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fuzzylogic 02-23-2009 07:34 PM

How to deal with a financially irresponsible parent?
 
hello, i have a problem and am looking for advice on how to best handle this situation.

my mother has trouble paying her bills and just got her car repo'd a second time. i will have to drive her to and from work and pay to retrieve her car. she needs to keep her job.

she had her hips replaced in august. she claims her medical bills is what puts her behind. she has a simple life - just a track phone, no cable, no internet and keeps her heat down.

one issue with her life is she has too much shit everywhere being a hoarder.

she did not contact me both times she was behind on her car. maybe her pride got in the way?

she needs an infusion of capital to regain her footing. if i am going to invest in her failed business model, what should i demand out of the deal? her finance books to manage her money? ownership of all her crap so i can throw it away? if i do take over her finances then she will be become dependent on me for money like a child and thats not something i am looking forward to.

pimplink 02-23-2009 08:31 PM

the best deal in this situations is - NO DEAL

jmcb420 02-23-2009 08:34 PM

Dont expect it back.......

BVF 02-23-2009 08:41 PM

It's your mom man so you gotta do something....If you are going to infuse some cash, I advise that you just pay the people that need to be paid instead of her.

IllTestYourGirls 02-23-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15541117)
It's your mom man so you gotta do something....If you are going to infuse some cash, I advise that you just pay the people that need to be paid instead of her.

best answer and tell her this is the last time

camgirlshide 02-23-2009 08:44 PM

give her small payments so she feels some pain if she blows it on something stupid, but can never get in too much trouble since the next payment is coming up soon.

Sly 02-23-2009 08:46 PM

It sounds like she simply isn't making enough money? Maybe she should consider different living arrangements... a cheaper place or a roommate. It may sound funny to have a roommate at that age but if she can find another single woman around her age it may work out for both of them... a little companionship, cheaper living, and better safety.

Barefootsies 02-23-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 15540896)
How to deal with a financially irresponsible parent?


LiveDose 02-23-2009 08:55 PM

I would do anything for my Mom. Use your best judgement and do what you can to help her get her footing.

fuzzylogic 02-23-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 15541147)

funny! exactly what goes threw my mind! :1orglaugh

TurboAngel 02-23-2009 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 15541117)
It's your mom man so you gotta do something....If you are going to infuse some cash, I advise that you just pay the people that need to be paid instead of her.

You got it, I don't know how much you'll have to put out but she did give you life so you hav to help.



:thumbsup

fuzzylogic 02-23-2009 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 15541135)
It sounds like she simply isn't making enough money? Maybe she should consider different living arrangements... a cheaper place or a roommate. It may sound funny to have a roommate at that age but if she can find another single woman around her age it may work out for both of them... a little companionship, cheaper living, and better safety.

that's an interesting idea i have not thought of.

in order to find out if she is not making enough money i will have to look at her books and go about managing her income/expenses.

i didnt expect to have to take care of a parent so soon in my life.

ExLust 02-23-2009 11:22 PM

Take her to Dr. Phil.

Alky 02-23-2009 11:27 PM

tough to say without knowing her... i definitely wouldnt give her a lump sum of cash though... you need to sit down with her and figure out where her money is going and what she can actually afford.

then figure out a way to lower her costs, and in the mean time help her out with some cash little by little and make sure it's getting spent where it needs to.

kane 02-23-2009 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Alky (Post 15541530)
tough to say without knowing her... i definitely wouldnt give her a lump sum of cash though... you need to sit down with her and figure out where her money is going and what she can actually afford.

then figure out a way to lower her costs, and in the mean time help her out with some cash little by little and make sure it's getting spent where it needs to.

I agree. Sit down with her and do a budget. Find out what she has coming in and what is going out. Then put her on a strict budget. I would even go so far as to take control of her main bills. Tell her she has to give you X amount of dollars from each check and you will pay the bills for her to make sure they are kept up to date. She might have to swallow her pride so be nice about it, just tell her you want to help and this is the easiest way to do it.

If you just give her a bunch of cash it sounds like she will be right back asking for money in a few months.

TidalWave 02-24-2009 12:07 AM

Maybe she can start submitting gals?

Iron Fist 02-24-2009 12:39 AM

I wonder if I can be a financially irresponsible parent so someone can come by and bail me out too...

Me <3 cash infusions!

