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PSSuperstars 03-31-2009 06:47 PM

2 Pitbulls Kill Infant
 
So I was just working and heard the 911 call in the background. Heart breaking.
http://www.khou.com/topstories/stori....8c7edf9b.html

GatorB 03-31-2009 06:49 PM

Yes yes pit bulls are evil. Last dog attack I heard about a chow killed a baby. I couple of years ago a lab puppy killed a baby. I even heard of winnie dogs severely maiming babies.

PSSuperstars 03-31-2009 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15694742)
Yes yes pit bulls are evil. Last dog attack I heard about a chow killed a baby. I couple of years ago a lab puppy killed a baby. I even heard of winnie dogs severely maiming babies.

I'm on the fence about the whole ordeal.. I posted it thinking the 911 video was in the article too, but I see it wasn't... you get an idea of how violent it all was.. it really threw me...

Hubby's had rotties who never hurt anyone.. and we sheltered Pitts for a while...

I guess I'll update the thread when the 911 call is on here.

notoldschool 03-31-2009 06:51 PM

2 seconds until an idiot chimes in with not all pitbulls are bad..blah blah blah..them dogs are shit.

Platinumpimp 03-31-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15694753)
2 seconds until an idiot chimes in with not all pitbulls are bad..blah blah blah..them dogs are shit.

It's in the blood of these dogs. They are fighting dogs. They are agressive. People think they can train them. You cannot control animal agressiveness.

kesha1 03-31-2009 07:00 PM

and 2 infants killed a pitbull ;)

GatorB 03-31-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15694753)
2 seconds until an idiot chimes in with not all pitbulls are bad..blah blah blah..them dogs are shit.

YOU are shit. No they are not all bad. You know I've never been bit by a pit and I've been around a lot of them. I HAVE been bit by a German Shepherd and a chiuaua both times drawing blood. hmmmmmm. Come back and post when you become a grown up, kid

GatorB 03-31-2009 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Platinumpimp (Post 15694777)
It's in the blood of these dogs. They are fighting dogs. They are agressive. People think they can train them. You cannot control animal agressiveness.

bullshit. total ignorance. please comment more and stuff you have no clue about.

notoldschool 03-31-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15694802)
YOU are shit. No they are not all bad. You know I've never been bit by a pit and I've been around a lot of them. I HAVE been bit by a German Shepherd and a chiuaua both times drawing blood. hmmmmmm. Come back and post when you become a grown up, kid

How you come to the conclusion I am child is beyond me, but your post is filled with ignorance. I have not been around many but have been bitten by two. They are shit dogs and mostly owned by poor ignorant people who think they can control a fucking evil shit for an animal.

SBJ 03-31-2009 07:11 PM

that's truly sad :(

PSSuperstars 03-31-2009 07:12 PM

Wow this is two separate instances... of an infant killed.
:(
2 infants dead today :(

You can hear the mom in the 911 call scream, "I killed my son, I did this.."

acctman 03-31-2009 07:13 PM

its the parents/grandmothers fault not the dogs, you dont leave an infant around dogs like that. You dont get mad at bears, lions and tigers (oh my...) for attacking. Its what they do. Yes those type of dogs can be kept as pets but they should come with a warning. Its like having a gun anything can happen and caution should be noted.

saucygirl 03-31-2009 07:15 PM

It's saddening to see that people still keep these inherently vicious dogs in their home. They are bred for brutality but people still feel like they'll make great pets until a child is killed. These people need to get a clue.

seven 03-31-2009 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 15694811)
bullshit. total ignorance. please comment more and stuff you have no clue about.

You should be put to jail just for trying to defend them let alone for owning one of those killers :2 cents:

JaneB 03-31-2009 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by saucygirl (Post 15694848)
It's saddening to see that people still keep these inherently vicious dogs in their home. They are bred for brutality but people still feel like they'll make great pets until a child is killed. These people need to get a clue.


