Assuming Obama wins a 2nd term, where do you think the US will be in 8 years?
 

And moreover, the world.

What do you see Obama's effect being on:

Wars
Opinion of rest of the world about the US


And on the US itself:

Where do you see the US in 8 years economy-wise, health care, adult online business, etc?


Let's see who here has their heads in the clouds and who is grounded in at least some semblance of reality.

The world ends in 2012 so it doesnt matter.

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the federal government will be so huge that America will cease to be the same country and the constitution will be meaningless....




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Assuming it doesn't...

well he's already halted Gitmo trials until May and plans to shut it down in 1 year.... its a start.

http://www.clevelandleader.com/files/splitus.JPG
http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/8366

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I'm very confident about the new president after our mutual meeting last monday:

http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/882941-thanks-barack-obama-hanging-monday-pic.html

Quick hit here.

We will not be fighting any wars unless we are attacked by another nation-state. Terrorism will be treated as it should be, a law enforcement problem, but using the tools at the military's disposal to help law enforcement do it's job.

Our standing in the world will be much improved.
There are and still will be alot of bad actors in the world and it's not like I think we'll be holding hands with the Iranians singing kumbaya.....but we'll find a way to get along and keep our citizens safe.

Economically we'll come full circle, and the business cycle should be a in a boom. Unfortunately we'll have quite a massive debt to pay off by then, and hopefully we will make the right choices in the good times to pay off the debt we ran up in the bad times....instead of doing what Dubya did and squander a massive surplus on some reckless ideas.

Health care will be better. Maybe not 100% universal like Canada, but anyone who wants insurance will be able to buy it. That will be a great start.

Adult online business I can't say....if you go back 8 years you'd have never gotten it right about where we are today. Changes in technology will determine where we end up I think.

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begging to have the Republicans back :1orglaugh

He'll fuck everyone in the ass. 4 years is long enough for him to even fuck up Canada completely. I just don't know if wackos who screamed "yes we can" will get it or will continue chanting their "change" on and on even after they've had their anal warts ripped with Obama's fist.

12-21-2012 to be exact, Or at least as far as the Mayans predicted it.

i think it will still be between the atalantic and pacific oceans in the world

America will be lifted up....literally.

The entire country will be raised and placed into a floating space station in orbit around the Earth, safe from all of our enemies.

Do tell. How exactly do you see him fucking up Canada?

Personally I'm rather hoping his time in office has a positive influence on raising the worth of the USD back up to at least some of the respectable levels it once held (such as just before Bush's war started).

Canada wasn't "fucked" back in 2003 when the USD = $1.40+ CAD, I don't see us being fucked if it goes close to that again.

Yeah like they did such a great job. lol

I think he is going to do a great job. He already is changing the rules on lobbyists and he had been in for one day.

Please.. This country is tired of the petty bickering that has gone on far too long and the shit for brains politicians that have run this country into the ground. You would think with the Republicans getting hit so hard in the last two elections (1st being 2 years ago) that they would have come to their senses to realize this country is tired of their constant hate and BS.

Nope.. seems like they just don't get it.

As fror 8 years from now.. who the hell knows.. Obama has startd off on the right track with the lobbyist stuff, but he needs to go deeper wih it. The same thing needs to happen in both the house and the senate.

Keep the lobbyists away from all levels of federal govt and then we will start seeing some real change.

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?I don?t give a goddamn,? Bush retorted. ?I?m the President and the Commander-in-Chief. Do it my way.?

?Mr. President,? one aide in the meeting said. ?There is a valid case that the provisions in this law undermine the Constitution.?

?Stop throwing the Constitution in my face,? Bush screamed back. ?It?s just a goddamned piece of paper!?

http://www.gnn.tv/threads/10799/Bush...e ce_of_paper

Dude, if you have truly studied the constitution and the federalist papers, then in 4 years, lets sit down and talk about the affect this administration will have had, ESPECIALLY on the 9th and 10th amendments. I agree that this presidency has violated the constitution on several fronts, but it's nothing compared to the damage that will be done this time around IMHO.... and nobody is going to report on it. The news will be greeted with cheers all around... You watch.

