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Jman 04-16-2009 09:52 AM

Today is a sad day in Canada
 
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...gels-0416.html

Bunch of good guys I know got jailed and now the streets will be open to all the wannabee gangs.

At least when HA was ruling, the streets where safe.

I love my country but the goverment keeps on fucking it up:Oh crap

_Richard_ 04-16-2009 09:55 AM

they're doing a great job over here dude.

_Richard_ 04-16-2009 09:56 AM

but i suppose if you start importing 50 cal machine guns, it's going to piss a few people off no?

Boinkers 04-16-2009 10:01 AM

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Most of the people arrested Wednesday were formally charged with first-degree murder, attempted murder, gangsterism and drug trafficking.
Gangsterism? Are they making up new words that sound like laws now?

1200 cops to arrest 123 angels lol, that's sad. 10 cops for each angel they arrested...I understand being cautious but holy fuck that's a lot of cops for one bust.

Martin 04-16-2009 10:04 AM

HA's aren't going anywhere.

»Rob Content« 04-16-2009 10:06 AM

So it's a sad day when drug dealers and people committing firs degree murder and arrested, damn that canada...

LadyMischief 04-16-2009 10:07 AM

my grandmother lived in a rough neighbourhood I wouldn't normally have allowed when she was living on her own. But there were two king's Crew (HA affiliates) next door, and I tell you on her street, not even the teenagers caused shit. Make a peep on that street and they were outside taking care of business, not to mention they treated my nan with the utmost respect, shoveled her sidewalk in winter, helped her carry groceries, etc. I was hella glad they were there.

JFK 04-16-2009 10:08 AM

All that cash forfit to the crown:(
"They seized $16 million in cash, dozens of kilograms of cocaine, marijuana and hashish, and thousands of pills, "effectively removing these drugs from our streets," Chabot said."

Ozarkz 04-16-2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15751242)
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...gels-0416.html

Bunch of good guys I know got jailed and now the streets will be open to all the wannabee gangs.

At least when HA was ruling, the streets where safe.

I love my country but the goverment keeps on fucking it up:Oh crap


Wow you really are a moron. :2 cents:

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ChatCash_Rob 04-16-2009 10:23 AM

notice how it's all QC?

Jman 04-16-2009 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Ozarkz (Post 15751293)
Wow you really are a moron. :2 cents:

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you joined in January 2009 and have over 1000 posts and call moi a moron :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Keep up the stalking kiddo.

Iron Fist 04-16-2009 10:28 AM

1200 cops to arrest 123 HAs? Talk about insecurity... and then they wonder why people form gangs.... the cops do it too.. they just don't call themselves a gang.

Jman 04-16-2009 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15751377)
1200 cops to arrest 123 HAs? Talk about insecurity... and then they wonder why people form gangs.... the cops do it too.. they just don't call themselves a gang.

Yup and the sad thing is WE pay for the salary of the cops gang

Socks 04-16-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boinkers (Post 15751271)
Gangsterism? Are they making up new words that sound like laws now?

1200 cops to arrest 123 angels lol, that's sad. 10 cops for each angel they arrested...I understand being cautious but holy fuck that's a lot of cops for one bust.

That's how many officers were involved, from every little thing they did.. Lots of them never left the police station. The person who finger printed each of those people at different stations for example, that's probably 25 of that number right there

Jdoughs 04-16-2009 10:54 AM

H.A. bought a old Church in my dads neighborhood in Winterpeg several years ago, it was a rough neighborhood, lots of robberies and violence.

Until the bikers moved in.

The press was doing an expose to make sure everyone knew the bad bikers had moved into the neighborhood, and went around to a couple businesses, then to a couple homes. Every single person was HAPPY they were there. Prior to them moving in the native/asian gangs were taking over.

Now nobody has the balls to even spit in that part of town. (I don't live there, but here the stories, and his property value has increased as a direct result of it.)

SBJ 04-16-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyMischief (Post 15751290)
my grandmother lived in a rough neighbourhood I wouldn't normally have allowed when she was living on her own. But there were two king's Crew (HA affiliates) next door, and I tell you on her street, not even the teenagers caused shit. Make a peep on that street and they were outside taking care of business, not to mention they treated my nan with the utmost respect, shoveled her sidewalk in winter, helped her carry groceries, etc. I was hella glad they were there.

yup I had no idea how cool and laid back they were really are till a few years ago I started going to this biker bar that my brother-in-laws band played at once a month. It was filled with 80% HA and in the 10-15 times I went there in that year the only fight I saw in that bar was when one biker was too drunk to ride and was going to go out and get on his bike and a HA tackled him to get his keys from him..

