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Grapesoda 02-04-2009 08:18 AM

do you agree with this statement?
 
?When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,? Cheney said.

StuartD 02-04-2009 08:26 AM

He's comparing apples to oranges.

Contrary to what he'd have you believe, you can be concerned with reading them their rights and want to protect the US at the same time.

Grapesoda 02-04-2009 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15436819)
He's comparing apples to oranges.

Contrary to what he'd have you believe, you can be concerned with reading them their rights and want to protect the US at the same time.

possibly however why should do foreign nationals trying to destroy America have AMERICAN civil rights? these foreign nationals don't even have that level of civil rights in their own countries. they considers us stupid and weak.

voa 02-04-2009 08:50 AM

Hm is little bit strange but its true i guess

stickyfingerz 02-04-2009 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15436939)
possibly however why should do foreign nationals trying to destroy America have AMERICAN civil rights? these foreign nationals don't even have that level of civil rights in their own countries. they considers us stupid and weak.

I agree 100% with that statement. Political correctness is destroying, and will destroy this country. :2 cents::2 cents:

StuartD 02-04-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15436939)
possibly however why should do foreign nationals trying to destroy America have AMERICAN civil rights? these foreign nationals don't even have that level of civil rights in their own countries. they considers us stupid and weak.

AMERICAN civil rights?

That's a great step towards world peace. Kill everyone that doesn't apply to your laws.

I'm not saying to not shoot back at someone trying to shoot you, but you don't have to become terrorists to combat terrorism.

Put it this way, if you walk into a camp of people who want you dead, and they throw up their arms and surrender, do you just wipe them all out because they don't apply to American civil rights?? Or do you take them into custody?

pornguy 02-04-2009 08:53 AM

The trick here is to know who is and is NOT a terrorist. And sadly to really figure that out, you wont be reading them their rights.

JamesK 02-04-2009 08:56 AM

Yep and torturing/killing innocent arabs = more people getting angry thus more terrorists. Same goes for invading countries.

CIVMatt 02-04-2009 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15436785)
?When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,? Cheney said.

100% fucking agree

I've been in the middle east

I've seen these people

And it makes me really sad the I love life tree huggers are winning

2012 02-04-2009 09:05 AM

... as he wipes his ass with the constitution .

When they violate their rights it's not long until they're coming after yours. It's coming one way or another this whole things a joke ... I'm waiting for the comet.

GatorB 02-04-2009 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15436785)
?When we get people who are more concerned about reading the rights to an Al Qaeda terrorist than they are with protecting the United States against people who are absolutely committed to do anything they can to kill Americans, then I worry,? Cheney said.

Cheney is fucktard that needs to do everyone a favor and stand next to an operating microwave oven.

Thomas Jefferson said it was better to let 100 guilty men go free than to jail one innocent man. So using Cheney's logic Jefferson was pro-criminal.

Ben Franklin said it best "those that would sacrifice freedom for security will receive and deserve neither" Ask those alive in 1930's/40's Germany how all that worked out for them.

2012 02-04-2009 09:10 AM

when is the last time that guy gave 2 fucks about Americans anyway ...

*keep drinking the koolaid. I prefer grape myself. I drink it while I wear my tinfoil hat.

GatorB 02-04-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CIVMatt (Post 15436995)
100% fucking agree

I've been in the middle east

I've seen these people

And it makes me really sad the I love life tree huggers are winning

So what you are saying is that you for the government to rape you in the ass for so called security. Please move out of the US. The US is only for REAL Americans. Only those that actualy LOVE America need to stay. You clearly HATE America. In fact your views borders on treason which is punishable by death.

Tom_PM 02-04-2009 09:15 AM

And this is coming from the braintrust who decided "Bin Laden Determined To Attack Within The United States" was a historical document?

Ok.

Grapesoda 02-04-2009 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 15436958)
AMERICAN civil rights?

That's a great step towards world peace. Kill everyone that doesn't apply to your laws.

I'm not saying to not shoot back at someone trying to shoot you, but you don't have to become terrorists to combat terrorism.

Put it this way, if you walk into a camp of people who want you dead, and they throw up their arms and surrender, do you just wipe them all out because they don't apply to American civil rights?? Or do you take them into custody?

I'm not sure why you're over reacting to this...kinda weird really. they take them into custody to gain intelligence... not to give them a great life.

if you don't play by the established 'rules' you will lose... it really is that simple $.02

Grapesoda 02-04-2009 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JamesK (Post 15436969)
Yep and torturing/killing innocent arabs = more people getting angry thus more terrorists. Same goes for invading countries.


the problem in a nut shell is the arabs DO NOT FEAR US. if they did there wouldn't be half the bullshit there is now... the arabs think we are a joke. and you know that's true.

DutchTeenCash 02-04-2009 12:07 PM

like said you wouldnt know whos the bad guy or not

reading rights is something you need to do to anyone imho, if everyone is gonna play own judge were gonna end up in one big mess

no matter where or what

Va2k 02-04-2009 12:14 PM

I'm not reading all the response, I will just tell u how I feel... If you want to harm the USA in anyway then YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE 1 single fucking right!! You should NOT be housed in a jail, You should stop breathing as soon as we find out! *shrugs* Guess thats why I'm in porn and not gov!

tony286 02-04-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15437020)
Cheney is fucktard that needs to do everyone a favor and stand next to an operating microwave oven.

Thomas Jefferson said it was better to let 100 guilty men go free than to jail one innocent man. So using Cheney's logic Jefferson was pro-criminal.

Ben Franklin said it best "those that would sacrifice freedom for security will receive and deserve neither" Ask those alive in 1930's/40's Germany how all that worked out for them.

well said people forget what truly makes this country great.

Twistys Tim 02-04-2009 12:33 PM

It depends on what you are defending, If you are defending democracy & justice -- then it wouldn't make much sense to be undemocratic and unjust when fighting a war. As the moment you become the opposite of what you are defending, then you have lost.

Grapesoda 02-04-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 15438188)
It depends on what you are defending, If you are defending democracy & justice -- then it wouldn't make much sense to be undemocratic and unjust when fighting a war. As the moment you become the opposite of what you are defending, then you have lost.

haven't we already lost some freedom from arab bullshit.... don't believe me... go hop on an airplane.. so you're saying now all are suicide bombers?


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