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strobi 03-31-2009 05:02 AM

The end of domain tasting as of March 31
 
From domainsponsor:

This is a reminder for some of our clients who "taste" domains under the existing rules that allow buyers to return a domain within 5 days of purchase. This rule changes as of midnight, Tuesday, March 31, 2009. All domain names purchased after that time will be considered a straight purchase and can not be returned. Effectively, all domain sales will be final. If anyone is using an automated system, please update your processes to take this change into consideration. If you have any questions about this change please contact your registrar or registrars for more detail.

ICANN's first rule was to not refund the "delete" fee, now domain tasting is gone for good.

What impact will this have on domain names?

* Domain squatting (typos) will implode, as most of the squatters use tasting to fill up the portfolio.

* Aftermarket sales will increase, so Snapnames and Pool will be making serious bank.

* Hundreds of thousands of expired domains will be up for grabs again.

* Google will see a big traffic hit, as domains are a big chunck of their income...

* Generic one word domains will be more valuable, because domain traffic will be harder to get by.


am I wrong on this?

Discuss! :thumbsup

who 03-31-2009 05:03 AM

I think you're overracting

polish_aristocrat 03-31-2009 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 15691305)
I think you're overracting

I think he's just quoting a newsletter from a domain company :upsidedow

strobi 03-31-2009 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 15691305)
I think you're overracting

I don't think so at all... the domain tasting business is so huge it's mind boggling. It's not profitable anymore if you need to shell out 8$ just to "test" a domain for traffic. I suspect the number of domains registered/day will be dropping 90% or more...

strobi 03-31-2009 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 15691333)
I think he's just quoting a newsletter from a domain company :upsidedow

Yes, the first part is a qoute from the newsletter of domainsponsor. But Moniker is also implementing this rule.

BlackCrayon 03-31-2009 05:27 AM

a large part of tasting already died when icann started charging fees for every domain deleted. this is just the nail in the coffin. good riddens.

rowan 03-31-2009 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strobi (Post 15691335)
I don't think so at all... the domain tasting business is so huge it's mind boggling. It's not profitable anymore if you need to shell out 8$ just to "test" a domain for traffic. I suspect the number of domains registered/day will be dropping 90% or more...

I'm currently checking against a list of domains registered in the past year and I'd say your estimate is probably not too far off. At least 70% of the domains on the list do not exist now, even though they were registered <12 months ago, presumably due to (for the majority anyway) tasting.

rowan 03-31-2009 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 15691404)
I'm currently checking against a list of domains registered in the past year and I'd say your estimate is probably not too far off. At least 70% of the domains on the list do not exist now, even though they were registered <12 months ago, presumably due to (for the majority anyway) tasting.

70% is probably a little too enthusiatic... here's some better estimates, based on domains registered in Jan/Feb this year...

found: 1,876,224 (37.5%)
not found: 3,130,368 (62.5%)

It's not the full list but it's still a decent sample... you get the idea...

strobi 03-31-2009 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 15691417)
70% is probably a little too enthusiatic... here's some better estimates, based on domains registered in Jan/Feb this year...

found: 1,876,224 (37.5%)
not found: 3,130,368 (62.5%)

It's not the full list but it's still a decent sample... you get the idea...

Interesting! Always nice to see something backed up with stats.

Voodoo 03-31-2009 05:52 AM

I never did any domain tasting. Is mine retroactive and I can get refunds for some of them?

Kron 03-31-2009 06:13 AM

that sound like good news

fris 03-31-2009 06:15 AM

glad they got rid of it

denny007 03-31-2009 06:18 AM

Hm at the start of this month got via the accredited registrars channel this:
"VeriSign is pleased to extend the Promotional Period for the Deleting Domain Names Registration Promotion through June 30, 2009."
So I think they will extend it

CurrentlySober 03-31-2009 06:22 AM

i just like poo

bloggerz 03-31-2009 06:25 AM

i believe moniker still lets you do this

Iron Fist 03-31-2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 15691370)
a large part of tasting already died when icann started charging fees for every domain deleted. this is just the nail in the coffin. good riddens.

I, for one, am glad to see this gone. :2 cents:

CIVMatt 03-31-2009 06:45 AM

Yeah I don't taste either

strobi 03-31-2009 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bloggerz (Post 15691498)
i believe moniker still lets you do this

No, they do not.

from Moniker: "Per ICANN domain tasting ends Mar 31. All domain deletions after this date will incur the full registration fee."

strobi 03-31-2009 05:20 PM

bazzumppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp

JamesK 03-31-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 15691417)
70% is probably a little too enthusiatic... here's some better estimates, based on domains registered in Jan/Feb this year...

found: 1,876,224 (37.5%)
not found: 3,130,368 (62.5%)

It's not the full list but it's still a decent sample... you get the idea...

Wow... even if a small fraction of that is actually for real "tasting", it's a huge amount.

GAMEFINEST 03-31-2009 06:42 PM

fuckin liars...

kesha1 03-31-2009 06:45 PM

tasting domain for 5 days..., pretty funny :)

V_RocKs 03-31-2009 08:17 PM

I like Merlot...

DaddyHalbucks 03-31-2009 10:17 PM

It's about time ICANN removed their thumbs from their bureaucratic asses and did something about this problem.

Google: "domain kiting."

Some registrars were scamming the system too.

$5 submissions 04-01-2009 12:13 AM

First the slowdown in adsense arbitrage, then the crackdown on tasting... looks like the low hanging fruit are getting inaccessible one by one. Then again, the old saying still applies: for every door that closes, a new window opens.....

XPays 04-01-2009 01:23 AM

i like this

SinisterStudios 04-01-2009 04:52 AM

Finally ICANN did something right, tasting was one of the worst things they ever did. Glad to see it go.

strobi 04-01-2009 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kesha1 (Post 15694729)
tasting domain for 5 days..., pretty funny :)

I know people who make 3 million NET a month tasting domains, all sponsored by google... (registrars,really big players).

don't underestimate the power of registering 100 000 domains doing only 5 uniques/day.

strobi 04-01-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15695030)
I like Merlot...

My favorite winehouse still is Château Margaux...

strobi 04-01-2009 05:39 PM

Oh sorry businnes thread, nevermind ;)


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