I've went to many other bars where fighting happens all the time so I found it funny that this biker bar never had fights

Phoenix 04-16-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15751491)
H.A. bought a old Church in my dads neighborhood in Winterpeg several years ago, it was a rough neighborhood, lots of robberies and violence.

Until the bikers moved in.

The press was doing an expose to make sure everyone knew the bad bikers had moved into the neighborhood, and went around to a couple businesses, then to a couple homes. Every single person was HAPPY they were there. Prior to them moving in the native/asian gangs were taking over.

Now nobody has the balls to even spit in that part of town. (I don't live there, but here the stories, and his property value has increased as a direct result of it.)

see that story repeated a lot

most proper organizations go out of their way to make the community better

even the lions club..lol

Jman 04-16-2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jdoughs (Post 15751491)
H.A. bought a old Church in my dads neighborhood in Winterpeg several years ago, it was a rough neighborhood, lots of robberies and violence.

Until the bikers moved in.

The press was doing an expose to make sure everyone knew the bad bikers had moved into the neighborhood, and went around to a couple businesses, then to a couple homes. Every single person was HAPPY they were there. Prior to them moving in the native/asian gangs were taking over.

Now nobody has the balls to even spit in that part of town. (I don't live there, but here the stories, and his property value has increased as a direct result of it.)

Yup people will realize they had it good when it will be to late.

Us humans are our worst enemies :Oh crap

Sly 04-16-2009 12:03 PM

Wait a minute... you guys are telling me there is crime in Canada?!

JFK 04-16-2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sly (Post 15751753)
Wait a minute... you guys are telling me there is crime in Canada?!

Yeah, just saw a moose jaywalking:Oh crap

Boinkers 04-16-2009 12:23 PM

It'll be interesting to see what they do to the HA's in BC. We're stuck in the middle of a massive gang war for the past year or so now. There's like 5 different gangs killing each other all over the place here right now.

While I'm not sure if the HA's themselves are involved, they have a huge member base here (the BC HQ is just down the road from my house).

Tempest 04-16-2009 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15751251)
they're doing a great job over here dude.

Do you have your head burried in the sand? Have you not heard of the gang wars and killings going on in the vallery area? It's becoming a war zone out there.

NoWhErE 04-16-2009 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boinkers (Post 15751271)
Gangsterism? Are they making up new words that sound like laws now?

1200 cops to arrest 123 angels lol, that's sad. 10 cops for each angel they arrested...I understand being cautious but holy fuck that's a lot of cops for one bust.



You do know that the bikers had bunkers right? WIth security cameras, barbed wire and a shit load of guns inside.

There's a reason why they sent in that many cops.




But alot of the peeps are right, they just opened up the streets to a warzone. Street gangs have been trying to get in for awhile and now the door is wide open.

Loch 04-16-2009 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15751242)
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/st...gels-0416.html

Bunch of good guys I know got jailed and now the streets will be open to all the wannabee gangs.

At least when HA was ruling, the streets where safe.

I love my country but the government keeps on fucking it up:Oh crap

You sir have a funny perspective on how the world works.
The wannabees are called prospects you ignorant fuck and they are being bitched around by HA, "you caught me in a bad mood", and without HA there would be WAY less of them!!
Even the small timers not directly related to HA are in some way weather its thru narcotics or other means of illegal activity.

Ohh wait ohh my god ohh my gooooood you have friends in 81 ? waaaauuuuuuu

halfpint 04-16-2009 02:14 PM

As the saying goes "Support Your Big Local Red Machine"

BlackCrayon 04-16-2009 02:59 PM

lol yeah, nice guys.

Profits of Doom 04-16-2009 03:22 PM

The only reason the neighborhoods around their clubhouses are safe is to keep the police heat out of the neighborhoods and off the illegal shit that is going on in the clubhouses.

The people that claim to be buddies with Hell's Angels are always so full of shit. Those fuckers would step on you in a second if they had something to gain from it, so you are NOT their buddy.

