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sperbonzo 03-20-2009 08:14 AM

This AIG "outrage" is a total smokescreen and bull ****
 
First of all, the Obama administration PUSHED for the bonus payment provision in the bailout package....

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/...ess/index.html

...and congress voted for it, and the president signed it.

NOW they want to claim that somehow the people working for AIG stole the money and slam a completely unfair tax on those people???

Second, Congress recently voted themselves an increase of their expense accounts from 1.2 million dollars a year to 1.6 million dollars a year.... and this in a time of massive recession and the government budget totally in the red. Every penny of that money is "bailout" (tax) money.

They want to talk about corporate greed and excess, and that no one should make more than $500k, but meanwhile they vote THEMSELVES 1.6 million a year expense accounts????


America needs to wake up. Congress is using this class warfare ruse as a way to get people to not look at what congress is doing.

Do you realize that they basically forced Bank of America to take bailout money, and are now asking for a list of B of A's top 200 bonus earners? This is crazy




:2 cents:

Splum 03-20-2009 08:18 AM

These people dont care, they are in bed with Obama

PornMD 03-20-2009 08:22 AM

Reactionary politics - see what people will react to and then react to their reaction. That's where flipflopping comes from in the first place. "I'm for THIS" *BOOOOOO* "Oops, I was mistaken, I'm for THAT."

The AIG execs didn't deserve a bonus or at least that much of it to begin with, but certainly how it was all laid out is shitty on all sides. Unfortunately this administration is simply dawdling around (or should I say Doddling? :P)...making absolutely no beneficial difference so far to anyone except maybe themselves and their rich buddies, with Obama already breaking a shitload of his promises.

sperbonzo 03-20-2009 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 15653232)
with Obama already breaking a shitload of his promises.


Watch this speech... EVERY SINGLE PROMISE THAT HE MAKES IN THE SPEECH HE HAS ALREADY BROKEN....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU





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IllTestYourGirls 03-20-2009 08:51 AM

It is a smoke screen for the 1 TRILLION in bonds the FED bought. We are FUCKED

sperbonzo 03-20-2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by illtestyourgirls (Post 15653357)
it is a smoke screen for the 1 trillion in bonds the fed bought. We are fucked


exactly



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Splum 03-20-2009 09:01 AM

This shit is gonna hit most of you like a train, too bad you refused to listen to the horn.

gornyhuy 03-20-2009 10:47 AM

Ancient Chinese Curse:
May you live in interesting times.

sperbonzo 03-20-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Splum (Post 15653403)
This shit is gonna hit most of you like a train, too bad you refused to listen to the horn.

....and unfortunately, "I told ya so"'s aren't going to fix anything at that point.




:Oh crap

BradM 03-20-2009 02:35 PM

Most of the time I think you're a nut, but in this case you are just correct. There's no real way to argue it - you just are right.

$5 submissions 03-20-2009 02:37 PM

Fuck the AIG fiasco... look at what's around the corner: Hyperinflation.

If anyone cares, the real reason Keynesian economics fell out of favor by the 1980s is because of the nasty inflation/stagflation it causes.

D Ghost 03-20-2009 02:39 PM

At least we have some people who arent easily fooled

sperbonzo 03-20-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BradM (Post 15654935)
Most of the time I think you're a nut,.



ahhhhhhhhwwwwwwwwwww!!!!!!!


That's the NICEST thing you've ever said to me Brad! :angel





:winkwink:




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qxm 03-20-2009 02:52 PM

K here is my POV ... love it or hate it:

1. YES, the AIG bonus thing is stupid compared to all the shit that is going on at the same time such as the fact that we are bailing banks TWICE ...first through bailouts and then AIG pays them their insurance monies .... and those AINT millions those are BILLIONS.... that money is also being used to bail out banks overseas which is even more fucked up.. and those overseas institutions are getting a bigger stake on the monies AIG has to pay....we are fucking bailing out the world....

2. While I don't like the fact that the govt may be wanting to break legal contracts and may want to act as a socialistic govt... we have to remember... these are AIG's "TOP TALENT" we are talking about... yeah the same talent that was paid millions to stay working for AIG but took the money and ran away instead .. .the TALENT that was paid to take down one of the biggest companies in America and almost took down the entire financial system with it..... I mean who the fuck leverages investments at a 30:1 ratio.. looses a shitload of money and expects to get away with a "bonus" ... where is the fucking PERFORMANCE to back that up?

