NastyDollars, are they the first to start jacking affiliates link power?
 

Click around through some Nasty Dollars sites, or really, if you want to see the EFFECT that it has, SEARCH some nasty dollar sites at google.

Notice one thing, there isn't a hint of referral codes anywhere. For example, I searched their new site "hot bush" out and the paysite is 1st and 2nd. Cool enough, click the 'more results' . There is little if any affiliate links in there, and you would think, with thousands of us pointing link power at it, that there would be some.

Well, not any more. If you click through to one of those results and view source you can see the meta below, that tells google that ALL variations of that page are just copies, or lesser versions of the 'main page'. In this case, its the actual page of the site (that we can link to) but without any ref codes.

So what this does is tell them that all variations past .../home.htm are to be indexed OR displayed as the main page. Basically locking out any chance of ranking the url for any search term, any weight you push it will only increase the likelihood of the paysites home.htm page turning up.

This isn't about someone taking the 'cumfiesta' search result with their cumfiesta referal code, its about taking 'blowjobs' with their referral code, a search result the paysite most likely would not attain without some proper loving. Real affiliates worked hard to get those results on these sites and they have just had it taken away.

We push as much link juice as we can to some of these sites, and we do it to make both of us money, for them to come underneath and scrape off that link juice and command it to their affiliate free pages fucking pisses me off.

I make a real decent living off of this same method today, I love to rank my referral codes for search terms, and I've got some decent ones. The thought that one of those guys would add something like this to a page to steal my traffic really gets me going.

:Oh crap

funny thing is that you can bitch about it until you're blue in the face and it won't matter.

I realize that, they don't give a fuck about any of us, they are clearly working towards not needing us, so why would they.

Search Engine guys that I know, will not link them up after seeing this. Unfortunately that wont bother them either.

So you make your living from this and you found one company doing something that would impact your earnings.

Did you?

A: Stfu and hope it doesn't become too common.

B: Give this useful development to all paysite owners.

Interesting info. Thanks for sharing that.

C. Make sure people knew not to waste any link juice trying to promote Nasty Dollars through search engine work.

About the living, this is just one avenue, as my grandma always said, 'A good salesmen always has a job", its much the same as working the engines, as long as there is people with money to spend and I can find something to sell them, it don't matter. All that will change is who is buying, and who is supplying.

If anyone sees this anywhere else, please let us know so we know who not to link to.

Maybe you should push your own landing sites where you could change sponsors. You have to protect your business model from such things happening - like closing sponsors (e.x. adultalchemy), a paysite just closed without any notice (nasty had such experience before) and etc, if you really take your business seriously. That way your high position sites still be able to make some money, cause you can swtich them fast, even if sponsor does something bad.

You aren't wrong, but you are assuming that there isn't pages like this already, and there is plenty. My only income is not from referral code listings in go0gle, its just a great way to rake in some nice extra money. And almost like a little game of domination (haha).

I would have to say if your network reach ends at your landing pages, and you aren't working your site/linkpower/traffic past it, well thats not really taking it seriously.

Well i agree with you mate. I see no point why sponsors started using that canonical element, cause if affiliate webmasters compete who can push his own ref code to the top of SERPS, it's a win-win situation for sponsor and wm..

:pimp:pimp

some shady shit

I think all sponsors are doing all kinds of snakey shit right now because of the economy and it's being reflected in my sign ups. I'm not going to defend nasty dollars, but since they are one of the few sponsors with actual exclusive content, imagine what these losers who are reincarnating theirs and everyone else content are doing if nasty dollars is doing what you are saying.

Very interesting. Sounds like you really know your stuff.

that's a darn shame, because Nasty Dollars is one of my preferred sponsors. Come to think about it, this week has been HORRIBLE for me with them, I wonder if that has something to do with it.

No, we are doing it too. And no it has no effect on affiliates. You don't have the right to steal authority and get your ID plugged in for free for organic listings. Don't like it, don't promote people who do this. Nuff said.

I find it easier to just not use someone then have to nofollow the link, I guess I'm kind of old school in that fact that if I have to 'nofollow' a link I probably shouldn't be adding it to begin with.

Any juice you send them is just bouncing up their affiliate free pages in the serps, you really can't afford to just waste it so take it for what you will. But I would either nofollow any links or be very cautious about where you link to with the sites, I did notice that its not showing on alot of the older links, and some pages/links I get back from the affiliate admin. Don't really make me feel any better.

So If I ranked my referral code (to your site) number 1 for penis enlargers you would fuck me and steal my rank? This isnt about taking authority to a ref code for a domain search or like ranking for 'fast size' and being first, its about ranking it for big terms that you won't get 'without our link power'.

If I pushed the link power and ranked my ref code that high its me who did it, NOT you.

Thanks for clarifying where you stand, welcome to my list of do not promote.