Try getting those mother fuckers out of your business once they entrench themselves in there. We had them infesting the Deja Vu in Toronto when I went there for a few months to attach an adult bookstore to it. They were controlling dancers and embezzling money from the business through the bartenders and the management, who were justifiably scared shitless of them. We had to fire everyone and start over and the Hell's Angels did not make that easy, and there wasn't a day that I went to work that I didn't fear being shot. Real good people there...

Ozarkz 04-16-2009 03:24 PM

This is Jean-Francois


lulu36 04-16-2009 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 15751545)
see that story repeated a lot

most proper organizations go out of their way to make the community better

even the lions club..lol

hahaha. its true what you say. its open territory now, not going to be any better that's for sure.

Spunky 04-16-2009 05:09 PM

They have the best reefer

_Richard_ 04-16-2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tempest (Post 15751858)
Do you have your head burried in the sand? Have you not heard of the gang wars and killings going on in the vallery area? It's becoming a war zone out there.

no shit.....

yeuD 04-16-2009 07:40 PM

"Today is a sad day in Canada "
way to over state the obvious

cykoe6 04-16-2009 07:49 PM

I thought every day was a sad day in Canada. Anyways bikers are worthless meth dealing trash. Seems to me there is little point in arresting them when a bullet could do the job nicely. Are we supposed to have sympathy for every violent drug gang or just the ones that ride motorcycles? :error The person who started this thread is an idiot. :1orglaugh

jakethedog 04-16-2009 07:51 PM

We need the fucking boys to clean up the fucking mess over here .. fucking kids are shooting it out in the streets .. shootings almost daily .. weekly at min .. Forcing the heat to bring down stiffer laws and much harder action towards the good guys .. .. fucking it up for everyone .. Then there is the issue with the new "younger" boys who have different ethics for business .. times are changing .. nothing like 15 yrs ago .. whole new ball game ..

Spunky 04-16-2009 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15753248)
I thought every day was a sad day in Canada. Anyways bikers are worthless meth dealing trash. Seems to me there is little point in arresting them when a bullet could do the job nicely. Are we supposed to have sympathy for every violent drug gang or just the ones that ride motorcycles? :error The person who started this thread is an idiot. :1orglaugh

Yes it's so miserable here,the walrus and Eskimos run wild in the streets.It's so cold on the tundra that your breath freezes

You would be surprised who is involved with the HA and they are more than meth dealers

tragedy 04-16-2009 08:03 PM

Why the fuck would I want the HA's to tell me how to live my life?
If a cop wants to talk to me I can tell him to fuck off (as long as I'm not in a car) and nothing will happen.

I'd like to see someone try that with the HA

cykoe6 04-16-2009 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 15753259)
Yes it's so miserable here,the walrus and Eskimos run wild in the streets.It's so cold on the tundra that your breath freezes

Yea that is what I thought. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky (Post 15753259)
You would be surprised who is involved with the HA and they are more than meth dealers

I know....... they are also involved in gun running, murder for hire, extortion, car theft, fraud etc. I did not mean to diminish their accomplishments.

tehHinjew 04-16-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boinkers (Post 15751271)
Gangsterism? Are they making up new words that sound like laws now?

1200 cops to arrest 123 angels lol, that's sad. 10 cops for each angel they arrested...I understand being cautious but holy fuck that's a lot of cops for one bust.

gangsterism is a pretty old law lol

Doctor Dre 04-16-2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boinkers (Post 15751271)
Gangsterism? Are they making up new words that sound like laws now?

1200 cops to arrest 123 angels lol, that's sad. 10 cops for each angel they arrested...I understand being cautious but holy fuck that's a lot of cops for one bust.

Dude the hells were controlling 100 % of the drugs import in this country, they drove the kilo price up by almost 200%, they were killing prison guards and were planning to kill politicians and cops.

The days of Mom Boucher were over and they became good neighboors since then, but they are as organised as the mafia is...

Doctor Dre 04-16-2009 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15751377)
1200 cops to arrest 123 HAs? Talk about insecurity... and then they wonder why people form gangs.... the cops do it too.. they just don't call themselves a gang.

Dude all theses members had legal businesses, it's no street gang dealing drugs lol
They had high security armed bunkers with fences, security cameras and other.

You guys really fail to understand how implented in the community the HA's are in the province.

I know a bunch of guys that are going in, from their legal busineses (gyms, print shops, stores and much more).