WWC 02-24-2009 12:47 AM

Take all her money and manage it for her....

d-null 02-24-2009 12:53 AM

don't be too critical of her, some people just are terrible with money and they are like their own worst enemy yet they can't help it, it's your choice to help her or not, but don't make her feel guilty or anything as she probably can't help it as it is deeply a part of her personality

:2 cents:

riddler 02-24-2009 01:00 AM

was she a good mother growing up? if so help her out with no questions asked after all she did give you a good life but if she gave you a shitty child hood then dont help her :)

doridori 02-24-2009 01:07 AM

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d-null 02-24-2009 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by riddler (Post 15541782)
was she a good mother growing up? if so help her out with no questions asked after all she did give you a good life but if she gave you a shitty child hood then dont help her :)

I agree with that, but also to the extent that if it wouldn't hurt me financially, I'd probably help her even if she made mistakes in my childhood too...... help her no matter what if it is no real skin off your nose, you don't have to give her a luxury lifestyle, but making sure she is ok should probably go without saying

edgeprod 02-24-2009 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 15540896)
if i am going to invest in her failed business model, what should i demand out of the deal?

I'd say either have her do a site (provide content), or at least a few blowjobs per week under your desk. Depends on the amount of capital, IMO. :2 cents:

fuzzylogic 02-24-2009 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15541774)
don't be too critical of her, some people just are terrible with money and they are like their own worst enemy yet they can't help it, it's your choice to help her or not, but don't make her feel guilty or anything as she probably can't help it as it is deeply a part of her personality

:2 cents:

ya, she knows she fucked up. she broke down crying, not out of attention but out of stress and shame. not a fun sight to see. it's important to build and move forward, not criticize the past. it's also important not to repeat mistakes.

a lot of people suggest that i manage her bills or income. thanks for the support. that seems to be the obvious next step to get her shit straightened out.

tony286 02-24-2009 04:12 AM

you said she has a simple life - just a track phone, no cable, no internet and keeps her heat down.
so why are you assuming she is financially irresponsible.the person you described above doesnt sound like that.
medical bills can be a bear and if they are putting pressure on her.most dont realize they can say this is what i can pay you fuck off.
you said she claims do you not trust her for some reason?

The Duck 02-24-2009 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 15541147)

:Oh crap:1orglaugh

Janak 02-24-2009 04:35 AM

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nation-x 02-24-2009 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 15540896)
hello, i have a problem and am looking for advice on how to best handle this situation.

my mother has trouble paying her bills and just got her car repo'd a second time. i will have to drive her to and from work and pay to retrieve her car. she needs to keep her job.

she had her hips replaced in august. she claims her medical bills is what puts her behind. she has a simple life - just a track phone, no cable, no internet and keeps her heat down.

one issue with her life is she has too much shit everywhere being a hoarder.

she did not contact me both times she was behind on her car. maybe her pride got in the way?

she needs an infusion of capital to regain her footing. if i am going to invest in her failed business model, what should i demand out of the deal? her finance books to manage her money? ownership of all her crap so i can throw it away? if i do take over her finances then she will be become dependent on me for money like a child and thats not something i am looking forward to.

Boy... your the epitome of a good son aren't you? Posting your mothers dirty laundry on an adult webmaster board and calling her a child. She obviously failed at teaching you basic respect... Parents are real people who make mistakes... the way to handle it isn't to catch an attitude like the one you have and that is for certain. You should be ashamed of yourself for talking about your mother like that... You should help her get her shit together with love and respect... and the best way to do that is to be a model of how to do it. If you have kids I guarantee you will get what you sew.

Wizzo 02-24-2009 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 15541907)
I'd say either have her do a site (provide content), or at least a few blowjobs per week under your desk. Depends on the amount of capital, IMO. :2 cents:

I wonder how fucked in the head you are to even suggest someone have their mom suck their dick under the desk... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

HorseShit 02-24-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 15541147)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

nico-t 02-24-2009 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by edgeprod (Post 15541907)
I'd say either have her do a site (provide content), or at least a few blowjobs per week under your desk. Depends on the amount of capital, IMO. :2 cents:

ok thats just sick dude did you read that he was talking about his mom :Oh crap:1orglaugh

John-ACWM 02-24-2009 07:52 AM

Just help her,karma

Matt 26z 02-24-2009 09:02 AM

You said something about a failed business model, so I presume she runs a business of some sort. Is this a business that you can improve upon and then let her run with it from there?

Fletch XXX 02-24-2009 09:04 AM

no clue, when i read things lik,e this i am glad my mom was and is such a responsible person in her life and tried her best to pass that on to me.

good luck, everyting is gonna work out man.

Snake Doctor 02-24-2009 09:07 AM

If it were me, personally, I would go to an adult industry message board full of pornographers and hangers-on and tell them all kinds of demeaning things about my mother, and ask them what they thought I should do.

HorseShit 02-24-2009 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 15542473)
ok thats just sick dude did you read that he was talking about his mom :Oh crap:1orglaugh

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:disgust

Phoenix 02-24-2009 11:34 AM

buy her a cheap car...if she cant afford the new one..take it back and buy a used one.

Tom_PM 02-24-2009 11:45 AM

My mother was always too proud to EVER outright ask for money help. When I'd visit her, I'd ask my brother who lived with her and he'd go get me the bills. I'd pay them in full so she was not playing the evil "minimum payment" game. I'd give her cash too because lets face it, mom raised 6 kids and did so much of it alone after my father had passed away young. There was nothing I wouldnt have done to help her.