SO ..NO I DON'T like govt fucking around with legal contracts but if you FUCK AMERICAS FINANCIAL SYSTEM in the ass you should NOT be allowed to get away with bonuses....

3. Everyone who is focused on these bonues should act now about it .. punish those bastards AND THEN move on to more important matters such as the management and allocation of the BILLIONS that are at stake....

K gotta go and have something to eat but .. ILL BE BACK!....

pornguy 03-20-2009 02:55 PM

What I see is history about to repeat it's self. more or less. We are about to see another class war. Only this time it wont last as long because there are far far more poor and the " RICH " dont have enough to hire the army's to defend them.

Bill8 03-20-2009 02:57 PM

Funny how the republicans in congress are falling over themselves to get on board the bullshit train.

Anybody who didn't realize long ago that congress and the media are a bunch of whores is an idiot.

Of course it's bullshit - it's the top of the hour main feature on the corporate news.

Fletch XXX 03-20-2009 02:58 PM

cali is about to make way more than 165 mil when they legalize marijuana, these "bonuses" are chilsplay when it comes to how we could really fix the economic issues facing this country. Lets start with the War on Drugs and the money wasted jailing people for pot. As California top cash crop, the amount rhy are making now on taxed pot is making them hungry for more. Bravo.

165 mil? thats nothing compared to the amount wasted every year on marijuana eradication programs.

legalize and tax it.

James124 03-20-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 15653351)
Watch this speech... EVERY SINGLE PROMISE THAT HE MAKES IN THE SPEECH HE HAS ALREADY BROKEN....


https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5t8GdxFYBU
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Obama has lied more now than bush did in his entire presidency.

cykoe6 03-20-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15655013)
cali is about to make way more than 165 mil when they legalize marijuana, these "bonuses" are chilsplay when it comes to how we could really fix the economic issues facing this country. Lets start with the War on Drugs and the money wasted jailing people for pot. As California top cash crop, the amount rhy are making now on taxed pot is making them hungry for more. Bravo.

165 mil? thats nothing compared to the amount wasted every year on marijuana eradication programs.

legalize and tax it.

Very good points. :thumbsup

cykoe6 03-20-2009 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James124 (Post 15655016)
Obama has lied more now than bush did in his entire presidency.

Yea lying seems to be the only thing that Obama does well. :(

onwebcam 03-20-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 15655013)
cali is about to make way more than 165 mil when they legalize marijuana, these "bonuses" are chilsplay when it comes to how we could really fix the economic issues facing this country. Lets start with the War on Drugs and the money wasted jailing people for pot. As California top cash crop, the amount rhy are making now on taxed pot is making them hungry for more. Bravo.

165 mil? thats nothing compared to the amount wasted every year on marijuana eradication programs.

legalize and tax it.

Fuck taxing every goddamn thing under the damn sun. What we need is less people sitting around trying to figure out how to tax every fucking thing. WHo in their right fucking mind thinks it's a good idea to give these dumbasses more money to spend is a good idea? A fucking pack of cigarettes went up $.70 this month here and going up another $1 next month.

shimmy 03-20-2009 04:51 PM

Everyone in congress should make more , they should make a lot more. That way more intelligent people would apply for the job. No good business person could want to be a congressman now because the pay is to low.

DaddyHalbucks 03-21-2009 11:42 AM

While CNN gripes about AIG, Obama is looting the treasury for TRILLIONS.

:(

seeandsee 03-21-2009 11:45 AM

bring em all to the justice

cykoe6 03-21-2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 15657234)
bring em all to the justice

You mean Chris Dodd, Barney Frank and Barack Obama? I agree wholeheartedly. :thumbsup

Penthouse Tony 03-21-2009 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmy (Post 15655362)
Everyone in congress should make more , they should make a lot more. That way more intelligent people would apply for the job. No good business person could want to be a congressman now because the pay is to low.

We shouldn't encourage people to make a career out of it. They longer they stay in DC the more out of touch and corrupt they become. :2 cents:


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