Doctor Dre 04-16-2009 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15751451)
That's how many officers were involved, from every little thing they did.. Lots of them never left the police station. The person who finger printed each of those people at different stations for example, that's probably 25 of that number right there

The bust probably involved a lot more polices then criminals that day. In my town alone there must have been a couple hundread coppers on the clock that day.

The bunker is about 1 km away from where I live. They had roadblocks all over the place for exit issues, helicopter running in the sky to watch for runners, at least 10 police cars in front of the bunkers.

On top of that they had over 25 perquisition during the same day all over the place in the city, that's just a fraction of the legal businesses they have.

Over here they own the best gyms, hotels, nightclubs and tons of other stuff.

Now that they are gone, street gangs from montreal are already here tonight.

Doctor Dre 04-16-2009 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15753248)
I thought every day was a sad day in Canada. Anyways bikers are worthless meth dealing trash. Seems to me there is little point in arresting them when a bullet could do the job nicely. Are we supposed to have sympathy for every violent drug gang or just the ones that ride motorcycles? :error The person who started this thread is an idiot. :1orglaugh

Read my post. They controlled pretty much 100 % of the hard crime... There was no heroin, meth or any drugs of that kind arround because of them.

No drugs arround playground, no gang violence (except when gang members ran down for a visit, lasted a day or two, no serious injuries).

They were also involved in charities and local organisations to help the poor.

Some way or another there is going to be drugs, I'd rather it be them controlling it then street gangs.

ExLust 04-16-2009 09:25 PM

Tsk tsk tsk that's not good for the citizen.

_Richard_ 04-17-2009 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15753248)
I thought every day was a sad day in Canada. Anyways bikers are worthless meth dealing trash. Seems to me there is little point in arresting them when a bullet could do the job nicely. Are we supposed to have sympathy for every violent drug gang or just the ones that ride motorcycles? :error The person who started this thread is an idiot. :1orglaugh

you'll never guess what we do to murderers in sad ol'canada.

so maybe you should think about that 'nice bullet' when you judge trash :2 cents:

RMK 04-17-2009 08:59 PM

i just read another article about this. in an amazing display of small worldism, it turns out the whole hell's angels raid was based on intelligence provided by GFY's tempest in a thread about all their "scams" on a canadian biker board. three cheers for our hometown hero!

Spunky 04-17-2009 09:13 PM

They have their own crematoriums.they want you gone bad enough,nobody would know

Shoplifter 04-17-2009 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Profits of Doom (Post 15752495)
The only reason the neighborhoods around their clubhouses are safe is to keep the police heat out of the neighborhoods and off the illegal shit that is going on in the clubhouses.

They are very clever about being twice removed from any illegal activity. The various gooks who are shooting it out in Vancouver are almost certainly doing 81 business whether they know it or not.

Canada has to move away from it's namby pamby socialist views on Criminals and get real sentences for these serious crimes that destabilize society. More cops, more prisons and realistic laws to deal with crimes by immigrants.

cykoe6 04-17-2009 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBR Richard (Post 15757137)
you'll never guess what we do to murderers in sad ol'canada.

That is good to hear.... considering the Hells Angels are engaged in murders and contract killings on a regular basis they should be dealt with in a reasonable manner in Canada then. Thanks for letting me know. :thumbsup

Quagmire 04-18-2009 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 15753452)
Read my post. They controlled pretty much 100 % of the hard crime... There was no heroin, meth or any drugs of that kind arround because of them.

No drugs arround playground, no gang violence (except when gang members ran down for a visit, lasted a day or two, no serious injuries).

They were also involved in charities and local organisations to help the poor.

Some way or another there is going to be drugs, I'd rather it be them controlling it then street gangs.

People just don't get it. There are going to be criminals. There are going to be drugs. This is fact and reality. I would much rather have an organized group of criminals keeping things under control than a ton of little shithead gangbangers trying to make a name for themselves and fucking things up.

The Hell's Angels generally don't go around malls shooting security guards (http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Crime/20...56106-sun.html - HAHAHA) they stick with shooting other criminals.

I look at it this way - the battles they had with the smaller gangs were like countries fighting over borders in the middle ages. Eventually the dominant one(s) took control and relative peace resulted.

Better the devil you know, than the devil you don't. :2 cents:

CyberHustler 04-18-2009 08:15 AM

So... they took out the white gang and now the colored ones are going to move in? :upsidedow


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