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V_RocKs 12-17-2008 03:21 AM

Score 1 for NATS and Silver Cash...
 
I have been a Silver Cash affiliate since 2003. Since about 2 years ago I noticed they couldn't convert for shit and wondered WTF? So I stopped creating new shit to promote them.

Then I got a check from them for $200. WTF? I don't actively promote them and it seems all of my old shit wasn't converting... where did this check come from?

Then I noticed not only was I not getting money for my traffic. It seems I had no traffic for the pay period. Odd.

So I loaded their domain into the browser and low and behold, they have switched to NATS.

I log in and guess what? Suddenly the measly 50 to 100 hits still going to them from 2 to 4 year old campaigns is converting like hot cakes!

I will have to discuss the fact the same traffic supposedly wasn't converting for two years and now suddenly is with them in private for now.

But until then, Kudos to you for getting NATS!

Oracle Porn 12-17-2008 03:32 AM

weird same thing happened to me with extremepaychecks.

andy83 12-17-2008 04:08 AM

nice. heard of such cases before but glad to see someone posting something like that in these times

commonsense 12-17-2008 04:59 AM

Seen the exact same thing with a few other programs. Most recent that comes to mind is Grooby.

polish_aristocrat 12-17-2008 05:02 AM

I remember reading few years ago how programs stopped onverting after switching to NATS...

StaceyJo 12-17-2008 05:13 AM

Serve us good news.

teomaxxx 12-17-2008 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 15207376)
I remember reading few years ago how programs stopped onverting after switching to NATS...

on the other side, when Hushmoney leave Nats for their own interface, which was much worse then nats, they stopped to convert for 80% of GFYers, including me.

jscott 12-17-2008 05:58 AM

Dont need to change link codes? Can leave our old codes right?

crockett 12-17-2008 06:28 AM

Yea I stopped promoting them as well a year or two ago because I wasn't getting any sales anymore. I was doing pretty good with that Naughty Natlie or what ever her name was.

Are they updating their sites again? It seemed like for a while there was no new promo content.

seeandsee 12-17-2008 06:30 AM

that's strange

Ditosta 12-17-2008 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15207230)
I have been a Silver Cash affiliate since 2003. Since about 2 years ago I noticed they couldn't convert for shit and wondered WTF? So I stopped creating new shit to promote them.

Then I got a check from them for $200. WTF? I don't actively promote them and it seems all of my old shit wasn't converting... where did this check come from?

Then I noticed not only was I not getting money for my traffic. It seems I had no traffic for the pay period. Odd.

So I loaded their domain into the browser and low and behold, they have switched to NATS.

I log in and guess what? Suddenly the measly 50 to 100 hits still going to them from 2 to 4 year old campaigns is converting like hot cakes!

I will have to discuss the fact the same traffic supposedly wasn't converting for two years and now suddenly is with them in private for now.

But until then, Kudos to you for getting NATS!

Your not using a sales tracker? My niftystats stopped reporting SC stats for about a week that's when I logged in and noticed that they had switched to Nats! It was a great move IMO! Bump for an extra 200$

tranza 12-17-2008 06:47 AM

Too strange!

cherrylula 12-17-2008 07:16 AM

Its nice when they don't screw you out of old link codes, most definitely.

Wizzo 12-17-2008 07:34 AM

Its more likely that some of those old links got picked up by a SE and started delivering fresh traffic to those old pages, which has happened to me many times to many sponsors over the years. But I would also say it is good to see Silvercash using nats as it makes it much easier to navigate the site. :pimp

spacedog 12-17-2008 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 15207479)
on the other side, when Hushmoney leave Nats for their own interface, which was much worse then nats, they stopped to convert for 80% of GFYers, including me.

no shit.. I used to make mad fucking crazy sales with them until that switch.. then POOF.. fucking sales are next to nothing..

pornguy 12-17-2008 07:46 AM

Nice. So, now spend that $$ on something unexpected.