Oh please. Pit Bulls are not all breed for brutality. My neighbors have the sweetest Pit Bull and he is not violent. He got into a fight with my German Shepherd and she kicked his ass. Any dog can be mean if you raise it to be mean. It is not in a dog's blood to be evil. :2 cents:

brassmonkey 03-31-2009 07:47 PM

never let your dogs in your damn house

notoldschool 03-31-2009 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15694908)
Oh please. Pit Bulls are not all breed for brutality. My neighbors have the sweetest Pit Bull and he is not violent. He got into a fight with my German Shepherd and she kicked his ass. Any dog can be mean if you raise it to be mean. It is not in a dog's blood to be evil. :2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh lol :1orglaugh You posting this just proves my point.

JaneB 03-31-2009 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15694955)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh lol :1orglaugh You posting this just proves my point.

Yes it does prove that you are an uninformed idiot. I swear you are in every thread acting like you know everything. Sad thing is you don't know shit. :2 cents::1orglaugh

notoldschool 03-31-2009 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15694964)
Yes it does prove that you are an uninformed idiot. I swear you are in every thread acting like you know everything. Sad thing is you don't know shit. :2 cents::1orglaugh

I know that only a fool thinks they can control a agressive wild animal with a pea brain.

JaneB 03-31-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15694975)
I know that only a fool thinks they can control and agressive wild animal with a pea brain.


I know you need to learn how to spell. Most of your postings are full of words spelled wrong. All dogs can be aggressive. :1orglaugh

FYI Nice editing that you did to your posting after I called you on your spelling. It is still wrong, it should be an.

notoldschool 03-31-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15694977)
I know you need to learn how to spell. Most of your postings are full of words spelled wrong. All dogs can be aggressive. :1orglaugh

FYI Nice editing that you did to your posting after I called you on your spelling. It is still wrong, it should be an.

wow, you should get a job working at spell checker. Its about substance, which you have none. Suck a dick.

JaneB 03-31-2009 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15694990)
wow, you should get a job working at spell checker. Its about substance, which you have none. Suck a dick.

Lack of substance pretty much describes most of your postings. You only post to try and flame the fires. Do you even work in adult? You have no links to anything adult related. :winkwink::1orglaugh

Ron Paul 2012

notoldschool 03-31-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15694991)
Lack of substance pretty much describes most of your postings. You only post to try and flame the fires. Do you even work in adult? You have no links to anything adult related. :winkwink::1orglaugh

Ron Paul 2012

this is why you have to whore you shit on here for backlinks. I have nut hairs with a better alexa rank than yours. In 03 i got more member joins in a day than you will get this entire year. In your niche to. You know nothing.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-31-2009 08:14 PM

All the pitbulls I've ever known have been very friendly well mannered dogs. However, if I had a baby, I would not have a damn pitbull. Use your fucking head.

JaneB 03-31-2009 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15695010)
this is why you have to whore you shit on here for backlinks. I have nut hairs with a better alexa rank than yours. In 03 i got more member joins in a day than you will get this entire year. In your niche to. You know nothing.


Yeah I am sure that is all true. Once again you are all talk and no proof. That guy was right, you are a kid. Nice boxing link by the way and once again a posting full of errors. Now stop trying to take over this thread with your bullshit. You do not know a thing about dogs and that is proven by your postings in here. Go stroke off some place else. This is not your thread. :thumbsup

Kre8t0r 03-31-2009 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by saucygirl (Post 15694848)
It's saddening to see that people still keep these inherently vicious dogs in their home. They are bred for brutality but people still feel like they'll make great pets until a child is killed. These people need to get a clue.

Quote:

Originally Posted by seven (Post 15694877)
You should be put to jail just for trying to defend them let alone for owning one of those killers :2 cents:


You both really need to get a clue before making an ass out of yourself... As do the rest of you anti-pitbull morons! The breed isn't the issue it's the owner and the training the animal gets. Is that SO hard for your brains to process? Do we have to go back to posting the actual stats on dog bites for the 10,000th time??? ANY dog can be made vicious, even a fucking pom for christ sakes! I know way more responsible pitbull owners that have very well mannered dogs than the few you base your whole world on that use the dog as a penis extention. I'll get off my soapbox now as I know no matter how many facts I bombard you with getting it to register in your brain is another matter... :helpme

:disgust:mad: Retards!

