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AdPatron 12-17-2008 12:39 PM

What to do with newbies?
 
I get about 10-20 people a week wanting to know how they can get get into the industry. I avoid them because I just don't have the time to teach them what they need to know. I'm curious as to what I should do with them.

Si 12-17-2008 12:41 PM

Im currently developing an ebook for newbies, let me know if you might want to buy it

Intrinsic 12-17-2008 12:42 PM

hi joe i was wondering how to turn this thing on???????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????

AdPatron 12-17-2008 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrinsic (Post 15209414)
hi joe i was wondering how to turn this thing on???????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???????



Turn what on?

AdPatron 12-17-2008 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15209403)
Im currently developing an ebook for newbies, let me know if you might want to buy it



Buy it for what? If anything, I'd rather sell it to them.

alexchechs 12-17-2008 12:46 PM

I say "Pants them" in public

Scott McD 12-17-2008 12:49 PM

Tell them there is no money in porn... :2 cents:

AdPatron 12-17-2008 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by alexchechs (Post 15209444)
I say "Pants them" in public

You'll have to explain "pants them"...

Intrinsic 12-17-2008 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 15209438)
Turn what on?

HOW TO I TURN IT ON?!?!?!?!?!?!!
uuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggglleee

AdPatron 12-17-2008 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Intrinsic (Post 15209476)
HOW TO I TURN IT ON?!?!?!?!?!?!!
uuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggglleee

You mean your account at uglysob.com?

OMG Jim 12-17-2008 01:01 PM

Tons of articles at Klixxx

http://www.klixxx.com/new/index.php/articles

They actually have a 200 + page Klixxx University "book" as well :thumbsup

Have them email or ICQ
[email protected] - 420.486.256

Just passing on this info for Mike & Mona :)
_

Si 12-17-2008 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15209403)
Im currently developing an ebook for newbies, let me know if you might want to buy it

Well its going to have a lot of affiliate links on there advertising for websites and could make some good money.

if you find a way to distribute it I will put a load of links in it for you.

Just an idea

bobby666 12-17-2008 01:04 PM

order them to signup a paysite on a 100pps promo day

AdPatron 12-17-2008 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15209540)
Well its going to have a lot of affiliate links on there advertising for websites and could make some good money.

if you find a way to distribute it I will put a load of links in it for you.

Just an idea



Distributing is not a problem, that's the easy part.

pornguy 12-17-2008 01:09 PM

Joe. Send them to me... I can help them.

hominid4 12-17-2008 01:50 PM

Tell them to learn how we did... read, read, read; then dig in getting your hands dirty. Fuck newbies expecting to have their hands held.

bronco67 12-17-2008 02:05 PM

Heys Joe. How cans I make moneyz in internets adult? I could do what they told me what do money and stuff and you tell me yes money. help pleez. lol!!!

Machete_ 12-17-2008 02:07 PM

Tell them about you make easy money with Zango, it should save you time

seeandsee 12-17-2008 02:08 PM

make some page and direct them therew

andy83 12-17-2008 02:10 PM

yeah joe, send them to pornguy

Tjeezers 12-17-2008 03:01 PM

I keep all newbies myself, send them to a platform i host and learn them how to generate some sites and get organic traffic, the best newbie i have makes 3K a month on cam projects and the smallest makes 40$ a month and is already happy.

I love newbies, they are the foundation of each webmaster, unless you feel yourself to good for them...

AdPatron 12-17-2008 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ebus_dk (Post 15209850)
Tell them about you make easy money with Zango, it should save you time


Made, not make, and it wasn't that easy. Selling traffic is a lot easier.

AdPatron 12-17-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15210079)
I keep all newbies myself, send them to a platform i host and learn them how to generate some sites and get organic traffic, the best newbie i have makes 3K a month on cam projects and the smallest makes 40$ a month and is already happy.

I love newbies, they are the foundation of each webmaster, unless you feel yourself to good for them...

Lack of time, lack of time.

BlueDude 12-17-2008 03:06 PM

Just refer them to the Q and A section of GFY.

B2BwithJoeD 12-17-2008 03:07 PM

Europeans Billing Europe!
 
Yep, read, read, read...
Experiment, experiment, experiment...
Start going to shows...

Get buried in the archives at Klixxx, Cozy Frog, YNOT...

2012 12-17-2008 03:08 PM

tell them you sold all your porn sites and know nothing

itto 12-17-2008 03:22 PM

build a simple opt-in squeeze page.. offer a short report 'bout "how teh industry works" for free - then send follow-up mails with some additional tips, then sell 'em a "how to make money with blogs" ebook for like $47 and then upsell to a 12 month "coaching seminar" (prewritten) for like $127/Month.

