Krawl screwing submitters?
 

Man, I think this is total bunk! WTF? Is this what things are coming to?

http://www.greenguyandjim.com/board/...ad.php?t=51534

...mmm..... u might just be getting in trouble here.... just sayin'

Well, they're not forcing anyone to submit galleries to them. It's their site so basically they can do whatever they want with it.

:2 cents::2 cents:

Man, if you can't even talk about it, then we really are in bad shape. Nazi internet? This is crap!

"Hey, everyone! Please freehost content and preview images for my MGP! I'll give you a tiny little ad right next to my huge ads complete with enticing images that will prevent the surfers from ever clicking your link!"

What a deal!

BTW not being forced to submit but we all had to pay $100 to get "approved."

This has been being phased in for awhile now and my sales have not suffered so perhaps you should consider it isn't as bad as you think?
Also they have already set it up so you get credit for AFF sales if you input your id in krawl which imo they didn't have to do but really is a cool option.

Wasn't talking about taking on Krawl or whoever you want to take on.... I was talking about posting links to other forums.... but if that rule was removed then never mind...

No sane person would agree that this is better. C'mon, you kiss ass.

to be perfectly honest I have made more sales from PH traffic with the new white label thing than I did when it was just my regular galleries. It's not that my galleries suck, but whatever it is as long as I'm making sales.

then again, PH is not my primary source of traffic so it doesn't botther me that much

Point missing mutherfuckers:

What if others follow suit?

This is a joke, you bunch of fucking cowards.

Who will speak for the rights of submitters? This is basically like him getting free content for a tiny ad link. How much do you pay for hosting? C'mon. He wouldn't be doing this if it didn't sway things away from submitters and toward his profit margin.

This is crap. Period. And, period. Hell to the no!

u calling me a kiss ass for pointing out u can't post links to other forums in GFY? .. .wow thats something... :Oh crap ... but seriously just like others have said... if you think they are fucking you over or your sales are down why not just stop subbing to them? .. u think that posting on GFY will make them change their mind? or what is it you are trying to accomplish here?

But if PH is your one and only source of traffic then.. I feel for u....

Not calling you a kiss ass. Just frustrated. Raise awareness? Disuade others from trying this? We're not talking about this enough.

the rights of submitters is right up there with the rights of affiliates...

And then Dansmovies thinks, "this is a great idea," and then the next and then the next . . .

I think it's more of putting trust into regular surfers...

For example, you've been actively using PH for years as a surfer, liked it because there was very minimal bad links with shit programs and virus'. Sure you could report them and they probably got removed quickly, but now the new systems in, and you notice you get the same galleries, just in the trusted PH format, meaning you won't get fucked over... You buy more.

Just an FYI, he's in it for profit, not making sure a surfer gets off... So obviously he's gonna do what makes him more... You would too.

I loved the line in that GG&J thread that he has turned the submitter into a free content host for his links and ads.

He can discriminate against dialers, spyware and pretty much any gallery style he doesn't like. This is over the top. Let me ask you this:

What if I took your gallery, I hotlink the movies, the preview images. I put a tiny little unappealing text link to you sponsor at the bottom of the page just above my huge teasing ad images? Then I submit it to an MGP. Would you be o.k. with that?

It's the same thing, man. You'd be freaking out.

tis the truth

First off, if you can't use the line "I get over 10 guaranteed listings a day at a site that is #3 for porn in google, and gets over 2.4 million visits a day"

to get some free hosting from an affiliate program, then that affiliate program ain't worth your time.

Secondly, how many TGPs still accept free submissions of any kind? How about more than 10 guarenteed listings a day?

The big AFF ad that's "tiny little ad right next to my huge ads complete with enticing images," well that actually bears the AFF code of the submitter that made the gallery, not mine. So, both of those ads pay him.


Furthermore, it's not about what other sites do, if I followed my competition my alexa would be about 10,000 right now, and it's under 500. I don't care what a "gallery submitter" defines himself as..

Simply put, I let you get 2 outbound links, plus a big ass AFF add on pages on my site, 10 times a day. What you pay for host (shit I hope like $4 a mbps, or free), is all up to you dude.

Some submitters kicked and screamed, some are doing killer sales with the new system.

Newer tools coming out[*]Submit in advance - Build your own queue[*]Away Mode - Submits for you while you're at the beach or conference[*]Tag Pages - No CFNM category, no problem, tag pages are coming[*]URL Dump Submission - a long list of URLs that contain our meta tags in the headers would be all you need to submit hundreds of galleries at once.

To those of you sensible people that know how to work an opportunity, enjoy.

tarpy maybe we can change AFF iframe to fling or something?

hey idiot, don't submit if you don't like it. no one is holding a gun to your head.

if you're hurting for your $100, then ask for a refund or do a charge back.

with the hun it's about the only tgp sending serious traffic that's still free... I got over 1000 uniques to my sponsor in a single day from white pages, not too shabby.

I actually want to submit there now, just haven't had time to chase down a pass...

Reading that almost made me wet. :winkwink:

Look forward to those tools going live. :thumbsup

I love krawl traffic.
And yes hopefully these measures will improve their google traffic even more.
Looks like I would be one of the persons profiting from that right?

is this really true?

If you still depend on gallery submissions in 2009, you shouldn't be in business anyway.

So stop crying and get a normal job

:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::2 cents:

stop submitting there, problem solved.

Unbelievable lol.

my conversions have gone up since the change to the simple gallery template, people often want simple not fancy dancy galleries.

simple galleries like banner above thumbs and textlink do better.

So i can't complain.

This motherfucker never even got back to me through emails or ICQ, and after reading your link I'm fucking glad. Fuck these cocksuckers with all their silly ass rules and their shabby fucking skimming angles!

The more people alert people to people screwing people, gradually over time, those motherfuckers will vanish

If Tarpy and Krawl want to add these rules, totally cool with them doing it. I for one, think the overall ratios and sales will go up for the submitter.

If any krawl submitters need Free hosting and/or content to use on krawl. Hit me up and ill get you squared away!

What else are you going to say for now? LOL

Is there a list of pre-approved sponsor hosted domains list already setup inside the Krawl submission admin? Otherwise, do all submitters, who opt to use sponsor provided hosting, have to submit the sponsors domain for approval?

Perhaps a suggestion to get domains approved quicker would be to have an automated review script that verifies the ownership information from whois data, checks a blacklist database, etc? I assume that's basically what is involved in getting a domain approved manually, so perhaps this can be automated and thus the approval process could be made more efficient for all involved?

nothing automated for checking domains yet, but right now there are none pending approval anyhow.

Too much new shit to code to deal with domain auto approval

free tibet!!

I didnt even know people made any money submitting anymore