If I had a chance to, I'd spreadsheet everything, break it down by week and even by day and show it to her. Chop up credit cards and prioritise the ones that need to be paid faster because of penalties/interest. Shit like that. Common sense when you have a clear head. Maybe your mother just isn't keeping track closely so it slips her mind and before you know it, it's repo time. Good luck.

Tom_PM 02-24-2009 11:48 AM

OH yeah, hoarding too is a real serious issue. You should take a few big plastic bins and start sorting.. KEEP, UNSURE, TRASH and start one room/box/pile at a time.

Sly 02-24-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 15542762)
You said something about a failed business model, so I presume she runs a business of some sort. Is this a business that you can improve upon and then let her run with it from there?

LOL I'm pretty sure that it was a metaphor referencing the bank and auto industries...

fuzzylogic 02-25-2009 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 15543453)
OH yeah, hoarding too is a real serious issue. You should take a few big plastic bins and start sorting.. KEEP, UNSURE, TRASH and start one room/box/pile at a time.

dude, even attempting to throw away something as silly as her collection of rubber bands is like pulling teeth. she told me she may need a lot of them at some point. she has boxes of empty containers. she has so much stuff there is only a path that leads from the front door to the kitchen sink.

some people have criticized me for using language with shows a lack of respect towards her. i apologize for that. i just get terribly frustrated with her sometimes.

hopefully her car will be back by thursday.

Jakez 02-25-2009 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by nation-x (Post 15542418)
Boy... your the epitome of a good son aren't you? Posting your mothers dirty laundry on an adult webmaster board and calling her a child. She obviously failed at teaching you basic respect... Parents are real people who make mistakes... the way to handle it isn't to catch an attitude like the one you have and that is for certain. You should be ashamed of yourself for talking about your mother like that... You should help her get her shit together with love and respect... and the best way to do that is to be a model of how to do it. If you have kids I guarantee you will get what you sew.

The kind of reply I had in mind. Jesus man, everyone here really is a hardcore asshole. My mother would be living with me if that is what it came to. It is afterall, your mother..

tranza 02-25-2009 10:57 AM

Tha is a hard sittuation...hope everything gets alright..

tony286 02-25-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 15546001)
dude, even attempting to throw away something as silly as her collection of rubber bands is like pulling teeth. she told me she may need a lot of them at some point. she has boxes of empty containers. she has so much stuff there is only a path that leads from the front door to the kitchen sink.

some people have criticized me for using language with shows a lack of respect towards her. i apologize for that. i just get terribly frustrated with her sometimes.

hopefully her car will be back by thursday.

so did you find out why it happened?

candyflip 02-25-2009 11:18 AM

The money is the least of your worries if she's a hoarder.

That's going to need someone to actually come in and help her make life changes.

There are people out there to help, so I'd do some looking in that direction as well.

DarkJedi 02-25-2009 11:20 AM

dont invest any money into her shit.

just give her some cash every month for food/bills

tony286 02-25-2009 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 15546001)
dude, even attempting to throw away something as silly as her collection of rubber bands is like pulling teeth. she told me she may need a lot of them at some point. she has boxes of empty containers. she has so much stuff there is only a path that leads from the front door to the kitchen sink.

some people have criticized me for using language with shows a lack of respect towards her. i apologize for that. i just get terribly frustrated with her sometimes.

hopefully her car will be back by thursday.

Have you thought about getting her some professional help.It sounds like maybe something could be wrong with her.

DarkJedi 02-25-2009 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 15548210)
so did you find out why it happened?

she's fuckign batchit crazy, that's what happened.



my suggestion is to just throw all the shit away while she is gone somewhere.

corbu 02-25-2009 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 15540896)
hello, i have a problem and am looking for advice on how to best handle this situation.

my mother has trouble paying her bills and just got her car repo'd a second time. i will have to drive her to and from work and pay to retrieve her car. she needs to keep her job.

she had her hips replaced in august. she claims her medical bills is what puts her behind. she has a simple life - just a track phone, no cable, no internet and keeps her heat down.

one issue with her life is she has too much shit everywhere being a hoarder.

she did not contact me both times she was behind on her car. maybe her pride got in the way?

she needs an infusion of capital to regain her footing. if i am going to invest in her failed business model, what should i demand out of the deal? her finance books to manage her money? ownership of all her crap so i can throw it away? if i do take over her finances then she will be become dependent on me for money like a child and thats not something i am looking forward to.

pay the people that need to be paid directly instead

carol.prime 02-26-2009 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by corbu (Post 15548552)
pay the people that need to be paid directly instead

right :thumbsup

And just give her allowance monthly. Just give her the exact amount for her basic needs.


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