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Azoy? 01-06-2009 09:20 PM

Children of Hamas
 
You can say a lot but I will let the YouTube video say it all for everyone who still think Hamas is so innocent.
The link for the YouTube video is https://youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8

Libertine 01-06-2009 09:24 PM

Eh... nobody thinks Hamas is innocent, except for maybe Hamas itself. And I suspect that even they know they're not.

Darkland 01-06-2009 09:32 PM

There seem to be a lot of hamas sympathizers on this board... :2 cents:

spacedog 01-06-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15291396)
There seem to be a lot of hamas sympathizers on this board... :2 cents:

Naturally.. they supported Obama too. You find this shocking?

Libertine 01-06-2009 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15291396)
There seem to be a lot of hamas sympathizers on this board... :2 cents:

You fucking imbecile.

The fact that people are opposed to Israel's current tactics because of the many civilian casualties they inflict does not make them Hamas sympathizers.

Azoy? 01-06-2009 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 15291491)
You fucking imbecile.

The fact that people are opposed to Israel's current tactics because of the many civilian casualties they inflict does not make them Hamas sympathizers.

Just to be clear, Israel's current tactics are a fight for survival.
I don't hear anyone complaining about the losses in Iraq or Afghanistan caused by multi nationals military units from around the world who are there because of terrorism.
Terrorism knows only one thing to be held tight and to be dealt with in a strong hand. It is this that works and it is this that will abolish terrorism from around the world and it is this that Israel is doing to protect it's own citizens.

AtlantisCash 01-06-2009 11:02 PM

Hamas is innocent or not, it doesn't change the fact that innocent civilians are died, wounded and lived within fears of war in This retarded fighting.

Ace_luffy 01-06-2009 11:13 PM

i already now that HAMAS using GAZA ppl as human shield...

and i agree on what israel is doing , why ? because it's pointless doing negotiations with HAMAS which always insulting israel as a coward....

and right now some HAMAS supportest doing some MUsLIm propaganda in every Muslim TV Country(including in SE ASIA and Europe) like Israel killing civilians.... and announcing for JIHAD!!!

ExLust 01-06-2009 11:24 PM

Frustrating to think how those kids raise by killers.

pornask 01-06-2009 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 15291543)
Just to be clear, Israel's current tactics are a fight for survival.

Gives this poor fag his meds back :2 cents:

d-null 01-06-2009 11:50 PM

would be an interesting band name, but Children of Bodom is better:


Darkland 01-06-2009 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 15291491)
You fucking imbecile.

The fact that people are opposed to Israel's current tactics because of the many civilian casualties they inflict does not make them Hamas sympathizers.

Struck a nerve did I? It is no wonder the world is where it is, people can not even debate or speak without someone needing to be uncivilized. But if you want to go, lets do it.

If you are so fucking smart, you tell me what it is called. Maybe it is by proxy but I can tell you one fucking thing, letting a group like Hamas exist because they surround themselves with innocents is NOT a solution. What is your brillant plan, fucking genius?

Other countries, including yours, has done far worse than this in getting what it wants or in retaliation. If the mother fuckers can't co exist then who gives a fuck if they kill each other off. The world would a lot better off without their idiotic, extreme zionist, violent beliefs.

I hope that someday we all outgrow this tired religious dogma that has been allowed to plague our planet. It is the most destructive ideal ever created.

So I guess your dumb fucking solution would be just to ignore it and hope it fucking goes away. Is that it? We should just let the shit spread right? Let them know we won't do anything as long as the hide behind shields of innocence. Talk about fucking niave.

Libertine 01-07-2009 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15291807)
Struck a nerve did I? It is no wonder the world is where it is, people can not even debate or speak without someone needing to be uncivilized. But if you want to go, lets do it.

Actually, you did strike a nerve. The nerve that is getting severely pissed off by the fucking morons that call someone a Hamas sympathizer or even an antisemite the moment someone disagrees with something Israel does.

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15291807)
If you are so fucking smart, you tell me what it is called. Maybe it is by proxy but I can tell you one fucking thing, letting a group like Hamas exist because they surround themselves with innocents is NOT a solution. What is your brillant plan, fucking genius?

My brilliant plan would be for Israel to offer the Palestinians a (painful) compromise, and give back a decent portion of the land that has been taken over the past few decades.

Hamas still won't be happy, but having a viable country would likely win enough Palestinian minds for radical influence to fall back a decent bit.

