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Grapesoda 01-13-2009 09:04 AM

a question for 'english' english speakers
 
what part of england is the dialect from that pronounces 'th' as 'f'? as in beth being pronounced as beff

MrMaxwell 01-13-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15320832)
what part of england is the dialect from that pronounces 'th' as 'f'? as in beth being pronounced as beff


I knew that those god damned bastards came from SOMEWHERE!
God damn it!
I can't stand assholes who say FF for TH!
Except for BILL FILLMAFF.
http://billfillmaff.com/

Grapesoda 01-13-2009 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMaxwell (Post 15320931)
I knew that those god damned bastards came from SOMEWHERE!
God damn it!
I can't stand assholes who say FF for TH!
Except for BILL FILLMAFF.
http://billfillmaff.com/

the 'southern amercan' dialect is also from england although it is no longer in use there.

Si 01-13-2009 09:40 AM

americans don't know how to speak english!
ant-i, sem-i, color = colour, the nutella advert the woman says newtella its fucking made from nuts! not newts! hence NUT ella. basil and oregano should be pronounced Bazil not bay-sil and origano not fucking orEg a no. tomato pronounced is tom a to not fucking tomay to wtf! learn to speak english!

Walter Gropius 01-13-2009 10:09 AM

Erm... I think you'll find it's common people, rather than people from any particular region lol

ContentSHOOTER 01-13-2009 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15321079)
americans don't know how to speak english!
ant-i, sem-i, color = colour, the nutella advert the woman says newtella its fucking made from nuts! not newts! hence NUT ella. basil and oregano should be pronounced Bazil not bay-sil and origano not fucking orEg a no. tomato pronounced is tom a to not fucking tomay to wtf! learn to speak english!

They prolly won't the point of you're post:2 cents:

Grapesoda 01-13-2009 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by waltergropius (Post 15321282)
Erm... I think you'll find it's common people, rather than people from any particular region lol

I've heard it used by more than one person on BBC shows... I'm thinking it's a dialect not a speech impediment

marcop 01-13-2009 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15320832)
what part of england is the dialect from that pronounces 'th' as 'f'? as in beth being pronounced as beff

London. Brian, as you know, I was born and grew up in London, and there were a lot of kids in my primary school that pronounced "th" as "f".

I don't know if any other English regional accents have the same substitution.

halfpint 01-13-2009 11:12 AM

Its known as a Cockney accent or London is where it comes from :thumbsup

Darkland 01-13-2009 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15321079)
americans don't know how to speak english!
ant-i, sem-i, color = colour, the nutella advert the woman says newtella its fucking made from nuts! not newts! hence NUT ella. basil and oregano should be pronounced Bazil not bay-sil and origano not fucking orEg a no. tomato pronounced is tom a to not fucking tomay to wtf! learn to speak english!

FYI... Oregano IS pronounced that way: [uh-reg-uh-noh]
and tomato is acceptable in both pronunciations, there IS no right or wrong.

Marshal 01-13-2009 11:21 AM

this is the explanation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney

Grapesoda 01-13-2009 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by marcop (Post 15321580)
London. Brian, as you know, I was born and grew up in London, and there were a lot of kids in my primary school that pronounced "th" as "f".

I don't know if any other English regional accents have the same substitution.

thanks, crap I should have just called you :)

Evil Chris 01-13-2009 11:30 AM

Newfoundland. :)

Walter Gropius 01-13-2009 12:35 PM

I was born and grew up in London also and I've been living up north for nigh on 10 years now. A lot of cockneys might do it but that doesn't mean it's regional - plenty of people from other parts of the country do it, trust me!

Calico Jack 01-13-2009 02:28 PM

There's plenty of Aussies who speak like that too. It's just that no one (particularly their parents) have ever bothered to correct them, so it's ingrained and they'll pass it down to their children.
Here, it's essentialy just lazy speech from people who know no better.

Holly 01-13-2009 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15321079)
americans don't know how to speak english!
ant-i, sem-i, color = colour, the nutella advert the woman says newtella its fucking made from nuts! not newts! hence NUT ella. basil and oregano should be pronounced Bazil not bay-sil and origano not fucking orEg a no. tomato pronounced is tom a to not fucking tomay to wtf! learn to speak english!

If I were you, I'd worry about learning to write English, since I can't make out what the fuck you're getting at most of the time.

Twistys Tim 01-13-2009 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15320832)
what part of england is the dialect from that pronounces 'th' as 'f'? as in beth being pronounced as beff

That would be sowff (south) Londan (London) - Known as estuary English.

Here is a typical estuary sentence;

Oy yoo fackin cannt, you bin messin wiv mi fackin bird you fuckin slag! Are facking ave yoo you fackin caant. Cum on then, yoo slag, ave fackin go yoo fackin wanka!!!!!

halfpint 01-13-2009 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15321079)
americans don't know how to speak english!
ant-i, sem-i, color = colour, the nutella advert the woman says newtella its fucking made from nuts! not newts! hence NUT ella. basil and oregano should be pronounced Bazil not bay-sil and origano not fucking orEg a no. tomato pronounced is tom a to not fucking tomay to wtf! learn to speak english!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

are you having a bad day

sperbonzo 01-13-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987 (Post 15321079)
americans don't know how to speak english!
ant-i, sem-i, color = colour, the nutella advert the woman says newtella its fucking made from nuts! not newts! hence NUT ella. basil and oregano should be pronounced Bazil not bay-sil and origano not fucking orEg a no. tomato pronounced is tom a to not fucking tomay to wtf! learn to speak english!

oh stop... As someone that lived in the UK for 4 years I can tell you that there are erroneous pronunciations from both sides of the atlantic

e.g. Schedule in the UK is pronounced "shedule" By that logic School would be "shool"

(I won't even go into some of the incredibly thick and slang-ridden accents that abound in the UK, some of which (Geordies for example), can't be understood by people living less than 50 miles away!)


:2 cents:

d-null 01-13-2009 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mobilefun1987
gibberish gibberish gibberish

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Originally Posted by Holly (Post 15322359)
If I were you, I'd worry about learning to write English, since I can't make out what the fuck you're getting at most of the time.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

Grapesoda 01-13-2009 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 15322412)
That would be sowff (south) Londan (London) - Known as estuary English.

Here is a typical estuary sentence;

Oy yoo fackin cannt, you bin messin wiv mi fackin bird you fuckin slag! Are facking ave yoo you fackin caant. Cum on then, yoo slag, ave fackin go yoo fackin wanka!!!!!

that's it

Grapesoda 01-13-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 15322412)
That would be sowff (south) Londan (London) - Known as estuary English.

Here is a typical estuary sentence;

Oy yoo fackin cannt, you bin messin wiv mi fackin bird you fuckin slag! Are facking ave yoo you fackin caant. Cum on then, yoo slag, ave fackin go yoo fackin wanka!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estuary_English

Grapesoda 01-13-2009 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 15322517)
oh stop... As someone that lived in the UK for 4 years I can tell you that there are erroneous pronunciations from both sides of the atlantic

e.g. Schedule in the UK is pronounced "shedule" By that logic School would be "shool"

(I won't even go into some of the incredibly thick and slang-ridden accents that abound in the UK, some of which (Geordies for example), can't be understood by people living less than 50 miles away!)

:2 cents:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geordie


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