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DWB 04-30-2009 01:33 PM

WarChild - Lets discuss "Asexual Reproduction"
 
Asexual reproduction

This topic deserves it's own thread.

You say that humans will never be able to self-reproduce. I disagree based on the fact that other forms of life are currently able to. Almost all plants, all jellyfish, some organisms and some breeds of fish, birds and even a rare breed of shark can do it... why can't we?

Why do you think it is impossible for humans to do so over time?

WarChild 04-30-2009 01:38 PM

Ugh bad timing, I'm just running out to the gym and then I have BJJ so I won't really be around until much later.

In short, I think it's _possible_ that human beings (Homosapiens) may one day end up being an ancestor to some sort of asexual species but as for Homosapiens macro evolving to being asexually reproductive, not very likely. Our genetic make up is taken half from the mother and half from the father. If one person could all by themselves reproduce, it'd be nothing more than cloning really.

Farang 04-30-2009 01:41 PM

This should be interesting.

candyflip 04-30-2009 01:43 PM

Not impossible, but irrelevant today as it would be hundreds of thousands if not millions of years.

Pleasurepays 04-30-2009 01:46 PM

it wouldn't just be a question of physiology, it would be question of a substantial change in our psychological makeup

hjnet 04-30-2009 01:49 PM

Why? Would be quite boring, wouldn't it?

Darkland 04-30-2009 01:51 PM

Oh no... Women already think they don't need us, but... but... What if it became true?

All kidding aside, I read an article a long time ago that animals in confinement without a sexual partner somehow switched to asexual reproduction. :2 cents:

BradM 04-30-2009 01:51 PM

Unless there is a drastic change in humanity whereby we need to critically adapt to those new conditions by asexually reproducing... that would be millions of years away at best.

(2,000 years in biblical times)

Twistys Tim 04-30-2009 02:03 PM

Female Komodo Dragons can reproduce without a male being present. The can produce a clutch of eggs that produces only male off spring, that they in-turn mate with to produce more females.

I think it is called parthenogenesis. But reptiles have a different chromosomal system to mamals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6196225.stm

DrChango 04-30-2009 02:07 PM

asexual reproduction in more complex organisms limits genetic diversity within that species, and slows adaptation

besides, sex is more fun than knitting

DWB 04-30-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 15805520)
Female Komodo Dragons can reproduce without a male being present. The can produce a clutch of eggs that produces only male off spring, that they in-turn mate with to produce more females.

I think it is called parthenogenesis. But reptiles have a different chromosomal system to mamals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6196225.stm

Exactly. But it's done because it has to be done that way and it took a long time in order for them to do it I'm sure.

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Originally Posted by BradM (Post 15805466)
Unless there is a drastic change in humanity whereby we need to critically adapt to those new conditions by asexually reproducing... that would be millions of years away at best.

(2,000 years in biblical times)

Oh, it would be thousands or millions of years no doubt.

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Originally Posted by Darkland (Post 15805465)
All kidding aside, I read an article a long time ago that animals in confinement without a sexual partner somehow switched to asexual reproduction. :2 cents:

Yes, some can change out of survival. It's unreal if you think about it, but it does happen, and that is the point.

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 15805427)
it wouldn't just be a question of physiology, it would be question of a substantial change in our psychological makeup

Agreed. But possible over time I believe.

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 15805407)
Not impossible, but irrelevant today as it would be hundreds of thousands if not millions of years.

It is possible. Other life forms already do it. It would be relevant when the time came for it to be relevant.

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15805380)
In short, I think it's _possible_ that human beings (Homosapiens) may one day end up being an ancestor to some sort of asexual species but as for Homosapiens macro evolving to being asexually reproductive, not very likely. Our genetic make up is taken half from the mother and half from the father. If one person could all by themselves reproduce, it'd be nothing more than cloning really.

It has with other life forms. I don't see why we couldn't do it. Sure, it's beyond anything that makes sense to any of us at this time BUT if you believe in evolution, the thought that we once lived in the water and were just an organism is equally if not more absurd of a thought. Yet is is accepted as fact if you believe in that theory.

Be it cloning or not, it would be what it would be.

So with that said, it has to start somewhere. That doesn't mean that it will survive time and end up being the next form of homosapiens, but it may try even if it fails. There has to be a point in time where it starts, a rough draft takes form, the fish crawls out of the water so to speak and onto land for the first time. I believe this first step is happening right now. A VERY crude and rough draft indeed but the first steps none the less.

DWB 04-30-2009 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DrChango (Post 15805536)
asexual reproduction in more complex organisms limits genetic diversity within that species, and slows adaptation

besides, sex is more fun than knitting

Sex is more fun than knitting. :2 cents:

DWB 04-30-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 15805520)
I think it is called parthenogenesis. But reptiles have a different chromosomal system to mamals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6196225.stm

That is one form of it. Parthenogenesis can happen sometimes in turkeys and a few breeds of sharks.

