Today I became a software engineer!
 

And it feels great!

Seeing the result of the last 4 years of work is delightful :pimp

What kind of education do you have??

self educated self taught self made,

how does it feel wasting 4 years of your life while you end up working for the man knowing deep inside your heart you fell into the "mold" of society. now sit back boy, pay your taxes and dont ask any questions!

Hehe it feels better than you could ever imagine :thumbsup:thumbsup

How did you become so bitter, did you once enjoy life as well?

The last 4 years of my life has been the greatest so far and I am looking forward to going towards new adventures with my own company :)

your degree says "software engineer"?

congrats

hahahahah
:thumbsup :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Live it up! In 4 years the world is going to end. 2c

"Engineer in Information & Communication Technology" directly translated.

In Danish: "Ingeniør i Information og Kommunikationsteknologi"

But it is software engineering :)

Congrats :) now code me an app

can u code iphone aPPS?

I am better with WIN CE and WIN Mobile I must admit, I have only glanced at the Iphone apps.

Congrats.... have the same degree from some time ago... I imagine it's moved on somewhat and you've embraced the latest technologies and methodologies since I did it though :)

It does help in the real world believe me.

bachelor degree in economics.

not during a recession when business' are more likely to hire based on expierience and take less risks.

enjoy the next 4-5 years!

congrats!

congratulations on earning your degree :)

thanks and here you go:
C#

Thanks and thanks for the last couple of years of great server hosting :thumbsup:thumbsup

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Ellers fin side synes jeg :)

Congratulations man :thumbsup

most people i know that are either senior software engineers, network admins, and 90% of them are high school dropouts, and yet they work for fortune 500 companies.

hey congrats man!

You could stay in school another 1 or 2 years to get to C++ level :winkwink:

Pretty much self-everything.
Congrats on your achievement! :thumbsup

Hehe only two out of the whole class graduating this month is without a job and one of them is going traveling.
I think everyone in Denmark with a IT engineering degree can get a job. There's still around 50k free IT related jobs in Denmark.

In Canada it might be a whole different story, can't say anything about that.

I see the same tendency for network admins but not for software engineers in Denmark. I think it's under 1% in the big companies in Denmark (Systematic, Terma, National Bank, Saxo Bank, Mærsk, Vestas Wind Systems) that doesn't have a 5 year plus education.
Google and Sun is another story, I am aware of that, but that's like hitting the jackpot. They hire extremely talented people, regardless of education, and can't say I am Sun nor Google potential.

Hehe we started out learning C and C++ but I must admit I like managed code as C# and VB.NET better :)
I used C and C++ a lot of some embedded Robot control projects.

Grats man!!! nice to have it on paper

formal education is over rated.

i don't have a college degree and i can code circles around 99.9% of people who do ;)

when negotiating a salary or job, formal education is king

There's multiple ways to achieve most things :)

If you have some strong references, your way can be faster depending on your ability to sell yourself. Otherwise you are just a littlebit fucked if you want a job. Without strong references or an education -> no callback -> no chance to present yourself and your skills. Even if you do get a callback you will have a hard time convincing them you are the man for the job since you have nothing to show.

Obviously I like my way better, otherwise I would have chosen differently.

I have been a software engineer for all most 20 years (Well my degree says B.Sc, Comp.Sci) and its the worst market carrier path to get into if you are in US. Just read the job board www.dice.com.

I am doing well because I moved into running my own software company and hope you do that at some point in your carrier.

no, actually it's not. :)

that's why you need to write a good resume, know how to sell yourself, and bring examples of your source code.

I can assure you he has plenty of experience and some very good references. He would have done just fine without the degree, but he will also do much better with it.

Congrats polle54 :thumbsup

software engineer!=programmer

in 90% of the jobs software engineers just happen to perform jobs of a programmer...
but it's like comparing a construction worker and a civil engineer, they both work kinda in the same field, but they are nowhere close to the same... :2 cents:

here in Denmark it is..

You're correct in general...I was getting a masters in Process oriented software engineering and what we did was formulate the requirements for the software and develop the logic and "architecture" of the program. We weren't even trained in programming except how to know how to read it....

http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos267.htm

"Computer software engineers apply the principles of computer science and mathematical analysis to the design, development, testing, and evaluation of the software and systems that make computers work. The tasks performed by these workers evolve quickly, reflecting new areas of specialization or changes in technology, as well as the preferences and practices of employers.

Software engineers can be involved in the design and development of many types of software, including computer games, word processing and business applications, operating systems and network distribution, and compilers, which convert programs to machine language for execution on a computer.

Computer software engineers begin by analyzing users? needs, and then design, test, and develop software to meet those needs. During this process they create the detailed sets of instructions, called algorithms, that tell the computer what to do. They also may be responsible for converting these instructions into a computer language, a process called programming or coding, but this usually is the responsibility of computer programmers. (A separate section on computer programmers appears elsewhere in the Handbook.) Computer software engineers must be experts in operating systems and middleware to ensure that the underlying systems will work properly."

that sounds like a programmer to me. that's what i have done for years and i have always just called it coding.

A programmer to a TRUE Software Engineer is like a Carpenter to an Architect....

Congrats on earning your degree

well i guess i should have paid for that schooling so i knew the technical terms. :1orglaugh

in my opinion if you call yourself a programmer and aren't involved in the entire development life cycle of the software you're useless. fucking sharepoint can generate code.

conversely, if you're a software engineer and you can't program, i would also consider you useless.

i guess i just always assumed since working for myself that other other places operated the same way i do. there is a problem and software needs designed, so you sit down and figure out the scope of the project then make it happen and test it.

If programmer is the same as software engineer, why is there a separate section for it?
http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos110.htm

"Computer programmers write, test, and maintain the detailed instructions, called programs, that computers follow to perform their functions."
vs
"Computer software engineers apply the principles of computer science and mathematical analysis to the design, development, testing, and evaluation of the software and systems that make computers work"


Salary:
"Median annual earnings of wage-and-salary computer programmers were $65,510 in May 2006"
vs
"In May 2006, median annual earnings of wage-and-salary computer systems software engineers were $85,370."

I already tried to tell him.

yeah and i already replied with my explanation.

Congrats on your degree. Job well done.

Congrats.

Ignore the negative responses and good luck in your endeavors.

This is GFY, after all, so you have to expect some retarded arguments around your accomplishment. This being GFY, "accomplishment" is pretty much determined by post count. So, well... yea. I'd take college and its costs over post count any day.

yeah but it was a stupid explanation based on absolutely no knowledge on your part and some ideas that you have in your head about how something should be run, when you've never run it or learned about running it..

If someone said that if a carpenter can't design a house, he's useless, he'd be laughed outta here...It's the same kind of bullshit you're saying now.

Congrats !

congrats man fuck the haters

Congrats, always a nice feeling to achieve something you worked hard for, whatever the field :thumbsup

no, that's like saying that if a carpenter couldn't lay the joists, rafters, supports for the floors, cut out the spaces for electrical wiring in the studs, and be able to point and tell me where the insulation and the shingles go he would be useless.

your analogy is erroneous.

Albeit I'm referencing your comment WAY after the thread's taken off, and you've posted many times already - why did you post this? Arrogance is cool and all, but really. Why?

Congrats on your educational achievement.