cookie stuffing?
 

Do sponsors really care? I see a lot of bad hype over this but what's the big deal?

the new trail mix cookies from Tim Hortons fucking rock

You're repeatedly loading their pages EVERY time your page with the redirect loads. If you gets hundreds of thousands of pageviews per day, then you're loading their page hundreds of thousands of times per day. That's burning a lot of bandwidth and server resources.

If I were a sponsor, I'd care.

True, never thought that may be an issue..

We should all cookiestuff ebay

educate yourself a bit more on cookie stuffing..

I don't know what the sponsors think about it, but see many webmasters cookie stuffing GFY all the time.

whatever...

By all means, please point out the fallacy in my post. I'm an eager student.

Yea, that's what made think about it, saw someone doing it here..

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I think it's pretty fucking shitty to do and one of the reasons I think the newest cookie should always overwright the older one.

Think of it like this.. some guy with a shit ass CJ stuffing cookies on load but never sending direct traffic to a tour. So this guy may be stuffing cookies in tens of thousands of surfers browsers per day not even trying to sell the tour.

Then you have the guy with quality fucking traffic actually selling the paysite with blog posts or quality sites. This guy convinces the surfer to sign up, but Mr shit traffic cookie stuffer beat him to the punch with the cookies stuffing.

Now the surfer that Mr Quality traffic convinced to buy a member shit gets credited to Mr Shit traffic.

Well personally I think that's a bunch of BS and it should be reason enough for the newest cookie to overwrite the older ones. Seems fair to me and I can't see any reason at all not to do it.

you think ppl making millions on cookie stuffing are doing simple shit thats so noticable?

I wasted months reading about this stuff, talking to crazy programmers.. got into a very limited forum.. and I am going to educate you to prove a point?

Do I do any cookie stuffing.. NO

most sites will have the cookie over wrote with a new cookie when the surfer goes to a new affiliates page.

such as, if you (being the surfer) to go mysite.com/gallery1.html and click on the link to somepornsite.com, a cookie will go on your computer with mysite.com's affiliate id. say an hour later you go to myfriendssites.com/gallery87.html and click on a link to go to the SAME sponor - somesponsorsite.com, the cookie will be overwritten with the affiliate id from myfriendssite.com

or, at least affiliate cookie tracking works in most cases, especially with Nats.

some sponsors offer a 30 day cookie, but i believe that is if you send them to the sponsor page with your affiliate id, and they go back to the sponsor site WITHOUT clicking on your referral link, you will still get credit for the sale... i.e. if they bookmark and come back.

i do the same with call tracking numbers on pages so if someone book marks the page, we know what day the originally came in so we can track how long it takes for the conversion process

How am I supposed to know the level of research and knowhow of the OP? He could be using simple methods that would load the merchant's page instead of something more thoughtful like calling the headers alone.

How about I present another reason to not cookie stuff... it can get your account closed, and it can get you into legal hot water.

some spyware cookie stuffing could be big problem, just think about it ;)

Interesting thread, bookmarked for further observation.

haha. did you get it with Green Tea by any chance?

Cookie stuffing steals typein sales from the program, which is basically stealing from any kind of branding or non-affiliate advertising they may have been doing.

are you doing this for post count or something?

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Simpler methods of cookie stuffing will load the merchant's page. As a matter of proof I remember Thurbs making a post about how someone was burning their bandwidth through cookie stuffing, and that affiliates account was terminated.

Case in point: there are individuals out there who are still attempting to use methods such as this. If the OP intends to do so, then the outcome will, more than likely, be the same as in Thurb's post.

In general, my intention of posting was to dissuade the OP from cookie stuffing. But this is GFY, and of course there's always someone who wants to start a pissing contest, flaunt their self-assumed superiority, or just troll for the hell of it.

At any rate, sponsors DO care about cookie stuffing. It's why they disallow it in their Terms of Service. It's why eBay is suing Shawn Hogan from Digital Point. It's why you can only find good information about it in obscure blackhat forums.

LOL you don't know Sands very well do you?

I can tell you reasons not to rob a bank.. not getting caught is the trick..

In fact one of the main guys at this forum works in adult and runs sites with millions of hits a day, I don't know who or which sites thou.. that being said I am guessing he is stealing lots of sales and sponsors don't give a shit.. or are even educated enough to know.

I understand. The difference is, though, that I didn't create a thread on GFY that asks whether or not banks care if I rob them.

But yeah, I can imagine that there are a lot of affiliate programs, especially in adult, that are run by a crew that doesn't have the resources or know-how to spot stats patterns or code that would indicate an affiliate is cooking stuffing.

If you have high traffic sites and want to cookie stuff to increase your income hit me up.

CS'ing is pretty nifty shit but if you're not smart about it you WILL get caught

one touch cookie

if i had a list of reasons why cookie stuffing was wrong... that would probably be last on the list.

first on the list is they are getting credit for sales that really aren't deserved.

i love cookies :)

have you ever made a post with more than 3 words in it?

:1orglaugh

The hype is overblown.

Sponsors don't mind rogue affiliates getting credit for what was going to be a typein sale. They don't care if they fuck with the ratios of legit affiliates either. Those affiliates can just leave the program. No need for them.

lol I just saw you are the idiot who ran that one website.

So no surprise you'd ask a question like this.

most affiliate software picks up on cookie stuffing pretty quickly

ebay is one of the largest that is being hit right now....I have a buddy that is stuffing ebay cookies and making $5k a day right now

and who the fuck are you, piss off little man.. :thumbsup