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I guess you haven't heard of the NAU? Stephen Harper is part of the same gang. You guys are under your own little dictatorship right now. The people that wanted to toss him out know what he has in store. And you'll begin to hear about it the 27th when he announces his "budget" which is why he and the Queen were so eager to suspend Parliament. Harper is a part of the future plans. As was Obama. Our election was nothing but a show put on to make everyone think he was the "people's choice." When are people going to get it? We ALL have the same problem it's the fractional reserve central banking system. The people who control Us via them don't want to give up the power they have so they are going to sink us further and further into debt paying off the BS derivative market.

Are you really this stupid? Did it happen under clinton or any other dem? Nope... Not gonna happen. You're just bitter. Grow up.

Adding 4 million new government employees to the payroll doesn't make it bigger?

In the first 4 years we will see more troops in Afghanistan and threatening war with Pakistan.

I see you have a firm grasp of the history of administrations, congress, and the US constitution's separation of powers.


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Whatever you say. I'll bump this thread in four years, if you're still around we'll see whats happened. I'm sure it won't be all roses but I can't imagine anything worse than what has happened the past 8. I've noticed lately hardcore republicans are starting to sound like conspiracy nuts like onwebcam here. Have fun with that.

They didn't actually say the world would end, just that the Platonic Year, which is a 26,000 year long cycle, would end. Kinda like your odometer hitting 100k

inflation is far worse than this :2 cents:

Gerald Celente Predicts Revolution 11/10/08



http://www.trendsresearch.com/

Expert calling it a U.S. depression
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/200...1211231704692/

Another conspiracy nut




Martin Armstrong predicts on/around March 19th 2009 will be a huge turning point in our society.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1036...it-s-just-time

77 page report
http://www.contrahour.com/ItsJustTim...nArmstrong.pdf


You see. I'm paying attention to those who have been right all along. These are the people who you and everyone else should be listening to as well.

I want to see how he plans to attack the pharmaceutical companies with regulations..

If you are not listening to Peter Schiff now, you have your head in the sand or up Obamas ass

8 years from now the US will be somewhere just north of Mexico and a little bit south of Canada

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I know that it was more than just the Mayans, I believe there was a reference to it in the bible and possibly Nostradamus predicted it as well. I saw a show on it a while back but my short term memory is a bitch (reference my nick). ;)

The Sumerians said the same thing which is what all religions (the bible) are based off of. Nostradamus studied ancient history and occult. Like others have said it's the end of an age (Pisces) entering into the age of Aquarius. We are towards the end of the 13 year "Age of Revealing" or "Age of Reckoning" which is a very small fraction of those 26,000 years obviously.

North America

Here is where the schools will be....:winkwink:


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man the sore losers are out in full force tonight. its almost like you are against your own country. Newsflash fellas its get much worse, you will all be out business. So its in your best interests for this guy to succeed.Like it would of been for me if John became president.

Don't get me wrong Tony... I want him to succeed... I just don't want him to grow the federal government beyond all recognition in the process...


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hahaha, :thumbsup:1orglaugh

I voted for Obama. I didn't vote for the same shit different preacher. If you haven't realized how he has changed his stance since he's been elected you living in a dream world.

He can keep on preaching "change" but the fact is he's still doing the same ole shit.

He's just putting icing on the cake. Eat up bitch.

We'll be lucky if the US still exists in 2 more years, nevermind 8.

Depends on which way you swing. Obama is on the side of conquer and divide no matter how he portrays himself. I'm on the side of everyone makes their own choices in life. You don't have to pick sides because your blood is just as red as mine. We all just want to fuckin live our lives. But there are people who want to control our lives and thats the problem.

Sorry divide and conquer. Have had way too much to drink.

Have you ever visited Chicago, or heard anything about the state of politics there (since when like FOREVER)? Since he's from a Senator from Illinois that might give you some idea :1orglaugh

Seriously though. However things turn out, it will have very little to do with the President unless the nukes start flying or something close happens. The President is only there to take more heat or credit than he deserves depending which way the wind blows (except for a very rare few and in very rare historical moments).

I'd say the same thing... hahaha

obama isnt a very good first name, its not even Barack's first name, not sure why anyone would name their kid "obama" though, pretty dumb

US will be in Australia :1orglaugh

The way he talks when on camera he really plays the part of someone who is in complete command of all things government. So you're saying it's all a facade?

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