Because, oddly enough, having people live in an overpopulated, impoverished ghetto does not actually dissuade them from joining terrorist organizations.

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15291807)
Other countries, including yours, has done far worse than this in getting what it wants or in retaliation. If the mother fuckers can't co exist then who gives a fuck if they kill each other off. The world would a lot better off without their idiotic, extreme zionist, violent beliefs.

What other countries have done bears no relation whatsoever to whether what Israel is doing is right or not. And I don't give a fuck if Hamas and the extreme zionists kill each other off. In fact, I would welcome it.

My problem is with the thousands of innocent people that have died because of this ridiculous conflict over the past decades.

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15291807)
I hope that someday we all outgrow this tired religious dogma that has been allowed to plague our planet. It is the most destructive ideal ever created.

People are idiots, unfortunately. Therefore, they won't outgrow their ridiculous beliefs and will continue to murder others in the name of their invented all-mighty sorcerers of choice.

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15291807)
So I guess your dumb fucking solution would be just to ignore it and hope it fucking goes away. Is that it? We should just let the shit spread right? Let them know we won't do anything as long as the hide behind shields of innocence. Talk about fucking niave.

If a bankrobber takes the people in a bank hostage, do the police just mow down everyone inside with machine guns? No. The situation is a similar one.

As for the solution - see above.

Personally, I think the international community should speed up such a solution by making it clear to both parties that if they don't reach a compromise in the next 12 months, they'll be cut off from all international trade and aid, and every single one of the leaders on either side will be executed.

Libertine 01-07-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 15291543)
Just to be clear, Israel's current tactics are a fight for survival.

You have to be fucking kidding me. Go google the maps showing the Palestinian territories declining over the past few decades, and the number of casualties on both sides over the past few decades.

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 15291543)
I don't hear anyone complaining about the losses in Iraq or Afghanistan caused by multi nationals military units from around the world who are there because of terrorism.

If you haven't heard that, you must be deaf. Either that, or your sole source of news is Fox.

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 15291543)
Terrorism knows only one thing to be held tight and to be dealt with in a strong hand.

Yes. Because killing people who are willing to blow themselves up for their cause will definitely dissuade others from taking up the same fight.

Actually fighting the root causes that cause people to become terrorists in the first place (poverty, lack of opportunity, the experience of oppression) is clearly pointless.

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 15291543)
It is this that works and it is this that will abolish terrorism from around the world and it is this that Israel is doing to protect it's own citizens.

I don't think it has actually worked even a single time in the history of mandkind, actually :2 cents:

The Sultan Of Smut 01-07-2009 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Libertine (Post 15291844)
Personally, I think the international community should speed up such a solution by making it clear to both parties that if they don't reach a compromise in the next 12 months, they'll be cut off from all international trade and aid

Yup I totally agree cutting off support for both sides would definitely make a difference though the major problem is with all other countries selling them weapons.

kowalsky 01-07-2009 06:26 AM

Of course Hamas is not innocent. But nothing can justify the massacre that Israel is doing in Gaza.

tranza 01-07-2009 07:09 AM

I don't think they're innocent!

Ace_luffy 01-07-2009 07:41 AM

hamas must considered a terrorist not a militant!!!

kmanrox 01-07-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kowalsky (Post 15292555)
Of course Hamas is not innocent. But nothing can justify the massacre that Israel is doing in Gaza.

hamas is shooting rockets into israel and killing israelis... isreal sat by and took it for a while... now israel is gettin' theirs.. what's so hard to comprehend about that?

if i was 5'6" tall and skinny i wouldnt fuck with a 7'3" K1 champion.... cuz if i did, i know i'd be hurtin... hamas is that skinny little twit, cept they dont have the sense to NOT fuck with the big K1 champ...

now they pay


what about he civilians you may ask. hamas hides behind them, so they die also. that's not israel's fault. you may say, thats propaganda, they dont use human shields (altho there's plenty of video proof of this). in that case, i'd say war is hell and the ppl responsible for palestine (hamas) should have taken this all into consideration when fucking with the big K1 champ.

mizmiz 01-07-2009 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Azoy? (Post 15291367)
You can say a lot but I will let the YouTube video say it all for everyone who still think Hamas is so innocent.
The link for the YouTube video is https://youtube.com/watch?v=eTGbP55HGi8

Wow good training... Hamas Children will grow up to be just like UFC fighters :winkwink:

grumpy 01-07-2009 11:51 AM

you never hear anything here over the child casualties in IRAK made by the USA


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