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Mr Pheer 02-05-2009 04:05 AM

Have your credits/chargebacks gone nuts with AFF?
 
If you send to AFF's percentage program, check your chargebacks and credits for november, december, and january. Post in here if they tripled in december, and then almost doubled again in january.

I've always done 5 figures monthly with AFF, but when chargebacks & credits are now 4 figures monthly, we have a problem.

When chargebacks/credits are more than my member bonus for sending over 14k joins last month, we have a real fucking problem :mad:

SteveHardeman 02-05-2009 05:47 AM

I don't promote dating but it's my understanding that site is full of fake profiles so I would think it's just a matter of time before we hear more stories like this.

Here's a bump for you though.

SomeCreep 02-05-2009 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveHardeman (Post 15441602)
I don't promote dating but it's my understanding that site is full of fake profiles

That's every dating site.

Antonio 02-05-2009 06:00 AM

not for me but I'm not sending nowhere near the traffic you are, only had one month with a few hundred $$ in chargebacks, think it was Nov last year, since then it's been all good

kmanrox 02-05-2009 06:09 AM

nope, but we're 1:9000+ with them so.....

Antonio 02-06-2009 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio (Post 15441623)
not for me but I'm not sending nowhere near the traffic you are, only had one month with a few hundred $$ in chargebacks, think it was Nov last year, since then it's been all good


and as soon as I posted this some juice ones appeared in my stats

PowerCum 02-06-2009 02:01 PM

Yes.

About $105k in sales and near $7k in chargebacks.

That's near 6.5% in chargebacks... not good. But I don't care much for now.

What really pisses me is that their flv player for tube sites doesn't support streaming, so there are more chances that I will change them only for that reason.

react 02-06-2009 04:51 PM

Interesting idea, thx.

I haven't pushed pct traffic to this account in ~18 months which really rules out this fake profile nonsense. And I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be AFF specific.

Here are my #s anyway:

Sep 1.26%
Oct 2.58%
Nov 6.76%
Dec 3.51%
Jan 5.85%

Ozarkz 02-06-2009 04:54 PM

I will never promote dating sites. They are indirectly stealing money from the gullible surfer.

Sosa 02-06-2009 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozarkz (Post 15448858)
I will never promote dating sites. They are indirectly stealing money from the gullible surfer.

lol whatever :thumbsup

Ozarkz 02-06-2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sosa (Post 15448877)
lol whatever :thumbsup

Yup. :thumbsup I make money promoting products that the surfer wants and delivers what they expect.

Slappin Fish 02-06-2009 05:05 PM

Just had a look. Nothing unusual very low percentage, just over 1%.

pocketkangaroo 02-06-2009 05:11 PM

Have you guys signed up for the site lately and tested? Might be worth doing. Maybe they are overcharging or adding on cross sales. I had a sponsor who had their chargebacks go up big time one month and I noticed they started dealing heavily in cross sales.

Despite a weak economy, chargebacks jumping that much is not natural. Something is causing it.

BradM 02-06-2009 05:19 PM

For a side company I run our chargebacks are up 3x since the "economy" is bad. People get more sympathy from visa/mc now and win more too. People are just learning how to get shit for free now and exploiting it. It's nuts.
Lots of others have confided the same with me also.

ChargebackJoe 02-06-2009 05:37 PM

All dating sites get major chargebacks, often months later when surfers smarten up.

HorseShit 02-06-2009 05:50 PM

I don't use AFF

WiredGuy 02-06-2009 06:00 PM

I noticed today in particular I had a lot of chargebacks to both PPS and revshare accounts. Definitely a lot higher than I was expecting. I don't even remember having many CB's on my revshare account but today I noticed a lot for January. It seems like they all hit today or something.
WG

Tjeezers 02-07-2009 08:17 AM

I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

WiredGuy 02-07-2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15451330)
I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

Wow, thats insane.
WG

seeandsee 02-07-2009 01:08 PM

i don't have problems :)

Tjeezers 02-07-2009 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15452599)
Wow, thats insane.
WG

Tell me, it completely crash my good mood for today.

KillerK 02-07-2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 15441327)
If you send to AFF's percentage program, check your chargebacks and credits for november, december, and january. Post in here if they tripled in december, and then almost doubled again in january.

I've always done 5 figures monthly with AFF, but when chargebacks & credits are now 4 figures monthly, we have a problem.

When chargebacks/credits are more than my member bonus for sending over 14k joins last month, we have a real fucking problem :mad:

Wow, well it doesn't surprise me given that the company who runs it, ruined iBill.

Mr Pheer 02-07-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15452631)
Wow, well it doesn't surprise me given that the company who runs it, ruined iBill.

Can you give details on this?

wheat 02-07-2009 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15451330)
I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

That's an absurd amount of money to chargeback, I'd be asking questions about that.

Tjeezers 02-07-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheat (Post 15453548)
That's an absurd amount of money to chargeback, I'd be asking questions about that.

already dropped some off liners. I will wait till Monday

Ethersync 02-07-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15451330)
I got one chargeback of $ 1914.62 Cents slipping in my stats 2 days ago

I am stunned

wtf :helpme

Iron Fist 02-07-2009 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sex2Have (Post 15452619)
Tell me, it completely crash my good mood for today.

For today? Damn, that would have me crashing my good mood for a MONTH! :2 cents:

Tjeezers 02-07-2009 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15453791)
For today? Damn, that would have me crashing my good mood for a MONTH! :2 cents:

That would affect my working mood. I`m used to unexpected dramas regarding my work. Nevertheless, i seen it yesterday 10 minutes before i crawled into my bed laying me down next to my girl, and i asked her to not use my card this week :) she understood

Tjeezers 02-07-2009 09:23 PM

http://www.awms-network.com/nifty.jpg

The blue line down, i hate to see it... nevertheless, financial crisis i think. People spend like a animal and charge back like an angel.

Doctor Dre 02-07-2009 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SomeCreep (Post 15441614)
That's every dating site.

Nah there are legit ones out there.

Ryan St. Germain 02-07-2009 09:54 PM

I joined their site because they have a bdsm lifestyle forum for people looking to model. I set my account to cancel at the end of the billing, and it would suddenly go back to auto renew every time I'd log out. That happened for 3 months straight, until I cancelled the card it was on. No one ever bothered to write me back when I wrote to them about it. I should have charged the whole thing back, but I waited for a response and then forgot about it.

dav3 02-07-2009 10:01 PM

Times must be getting tough for AFF.

Tjeezers 02-07-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 15453953)
Times must be getting tough for AFF.

For more sponsors it is like that. They are no exception

JD 02-08-2009 02:41 AM

maybe now with ppl losing their jobs they're CB'ing multiple months worth of memberships :/ wouldn't surprise me 1 bit tbh


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