FrozenJag 03-31-2009 08:17 PM

Why even fucking make this thread??

Looking for Drama or what?

JaneB 03-31-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15695019)
All the pitbulls I've ever known have been very friendly well mannered dogs. However, if I had a baby, I would not have a damn pitbull. Use your fucking head.

All the ones I have met are very nice as well. As with any breed of dog they can become violent. No dog should be left alone with a small child. It really comes down to the parents not being responsible. :winkwink:

geedub 03-31-2009 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by acctman (Post 15694841)
its the parents/grandmothers fault not the dogs, you dont leave an infant around dogs like that. You dont get mad at bears, lions and tigers (oh my...) for attacking. Its what they do. Yes those type of dogs can be kept as pets but they should come with a warning. Its like having a gun anything can happen and caution should be noted.

that about sums it up right there.

Kre8t0r 03-31-2009 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by notoldschool (Post 15695010)
this is why you have to whore you shit on here for backlinks. I have nut hairs with a better alexa rank than yours. In 03 i got more member joins in a day than you will get this entire year. In your niche to. You know nothing.

Since you seem to be the number one retard in this thread atm I couldn't help noticing something... You must not be much of shit in this industry if you have to use 03 stats to brag about.. Hello, 5 years ago called they all charged back and want their $2 you fucking fool!

I notice you seem to just want to stir up shit no matter what the subject is on here. If you think pissing on a forum about things you know 0 about and acting like a playa errr asshole even is the way to make it in this biz I guess you will learn soon enough. Jane may have her moments but you are a fucking child that needs to grow the fuck up from what I am reading.. :321GFY

notoldschool 03-31-2009 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15695020)
Yeah I am sure that is all true. Once again you are all talk and no proof. That guy was right, you are a kid. Nice boxing link by the way and once again a posting full of errors. Now stop trying to take over this thread with your bullshit. You do not know a thing about dogs and that is proven by your postings in here. Go stroke off some place else. This is not your thread. :thumbsup

you are clueless. You may do 1 sale a day. Two at most with that paysite.

justinsain 03-31-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15694908)
Oh please. Pit Bulls are not all breed for brutality. My neighbors have the sweetest Pit Bull and he is not violent. He got into a fight with my German Shepherd and she kicked his ass. Any dog can be mean if you raise it to be mean. It is not in a dog's blood to be evil. :2 cents:

All dog breeds were developed and bred for certain characteristics and behavior.

So what was the Pit Bull bred for? What is the breeds history?

JaneB 03-31-2009 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 15695086)
All dog breeds were developed and bred for certain characteristics and behavior.

So what was the Pit Bull bred for? What is the breeds history?



The ancestors of modern Pit Bulls come from the bulldogs and terriers of England. At one time, every county in England had its own breed of terrier. Many of these still exist; however, some have evolved into new ones. Such is the case for the English White and the Black and Tan terriers, whose descendants include the bull-and-terriers, the Fox Terrier, and the Manchester Terrier. Terriers served an important purpose in England by killing vermin that might otherwise ruin crops, damage property, or spread disease such as the Black Plague. The development of sports such as rat- or badger-baiting further added to the breeds' importance.

During the mid-1800s, immigration to the United States from Ireland and England brought an influx of these dogs to America, mainly to Boston, where they were bred to be larger and stockier, working as farm dogs in the West as much as fighting dogs in the cities. The resulting breed, also called the American Pit Bull Terrier, became known as an "all-American" dog. Pit Bull-type dogs became popular as family pets for citizens who were not involved in dog-fighting or farming.

Statistics about dog bites attributable to pit bulls are difficult to analyze because the term "Pit Bull" may be used to refer to other breeds. The differences in appearance which separate dog breeds are often hard to determine.

Fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and, therefore, should not be the primary factor driving public policy concerning dangerous dogs. There is no national recording system for non-fatal dog bites in the U.S.

Kre8t0r 03-31-2009 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 15695086)
All dog breeds were developed and bred for certain characteristics and behavior.

