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Ethersync 02-08-2009 07:29 PM

Once The Stimulus Package Passes Geither Will Ask For Another $1 Trillion+ For Banks!
 
When will this madness end!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...ZdQ&refer=home

Snake Doctor 02-08-2009 08:00 PM

It's ridiculous I agree.

Although to be fair, the $700 billion in TARP funds and the 1 trillion (I didn't read this particular story but I'm guessing it's for the bad bank idea?) are more like loans or asset purchases....and the taxpayer should get back most of their money..if not all of it plus interest.

That's different than outright spending, which the stimulus was.

tical 02-08-2009 08:37 PM

this seems simple.. im sure there is way more to it but

how much $ in bad assets (real estate related) do banks have? wouldn't it just be better if the government just absorbed all of real estate related bad debt (via a loan with some kind of interest) & let the banks get back to business - easing up on the credit crunch?

either way the government would have tangible assets (even though they aren't worth as much on paper as they were when picked up).... but shit if we're throwing trillions of dollars at banks why not fucking own something and require a slice off the top until the banks are paid in full

obviously i dont know the total $ of bad real estate debt but shit... wtf

fatfoo 02-08-2009 09:19 PM

Let's see if President Barack Obama suceeds in pushing the economic stimulus bill through Congress.

Ethersync 02-09-2009 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 15458014)
this seems simple.. im sure there is way more to it but

how much $ in bad assets (real estate related) do banks have? wouldn't it just be better if the government just absorbed all of real estate related bad debt (via a loan with some kind of interest) & let the banks get back to business - easing up on the credit crunch?

either way the government would have tangible assets (even though they aren't worth as much on paper as they were when picked up).... but shit if we're throwing trillions of dollars at banks why not fucking own something and require a slice off the top until the banks are paid in full

obviously i dont know the total $ of bad real estate debt but shit... wtf

1) The problem is more than just bad mortgages.

2) Our government, both Democrats and Republicans, always bails out wall street before Joe and Jane 6 Pack get anything. They take care of their own.

notime 02-09-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 15461081)
1) The problem is more than just bad mortgages.

2) Our government, both Democrats and Republicans, always bails out wall street before Joe and Jane 6 Pack get anything. They take care of their own.

My bank in Holland got bailed-out twice for 30 Billion in total. The day after; they cut 7000 jobs (incl. my account manager) and raised banking costs (creditcard, statement, internet banking, etc.)
And like you say, it makes no difference for the public/consumers (paying in the end for all the shit that's happening).

Vendot 02-09-2009 03:50 PM

I just dont get how this will all be paid back and is the US government printing money or is this coming from the purchase of US debt?

IllTestYourGirls 02-09-2009 03:56 PM

Sorry to burst your bubble it will be over 9 trillion

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Kok&refer=home

I think we could have bought everyone single family's mortgage with the amount they are giving the banks.

Ethersync 02-09-2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vendot (Post 15462221)
I just dont get how this will all be paid back and is the US government printing money or is this coming from the purchase of US debt?

It's mostly being funded through Treasury Bonds right now though some speculate that the Fed may be printing up new money and discreeting using that to buy up the bonds people (e.g. China) are not buying on the open market thus keeping the low rates.

The US will not pay this money back unless there is a huge increase in taxes and/or a large devaluation of the dollar.

If Clinton had not repealed the Glass-Steagall Act we very well may not be in this mess at all......

GregE 02-09-2009 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15462250)
I think we could have bought everyone single family's mortgage with the amount they are giving the banks.

Well, that would make too much sense.

Think about it, that would have likely stimulated economy like nothing else.

HorseShit 02-09-2009 05:02 PM

obama ftw

JD 02-09-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 15462250)
Sorry to burst your bubble it will be over 9 trillion

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...Kok&refer=home

I think we could have bought everyone single family's mortgage with the amount they are giving the banks.

yeah I was talking about this with my wife a few days ago... would have made more sense and actually accomplished something to just pay off everyone's shit. but as we all know... government never makes any damn sense :/

Ethersync 02-09-2009 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 15462680)
yeah I was talking about this with my wife a few days ago... would have made more sense and actually accomplished something to just pay off everyone's shit. but as we all know... government never makes any damn sense :/

In situations like this what they do may make sense if you consider their motives may be different than what you think they are.

IllTestYourGirls 02-09-2009 06:52 PM

And people laughed at Ron Paul when he said it could be over 5-10 trillion. :error

We are being robbed at the fastest rate in history. Thank god for Keynesian economics and fiat money.

The 9.7 trillion and 1 trillion and 890 billion money is not included in this chart.

The spike is from Sept 2008 to current. BEFORE the market crashed. They knew it was coming, they were not going to tell you, then they planned on causing panic and stealing your money.

http://www.glennbeck.com/images/news...012609pod3.jpg


If you dont think the dollar and the us is fucked and that it can be saved with 1 trillion dollars you have your head in the sand. :2 cents:


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