AdPatron 12-17-2008 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by itto (Post 15210225)
build a simple opt-in squeeze page.. offer a short report 'bout "how teh industry works" for free - then send follow-up mails with some additional tips, then sell 'em a "how to make money with blogs" ebook for like $47 and then upsell to a 12 month "coaching seminar" (prewritten) for like $127/Month.

I like the idea of selling them an ebook. It helps them, I make money from it's sale and from all the programs I'll refer them to :-)

itto 12-17-2008 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 15210230)
I like the idea of selling them an ebook. It helps them, I make money from it's sale and from all the programs I'll refer them to :-)

doesn't even have to be an ebook - could aswell be a member's area with all the info PLUS a private forum where all the newbies can get together and discuss their strategies.

LeRoy 12-17-2008 03:37 PM

Thats a no brainer :)

Set them up with some packages.. Design Package , Marketing Package and charge money for that service.

AdPatron 12-17-2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by itto (Post 15210257)
doesn't even have to be an ebook - could aswell be a member's area with all the info PLUS a private forum where all the newbies can get together and discuss their strategies.

Well, the forum I already have... that's actually where they find me and hound me with PMs asking how to get started.

AdPatron 12-17-2008 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by D2222 (Post 15210296)
Thats a no brainer :)

Set them up with some packages.. Design Package , Marketing Package and charge money for that service.

Would it be best to sell them one thing up front and then other stuff as they want it?

HorseShit 12-17-2008 04:26 PM

tell them the truth

u-Bob 12-17-2008 04:53 PM

"Mining the Miners".... :)

AngusAl 12-17-2008 04:55 PM

Send them here :)
http://stats.pornopushers.com/referr...p?refcode=4402

VicD 12-17-2008 05:07 PM

Give them my ICQ, i talk to them how to get started :)

AdPatron 12-17-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15210469)
tell them the truth

What would the lie be?

AdPatron 12-17-2008 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 15210572)
"Mining the Miners".... :)

The soon to be miners. Someone has to sell them their shovels ;-)

thehornydawg 12-17-2008 05:19 PM

Could always sell yourself as a "Porn Consultant" - charge them an hourly rate and bill them for your time. Will weed out the posers.

This guy helped me tremendously - his name is James. I bought his book in 2006. He is a straight up good guy. Maybe you can work a deal with him?

http://www.producerslounge.com

AdPatron 12-17-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by thehornydawg (Post 15210663)
Could always sell yourself as a "Porn Consultant" - charge them an hourly rate and bill them for your time. Will weed out the posers.

This guy helped me tremendously - his name is James. I bought his book in 2006. He is a straight up good guy. Maybe you can work a deal with him?

http://www.producerslounge.com

Ah, thanks.

thehornydawg 12-17-2008 05:28 PM

No problem - I sent him a note.

itto 12-17-2008 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 15210415)
Would it be best to sell them one thing up front and then other stuff as they want it?

create a sales funnel for this:
1) free offer
2) $27 "how to" marketing info
3) $57 design service
4) $87 promotion services
5) all-in-one solution

..or something like that. fact is: people who bought one offer and are satisfied with that, will most likely buy the next offer, too.

Supz 12-17-2008 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hominid4 (Post 15209776)
Tell them to learn how we did... read, read, read; then dig in getting your hands dirty. Fuck newbies expecting to have their hands held.

'How we did' , you registered here last month?

AdPatron 12-17-2008 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itto (Post 15210698)
create a sales funnel for this:
1) free offer
2) $27 "how to" marketing info
3) $57 design service
4) $87 promotion services
5) all-in-one solution

..or something like that. fact is: people who bought one offer and are satisfied with that, will most likely buy the next offer, too.

Ya read my mind!

Babaganoosh 12-17-2008 09:22 PM

Sell them scripts, site templates and get them to click your ref codes.

mmcfadden 12-17-2008 09:23 PM

maybe some money in newbies???

Babaganoosh 12-17-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15209403)
Im currently developing an ebook for newbies, let me know if you might want to buy it

This is your site: http://www.modelscan.org/

What could you possibly teach newbies? Aren't you the same person who couldn't figure out bbcode the other day?

beerptrol 12-17-2008 10:30 PM

Create an infomercial like you see late night on TV lol. For 3 payments of 29.95 you too can learn how to become a post and contest whore.

uno 12-18-2008 01:12 AM

Write out a basic text entailing a lot of the shit and costs that are involved. Include all your ref codes. If any of them follow through with it, they have a small chance of actually continuing.

If they do the initial work they may be worth the effort to nurture. If nothing else,hire them to do grunt work, but not enough to learn how to do anything completely themselves.

LeRoy 12-18-2008 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 15210415)
Would it be best to sell them one thing up front and then other stuff as they want it?

Yah . Thats why I push the Design package for a good price up front.

Then the marketing package is an easier sell and the money is great for long term relationships. The steady stream of income is nice too :)


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