So it's happening right now. Scientist have even said that a male (human) could carry a child to full term based on his internal makeup but obviously he can not get pregnant.

marketsmart 04-30-2009 03:16 PM

human beings will be gone long before the time needed for us to evolve to asexual reproduction.. :2 cents:

CaptainHowdy 04-30-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 15805743)
human beings will be gone long before the time needed for us to evolve to asexual reproduction.. :2 cents:

You never know...

cherrylula 04-30-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15805641)
That is one form of it. Parthenogenesis can happen sometimes in turkeys and a few breeds of sharks.

So it's happening right now. Scientist have even said that a male (human) could carry a child to full term based on his internal makeup but obviously he can not get pregnant.

Where would they carry the child without a uterus?

_Richard_ 04-30-2009 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15805909)
Where would they carry the child without a uterus?

marsupials!

bausch 04-30-2009 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15805380)
Ugh bad timing, I'm just running out to the gym and then I have BJJ so I won't really be around until much later.

In short, I think it's _possible_ that human beings (Homosapiens) may one day end up being an ancestor to some sort of asexual species but as for Homosapiens macro evolving to being asexually reproductive, not very likely. Our genetic make up is taken half from the mother and half from the father. If one person could all by themselves reproduce, it'd be nothing more than cloning really.

Whats BJJ? Is that the same thing as BBBJ?

DWB 04-30-2009 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15805909)
Where would they carry the child without a uterus?

I don't know, I've been looking for the news clip since I posted about it.

Not sure how they figured it out but they said a man could carry to full term and then have the baby taken out c-section.

Creeps me out to think about it.

MaDalton 04-30-2009 05:13 PM

interesting topic on a board called "go fuck yourself"

cherrylula 04-30-2009 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy (Post 15806098)
I don't know, I've been looking for the news clip since I posted about it.

Not sure how they figured it out but they said a man could carry to full term and then have the baby taken out c-section.

Creeps me out to think about it.

yeah my uterus is currently occupied, and its making everything else in there all smashed up and it sucks really, really bad. The acid reflux is out of this world.

a pouch on the outside while sounds gross would be easier I think. There should be some way to grow these things in a tank, to full term. :upsidedow

NinjaSteve 04-30-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 15806066)
Whats BJJ? Is that the same thing as BBBJ?

Maybe a finger is used?

CrkMStanz 04-30-2009 05:47 PM

if we reached that stage ...

would all adult websites be masturbation sites?

would penis enhancement pills/devices become obsolete?

would there be breasts involved somehow?

which would survive? dildos , fleshlights , neither?

would there even be pleasure associated with the 'act' (whatever that might evolve to be)

would there even be an 'adult' industry?

just thinkin' .....

munki 04-30-2009 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15806142)
yeah my uterus is currently occupied, and its making everything else in there all smashed up and it sucks really, really bad. The acid reflux is out of this world.

a pouch on the outside while sounds gross would be easier I think. There should be some way to grow these things in a tank, to full term. :upsidedow

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

DWB 05-01-2009 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 15806142)
a pouch on the outside while sounds gross would be easier I think. There should be some way to grow these things in a tank, to full term. :upsidedow

Actually, that would probably work. It works for marsupials.

bausch 05-01-2009 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by NinjaSteve (Post 15806160)
Maybe a finger is used?

But what does it stand for? I know its an acronym for something

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 05-01-2009 05:42 AM

God created man in his image, does god asexually reproduce? God damn logical fags...

DWB 05-01-2009 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 15807396)
does god asexually reproduce?

Of course he can!

You've never heard about Gods wife or piece of ass have you? So if Jesus is Gods son, how do you suppose he was created without the help of a woman? God asexually reproduced!!! Can I get an hallelujah?

Further more, if he can create and destroy all there is, was or ever will be in the universe, is all knowing and all powerful yet can't asexually reproduce... he's a sorry excuse for a God. :2 cents:

This thread can be closed now that we've established that God, the creator and destroyer of the universe and man, can asexually reproduce.

bausch 05-01-2009 08:24 PM

I still want to know what a BJJ is. Warchild always likes to stalk me in all my threads so I thought I would return the favor so he can see how HE likes it.

WarChild 05-01-2009 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bausch (Post 15810259)
I still want to know what a BJJ is. Warchild always likes to stalk me in all my threads so I thought I would return the favor so he can see how HE likes it.

It's a whole room full of sweaty men in pajamas rolling around on the floor together.

Wanna play BJJ with me?

bausch 05-01-2009 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15810264)
It's a whole room full of sweaty men in pajamas rolling around on the floor together.

Wanna play BJJ with me?

oh yea ur right http://www.google.com/search?q=BJJ&i...ient=firefox-a

DWB 05-02-2009 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarChild (Post 15810264)
It's a whole room full of sweaty men in pajamas rolling around on the floor together.

Sounds like Kman's kind of place


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