LOL! Thanks for the heads up! :1orglaugh

Quoted again cause it needs to be.

Who do you think gave your site/product that authority on the engine?

Of course they would once they locate you. All the big sites hire people to do just that. You either have to stay on top of it or use multiple sponsors or enjoy getting stroked by your affiliate managers. At least this dudes being honest.

You just taught 250 other webmasters how to do this.

Congrats!

Not you. Please keep me on your do not promote list. Thank you.

:2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

Holy Shit! Talk about biting hands that feed you! LOL :1orglaugh

Thanks, go ahead and read the thead now.

He's one of these guys who would term you for ranking first for "fastsize" because you threw so much weight to take first "penis enlarger".

And would feel you ripped him off. Does this really make sense?

You clearly don't like it. Which is why I am on your do not promote list. Do you need to continue talking about it?

Oh that's right, this is not about money - it's about drama.

There's no feeding or biting when jdoze has no traffic.

haha, you of all people calling me a drama queen.

I know for us we seem to have no trouble getting anilos search results. I always suspected it had something to do with the fact that the domains were on the same c class.

Yeah, but the problem is, you know they are going to do that. Wouldn't you? How could you possibly sit there and see them getting all your hits, which you know because you're checking stats too, and not take advantage. Don't forget, you've already paid them.

This is one reason for using rev share instead of pps and also having several different sponsors because if you follow trends they dip and rise on the stats as you come up with new placement. Also blogging helps this a little because they can't really take over your keyword heavy blog unless you slack or are over compensating

Oh weird, I can't find an affiliate account for your Jdoughs. I am looking for an account to term, but there isn't one. So in the 5 years I have been at Fastsize, you have sent me 0 hits and I am supposed to give a FUCK if I am on your "do not promote" list? LOL

PS if I am wrong please let me know where I can find your account to term it - because you're a whiny baby complaining about the company that owns what you are promoting not giving you free sales.

LMK

You guys are missing the point, it isnt about money, it isnt about drama or sales, its about link juice.

Don't need to worry about what I'm doing, I do just fine.

I'll be honest. My bigger problem is I believe sponsors are outright shaving points now and that's a bigger issue I have no proof on. Everything else is just technique, but I do feel your pain and understand where you are coming from as an affiliate

J, check your ICQ for me please. :1orglaugh

Dude, you will get zero link juice from a sponsor. it's all about dollars and sense (cents too) and I'm good with that. link juice is for that social networking bullshit!

Who cares anyways?

You should if you like checks and legitimate sign ups LOL, but how to fix things would be the main question.

And for some fucking reason you thought it was a good fucking idea to post it here so now thousands of other programs can now do the same fucking thing?

i'm just surprised they didn't do this sooner.

You people who moan about this are fucking idiots, not trying to be offensive but stop bitching.

This is not going to decrease the ranking power of your site and this is a completely normal practice in affiliate marketing, any sponsor who doesn't do this is a fool.

Furthermore, why do you care if affiliate links show up in 'more results'? They would never outrank the original page anyway.

Ok then, end the thread.

You sure got your panties in a bunch over this guy. :pimp

I would love to know how much of a traffic/join spike they got by doing this.
WG

The canonical link is read like a 301-redirect by the search engine.
So you, sir, are talking bullshit.

No, he doesn't know what he's talking about. But my point is you have to be more stealth about what you are doing and know what the sponsor is all about.

Capitalism still exists momentarily, that's actually your main problem LOL

Just to play devil's advocate, let's pretend you own a site called SockSuckers.com, and you start an affiliate program. You have had the site for years, and your search engine positioning is very good. In fact, any time someone types in socksucking or sock suckers or sock sucking, you come up number one.

Now you open yourself up to affiliates. A few of your affiliates are now using the same meta-tags and keywords, etc, to also come up super high in the search, so now you are losing revenue from organic searches, where before, you owned the position 100%.

To add insult to injury, a few weeks down the road your affiliate decides to stop promoting you, and switches out your links for SockLovers.com, but leaves all of the same SEO info in place.

Now you are not only fucked over for losing the search engine positioning you already had before the affiliate jumped onboard, but you are actually losing it to a competing site to boot!

I think the knife cuts both ways. I'm not certain who's right on this one...

and people were worried about the webcams.com iframe...

this seems surely like a bigger problem for some affiliates

Jdoughs you just gave the other sponsors an idea that could be used to get more affilates screwed.
I salute you for the info but I think it was not really in the interest of affiliates to give this info on a board like this.
time for a board (secured?) only for affiliates?
sorry for the typo's.
I have a domain if interested

How to do it was posted a week or two ago on this very board, this post was not the first clue in to anyone, its just the first one i've caught doing it to links I was actively pointing too.

The use of this meta tag is common knowledge now, its no secret as some imply by their posts above.