So what was the Pit Bull bred for? What is the breeds history?

Here's another good link about the history of the breed and many "Pitbull Myths"
http://www.workingpitbull.com/history.htm

:pimp

justinsain 03-31-2009 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15695107)
The ancestors of modern Pit Bulls come from the bulldogs and terriers of England. At one time, every county in England had its own breed of terrier. Many of these still exist; however, some have evolved into new ones. Such is the case for the English White and the Black and Tan terriers, whose descendants include the bull-and-terriers, the Fox Terrier, and the Manchester Terrier. Terriers served an important purpose in England by killing vermin that might otherwise ruin crops, damage property, or spread disease such as the Black Plague. The development of sports such as rat- or badger-baiting further added to the breeds' importance.

During the mid-1800s, immigration to the United States from Ireland and England brought an influx of these dogs to America, mainly to Boston, where they were bred to be larger and stockier, working as farm dogs in the West as much as fighting dogs in the cities. The resulting breed, also called the American Pit Bull Terrier, became known as an "all-American" dog. Pit Bull-type dogs became popular as family pets for citizens who were not involved in dog-fighting or farming.

Statistics about dog bites attributable to pit bulls are difficult to analyze because the term "Pit Bull" may be used to refer to other breeds. The differences in appearance which separate dog breeds are often hard to determine.

Fatal attacks represent a small proportion of dog bite injuries to humans and, therefore, should not be the primary factor driving public policy concerning dangerous dogs. There is no national recording system for non-fatal dog bites in the U.S.

You left out this part :winkwink:

These dogs were used in battle and for guarding, but they also served utilitarian purposes, such as farm work. Specifically, these dogs accompanied farmers into the fields to assist with bringing bulls in for breeding, castration, or slaughter. The dogs, known generally as bulldogs, protected the farmer by subduing the bull if it attempted to gore him. Typically a dog would do this by biting the bull on the nose and holding on to the violently struggling bull despite injury. These traits permitted the development and rise of the bloody sports of bull-baiting and bear-baiting. In Elizabethan England, these spectacles were popular forms of entertainment, comparable to Shakespearean plays which often took place right next to the bear baiting pits in Southwark. However, in 1835, bull-baiting and bear-baiting were abolished by Parliament as cruel, and the custom died out over the following years.

Dog fighting, which could be carried out under clandestine measures, blossomed. Since Bulldogs proved too ponderous and uninterested in dog fighting, the Bulldogs were crossed with English White and Black and Tan Terriers. They were also bred to be intelligent and level-headed during fights and remain non-aggressive toward their handlers. Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten. Dogs that bit the referee were culled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

Kre8t0r 03-31-2009 09:00 PM

OMG you really don't think wikipedia has nothing but facts on there do you??

BTW you ALSO left this part out.... :winkwink:

"The neutrality of this article is disputed. Please see the discussion on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved." March 2008

JaneB 03-31-2009 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r (Post 15695121)
Here's another good link about the history of the breed and many "Pitbull Myths"
http://www.workingpitbull.com/history.htm

:pimp


Most of the people in here do not really care about the history. They want to believe that Pit Bulls are breed to be fight dogs. Pit Bulls get a bad rap like a lot of the bigger dogs do. You can't change the mind of most people. :winkwink:

TampaToker 03-31-2009 09:03 PM

Poor kid :(

Pits are more aggressive then most breeds but they do get a bad rap. Most "Pitbull attacks" are done by a breed that looks similar to them :2 cents:

bronco67 03-31-2009 09:03 PM

Its the stupid owners. Many pit owners are nice people who raise their pups in a great way, to be good obedient dogs.

BUT, the breed attracts a lot of the macho douche types who will not raise the dog properly. Pits have violence in the blood, more so than most breeds, but they need a human asshole to trigger it.