Pete-KT 12-17-2008 08:16 AM

Very nice to see money you didnt klnow about :)

Triple10Terry 12-17-2008 08:29 AM

Thats like finding money in the back pocket of your jeans. Nice!

EscortBiz 12-17-2008 08:39 AM

Since nats is something im considering id love to know how they did this without having you change links? One of my main reasons for not using nats now is because affs will have to change links but if it can be done without them doing anything it can be a big plus

shunga 12-17-2008 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15208072)
Since nats is something im considering id love to know how they did this without having you change links? One of my main reasons for not using nats now is because affs will have to change links but if it can be done without them doing anything it can be a big plus

If you talk with the NATS guys I'm sure they'd be only too pleased to go over the options with you. It can be done pretty painlessly.

stever 12-17-2008 09:39 AM

escortbiz I had affiliates on both epoch and ccbill before I got nats, and nats added php codes on my sites/servers to catch the old link codes and pass them over to the new nats code for that affiliate..it was rather easy.
the only issue I had with ccbill was not all webmasters personal info got imported over properly so we had to email all the affiliates and have them login to the new nats system and update or re-enter their info to get paid.

stever 12-17-2008 09:41 AM

i think it was only the ccbill affiliates who had personal info hidden checked in their ccbill account. but I believe alot of them hide this info.

SCORE Ralph 12-17-2008 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15208072)
Since nats is something im considering id love to know how they did this without having you change links? One of my main reasons for not using nats now is because affs will have to change links but if it can be done without them doing anything it can be a big plus

1) Import old users into NATS maintaining usernames
2) Create translation database or array for old trackingID > new NATS campaignID
3) Create script to generate new NATS code ie:

function generateNatsCode ($siteID, $campaignID) {
$programID = 1; // default program
$natsid = str_replace('=', '', base64_encode($campaignID.':'.$programID.':'.$site ID));
return $natsid;
}

4) Do a redirect to the new NATS URL with NATS ID intact. ie:

$natslink= generateNatsCode ($siteID, $campaign);
$url = "http://www.domain.com/track/$campaignID";
header("Location: $url\n\n");
exit;

5) Have apache run this script whenever an old ID is requested...

Shouldnt be too complicated to do.

EscortBiz 12-17-2008 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stever (Post 15208541)
escortbiz I had affiliates on both epoch and ccbill before I got nats, and nats added php codes on my sites/servers to catch the old link codes and pass them over to the new nats code for that affiliate..it was rather easy.
the only issue I had with ccbill was not all webmasters personal info got imported over properly so we had to email all the affiliates and have them login to the new nats system and update or re-enter their info to get paid.

so in the meantime it still tracked their sales thou?

stever 12-17-2008 10:08 AM

correct it never missed tracking sales...just the sales show up on their nats account
which is the same user/pass as their ccbill account..they just need to be advised about logging into your nats program in the future to check sales, update their info so you can pay them.

The Duck 12-17-2008 10:09 AM

Its great to get those unexpected payments from out of nowhere.

JohnV 12-17-2008 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jscott (Post 15207481)
Dont need to change link codes? Can leave our old codes right?

yup yup, you can leave the same old codes you had in place before the change to NATS and they will work just fine:thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 15207566)
Yea I stopped promoting them as well a year or two ago because I wasn't getting any sales anymore. I was doing pretty good with that Naughty Natlie or what ever her name was.

Are they updating their sites again? It seemed like for a while there was no new promo content.

We recently released several new HD sites and have a very unique niched site close to launch.

LeRoy 12-17-2008 10:34 AM

Maybe its the 200.00 webmaster referral. I guess it kicked in once the the affilaite made a sale or 2

B2BwithJoeD 12-17-2008 10:46 AM

Europeans Billing Europe!
 
Nice thread for NATS and SilverCash - keep up the fine work finding extra money going into 2009 :thumbsup


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