as something private and taboo, but as necessary as food and water.


A guy who signed up for 1 fetish site, got charged $100 on top a month for cross-sells to sites that essentially have crap quality DVD-type content*, is not going to be buying ever again.


*which you can find stolen on tubes for free anyways

I hear lots of stories from people being over charged for porn sites.. in person.

There is one common thread out there right now from people who have paid for porn:


It's not worth it.



Seems to me like VOD is the way to go, but why even pay when someone with the smallest amount of internet ability can find any episode online for free?

The best thing that could happen to the industry is porn being made illegal without paid credit card access.

And what has it to do with warchild´s comment? He is right, he is always right. At least 99% of the time i agree with him.

The reply from Warchild was to one of my posts where I told him the tube owners were uploading the content themselves so they were breaking the law.

Sure if the tubes were like youtube where it is actually was surfers uploading everything, then just following the remove requests would allow them to skirt around the law. The deal is sites like tube8 ect..ect.. didn't have the surfers to upload all the vids they started with. It was all fake user accounts from ther start and I'd be willing to be a large amount still is.

btw you just have to look at the keywords to the videos..

You going to tell me a surfer knew to tag that video with "first, time, lesbian, blonde, brea"

get real..

VOD is a great long term sponsor for long term. Customers know what they are going to be buying with no X sale BS. They only use and pay when they want to.

I hear thats pretty common