Kre8t0r 03-31-2009 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JaneB (Post 15695136)
Most of the people in here do not really care about the history. They want to believe that Pit Bulls are breed to be fight dogs. Pit Bulls get a bad rap like a lot of the bigger dogs do. You can't change the mind of most people. :winkwink:

I know Jane... But at least I know my boy has changed MANY minds of people that just read the hype but never spent time with a sweetheart pitbull. :thumbsup

Kre8t0r 03-31-2009 09:18 PM

My boy enjoying a Friday Night...
http://i575.photobucket.com/albums/s...r/IMG_0738.jpg

JaneB 03-31-2009 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r (Post 15695188)


He is so adorable. He looks a lot like my neighbors Pit Bull. They have a very nice Pit Bull. He is not interested in violence or fighting. He is scared of my German Shepherd.

PSSuperstars 03-31-2009 09:51 PM

Not to stereotype or anything..
BUt one of the victim's home was a single wide in a trailer park.. with what looked like an outhouse..

I'm not pointing blame.. but I'm sure there are issues in that household already....

WarChild 03-31-2009 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by justinsain (Post 15695126)
They were also bred to be intelligent and level-headed during fights and remain non-aggressive toward their handlers. Part of the standard for organized dog-fighting required that the match referee who is unacquainted with the dog be able to enter the ring, pick up a dog while it was engaged in a fight, and get the respective owner to carry it out of the ring without being bitten. Dogs that bit the referee were culled.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pit_bull

Did you even read what you posted? Your very own post shows that these fighting dogs that showed aggresion to humans were culled. This means their genes and temperment were removed from the gene pool. Sounds to me like that's the opposite of breeding human killers.

The simplest way to refute all of the ignorant posters including notoldschool is to point out that there's a reason that almost no (I've never met a single one) Veterinarians anywhere agree with and support breed bands. When all of the professionals, you know the ones with years and years of school and then many more years of hands on practice day in and day out with animals, are on one side of the issue and the other side is made up entirely of ignorant amateurs with spotty at best track records, well let's just say I know which side I have more faith in.

Iron Fist 03-31-2009 10:01 PM

Okay boy.... "NECK!!!"

tony286 03-31-2009 10:13 PM

I wonder what the back story was ?

GAMEFINEST 03-31-2009 10:13 PM

ive seen many walk around the park with their owners...pretty calm

WarChild 03-31-2009 10:23 PM

It's very simple. Any dog can be mean or aggressive. Some dogs have stronger prey drives than others, and will be compelled to chase objects like running children. Large powerful breeds can naturally do more damage than smaller dogs. Banning any one, two or three breeds is not going to stop fatal dog attacks. If you ban pittbulls all together, undesirable owners will simply move on to another powerful breed.

The solution is simple. Dog owners should be held responsible for their dogs, period. I have three large Rottweilers and I take great pains to make sure they aren't out wandering around. They are properly fenced, walked in control and properly trained. They're all very gentle dogs and even still I would never leave a child to interact with them alone. That's being a responsible owner.

Look at it like this. Far more people are killed by drunk or speeding drivers yet we don't ban alcohol or sportscars. Rather, we punish offenders. Drive drunk and kill someone? Vehicular manslaughter. Drive an insane speed and kill someone? Vehicular manslaughter. Drive drunk and get caught or get caught speeding excessively, and lose your license and or go to jail. Reasonable responses to the actual act.

If your dog escape and kills or harms somebody, manslaughter. If your dogs are out wandering the neighborhood or generally causing a threat, you should lose the right to have powerful dogs. Responsible owners can thus continue to responsibly have these animals and the undesirable owners will be weeded out.

Breed bans have never and will never work that's just a simple fact.

James124 03-31-2009 11:56 PM

Bad dog owners are a huge problem. Many problems seem to occur when 2 dogs, run together, and there's a child around.
I only ever been bit by a German shepherd when I was out jogging. It bit my left butt cheek and it hurt like fuck :) This year I've been chased by dogs when running three times, now I just turn around and run towards the dog, they usually get scared and run away. One time I chased the dog into the woods, I find the owner listening to IPod totally unaware that his dog had run away. I wanted to waste him.... People who have no control of their dogs, should be mega-fined!

CyberHustler 04-01-2009 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Kre8t0r (Post 15695188)

What's in the cup?


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