BitTorrent Trackers Close En Masse After Pirate Bay Verdict
 

Interesting......
Source: http://torrentfreak.com/bittorrent-t...erdict-090420/

Interesting - it will be interesting to see what the overall impact on torrent downloads will be.

it's all fun and games till someone ends up in jail... :2 cents:

Music pirates are also the group who actual SPEND the most money on music as well.

http://i.gizmodo.com/5219587/study-f...an-non+pirates

It's just people panicking like when Scott McCausland was jailed.

good stuff...it about time the torrent sites had some pain

Where are the typical GFY "time shift" retards to tell us it doesn't really matter..

torrent traffic is fluid, downloaders/seeders will just move to the open trackers that choose to continue operating.

More traffic for the pirate bay. If a user didn't know about the pirate bay, guarrenteed they do now.

Its really nothing amazing. This crap happens all the time and soon...very soon a new medium will open up for people to trade (steal) songs, videos, programs. There is always another avenue!

those studies are total bs. i have bought like two cds since napster and everyone else i know is the same.

When you think about it, prison is really just another form of time shifting. :1orglaugh

Something new will takes its place.

Yeah, it look like they got scared. But they wont arrest every owner of overy torrent place.

It's not about purchasing CDs, which they have. People who download "free" music are the biggest purchasers of downloadable and hardcopies of their music.

This is true.. :1orglaugh

rapidshare > torrents

Finally this piracy problem is over and the music business is saved :upsidedow

god damn it... i just lol'd in my pants...

My thoughts exactly, most people that discovered Rapidshare and similar file hosting sites gave up on torrents shortly thereafter...

The question is does downloading that free stuff actually lead to sales or are these just music junkies who download and buy and would be buying anywhere if nothing were free?

I have a feeling a decent number of these people were people who would have been buying music anyway.

I'm sure you have the occasional hoarder, but for the most part these people are downloading the free stuff, like people used to listen to the radio. They have no problem paying for music that they find and enjoy.

lol at the studies that show downloading increases sales.

Make a graph of the growth in torrent music filesharing compared to record label revenues. I bet it looks an awful lot like a big "X".

Yeah. But that's NOT because of the file sharing. It's more because it's all about selling singles now and not full albums. People WILL NO LONGER spend $15 for an album that has 1 or 2 good songs on it. That model is dead. When you can only make $1 per sale instead of $15, revenue is going to slip.

And the study had nothing to do with downloading increasing sales anyhow. Lol at the guy who can't read. :winkwink:

The kids got scared..... This proves that much of the piracy is calculated risks. By shutting down voluntary, they also know they are doing something illegal.

If all countries can agree about similar laws, and struck hard on all levels, they will be forced underground, and piracy will be limited. I think its just a matter of time when this happens.

Well it will never end...

please torrents are one legal precedent from being just as legal as a vcr. The vcr was illegal too before the betamax case overturned the lower court ruling.

Just because some people don't want to spend 100k defending themselves against a missapplied legal precedent doesn't mean they know what they are doing is illegal, it just quite simply that they don't want to incur the expense of fighting for their rights. They will let the pirate bay fight the fight, and then relaunch after it is 100% legal.

A big part of it is also the shift to a digital singles business model. It used to be if you had a hit song on the radio and a fan wanted the song they had to shell out for the full CD. So the label knew a hit song would bring in big revenue. I once had a record label A&R guy (back when I was a music journalist) tell me that a top ten hit single would mean about 15-18 million in revenue for the label. Now instead of buying a record for $12-$18 you can just pay 99cents and get the one song you like.

I'm not saying downloaders haven't hurt labels, they have and I think they have hurt them badly, but the availability of he single and the fact that the record labels are focused on hit songs, not good records has hurt them as well.

Didnt most music pretty much used to come out as singles all of the fucking time?

Kind of. You used to be able to buy some singles with a B side so you were actually getting 2 songs when you bought it. But usually those were anywhere from $4-$6 each. So you could get it, but it was pretty expensive and not all singles were available, pretty much just the hits.

Now you can buy any song from any album you want.

Both my favorite trackers shut down. Fucking sucks.
I now have to use some crappy Norwegian tracker.

I will pay anyone for a invite to a good private tracker with scene releases.

Wasn't there some sort of plan to have a server array out in international waters or something like that?

yeah... i call bullshit as well... i don't defend it, i know its wrong.. but i can't remember the last CD i bought either. its been many years. i'm not some obsessed weirdo who has 6000 downloaded CD's... but the reality is that its just easier to download something and listen to it. the idea that someone is then going to buy it is pretty far fetched. why buy something thats already on my ipod, cd quality, i can listen to in the car etc? charity? i'm sure some people do... there's no question about that. but i just can't believe that downloading free CD quality music for playback on digital devices and for drag and drop burning to CD's somehow helps music sales.

a vcr didn't connect you instantly to a library of anything and everything every produced and allow you to instantly reproduce it in perfect quality. vcr's didn't allow very effective sharing or reproduction of anything.

you can keep arguing all you want... you're in serious denial... like anyone else thats staunchly defending theft, your issues are with authority, not purported "rights" and you are arguing what any reasonable person understands to be a losing argument. you can't compare any point in history or any technology with the scale of theft that's possible and happening now with torrents. the legal system is catching up and people will start going to jail. everyone wanted to yell "fuck you" from the mountain top at those who actually produce entertainment and software and now these industries are screaming "fuck you" back with the governments on their side.

but you're entertaining for sure... so please don't stop.

so please... break this all down, sentence by sentence, point by point as you do... so i can ignore it.

This is not really about the tracker itself, but the content and the way its organized. Obviously it is not legal (in Sweden) to organize piracy this way. Otherwise they wouldn't go to jail... And if I'm not mistaken, this was not about the website and all trackers at pirate bay, but just some few.

I think in Sweden, you do not pay the costs if you win. So its about calculated risks, as I said. Do you think they would shut down their trackers, if the pirate bay guys were not sentenced? I don't think so. However, I'm not only talking about calculating the risks vs the laws right now, but also politics. In the end, its the lawmakers, local and international, that will decide the future of internet. And pirates ruin the privacy and freedom with and on internet... ironically something they "fight" for...

Actually, the costs, time and effort, are the factors keeping copyright holders away from doing something. Only those organized and with money, can do something. This lack of protection is a political question now, and with the growing amount of piracy, I think the only solution is the politicians to decide on which levels they will interfere. These steps are of course unfortunate, but it will happen. Unless everyone shut down their trackers :upsidedow