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Vin 05-11-2009 01:38 PM

Adult Dating Conversions Going to Hell?
 
Hi,

I've been actively promoting adult dating via PPC and SEO for multiple sponsors. Since about 4 weeks, all the conversions are decreasing big time. Free joins have been stable, but the conversion from free to paid has been going to hell. I'd say about 40% decrease.

What are other people doing adult dating seeing?

Thanks..

markethustler 05-11-2009 01:47 PM

You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

http://www.datingactionnow.com/stats/stats.bmp

Sosa 05-11-2009 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markethustler (Post 15842360)
You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

http://www.datingactionnow.com/stats/stats.bmp

Must have some nice targetted traffic there. Goodjob

polish_aristocrat 05-11-2009 01:53 PM

what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.


May also want to check out the relatively new sexinyourcity.com in case you haven't already.

Vin 05-11-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markethustler (Post 15842360)
You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

http://www.datingactionnow.com/stats/stats.bmp


You've got same great traffic there buddy! Congrats.

We already promote them, but their conversion has been decreasing as well. Not as much as the rest, but as well.

Not sure if you're promoting Fling, SexSearch and Friendfinder as well. But I'd like to know how their conversion is for you with targeted traffic like yours.

P.S. We've done a review of XXXBlackbook a while ago, and I have to say their website is top notch. Blows the competition away by far. Plus their team as great!

_Richard_ 05-11-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin (Post 15842319)
Hi,

I've been actively promoting adult dating via PPC and SEO for multiple sponsors. Since about 4 weeks, all the conversions are decreasing big time. Free joins have been stable, but the conversion from free to paid has been going to hell. I'd say about 40% decrease.

What are other people doing adult dating seeing?

Thanks..

have you tried Free Trials for your Dating traffic? We pay on all free signups ;)

Vin 05-11-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 15842377)
what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.


May also want to check out the relatively new sexinyourcity.com in case you haven't already.

Actually SexSearch is our biggest client, Friendfinder comes in 2nd followed by fling and blackbook.

But it seems SexSearch is in the biggest downfall conversion wise.. but you're not experiencing that?

O MARINA 05-11-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 15842377)
what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.
.




My info is below for anyone who has questions about the program :thumbsup

TritonJL 05-11-2009 02:04 PM

What type of billing options are you offering them? I know before we had Lava Life come on board with us , they had the same questions as you. Have you looked at Billing Mobile/Land Line?


^^^ Marina , can I email you a few questions as well?

O MARINA 05-11-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TritonJL (Post 15842413)

^^^ Marina , can I email you a few questions as well?

yeah - of course

brassmonkey 05-11-2009 02:08 PM

mine are ok

TritonJL 05-11-2009 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O MARINA (Post 15842426)
yeah - of course

Sent ya one!

Rico2009 05-11-2009 03:09 PM

You should definitely try sexinyourcity.com. We haven't been facing these issues.

Just hit me up on ICQ: 476746386

Sharky 05-11-2009 03:42 PM

You are seeing the same % drops across all of your dating sponsors? I haven't seen any evidence of this on our end overall, especially from PPC/SEO.

Are you already promoting PimpMansion / HornyMatches.com ?

KillerK 05-11-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markethustler (Post 15842360)
You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

http://www.datingactionnow.com/stats/stats.bmp

nice photoshop

KillerK 05-11-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rico2009 (Post 15842708)
You should definitely try sexinyourcity.com. We haven't been facing these issues.

Just hit me up on ICQ: 476746386

Sorry but $35 per sale is a joke.

KillerK 05-11-2009 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 15842377)
what sponsors are you promoting?

I'm still doing well with SexSearch, including paid campaigns.


May also want to check out the relatively new sexinyourcity.com in case you haven't already.

I don't see how you can do well with sexsearch, they convert free to paid more then 4x worse then almost any other sponsor. Free to Paid is not all that bad but good luck sending 5k uniques and making decent money with them.

Agent 488 05-11-2009 07:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15843291)
I don't see how you can do well with sexsearch, they convert free to paid more then 4x worse then almost any other sponsor. Free to Paid is not all that bad but good luck sending 5k uniques and making decent money with them.

he doesn't promote them. he was just spamming for his internet gf.

Kristian 05-11-2009 09:56 PM

A 40% drop is HUGE. Overall stats are looking good for us. Personally speaking, last two days have been my best this month.

I'm not saying this so you join us (there are lots of other good sponsors in this thread, too) but you should honestly review your own stuff. Sounds like something is broken. Same thing happens to me all the time.

KillerK 05-11-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristian (Post 15843471)
A 40% drop is HUGE. Overall stats are looking good for us. Personally speaking, last two days have been my best this month.

I'm not saying this so you join us (there are lots of other good sponsors in this thread, too) but you should honestly review your own stuff. Sounds like something is broken. Same thing happens to me all the time.

When you have 40% drops, what do you normally do and how is it fixed?

Diomed 05-12-2009 12:22 AM

I have been doing some tests lately,

and it does seem a lot slower.

The free joins remain consistent, but conversions are pretty relaxed right now.

I have been doing tests on SexSearch and Ulust for a minute now, and all of these inconsistencies are really making it difficult to gauge long term productivity. Especially if it isn't something customized.

I have also tried some ppc testing.. and all I can say is that this doesn't seem like a wise choice for adult dating in terms of conversions. I'm sure there are some good performing keywords but if your even slightly off the relativity of the subject with your kw's, you will get an ungodly amount of free joins that do not convert to paid :2 cents:

I'm just not used to waiting on sales to gauge productivity either, is there some kind of formula you can go by to ensure your not flying off into the red?

Kristian 05-12-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15843568)
When you have 40% drops, what do you normally do and how is it fixed?

Well, DatingGold never sees 40% drops. That would be an impossibly huge amount. I promote every sponsor going even though I work for DG and DG is consistently my top sponsor and has been for about half a decade.

Having said that I experience drops myself but never as high as 40%. Since I probably promote is different ways to you its impossible for me to say how you can fix the problem. All I can suggest is that it must be something your end because 40% across the board is just too much for it not to be.

I remember experiencing a drop in sales when I was a noob. It turned out I'd forgotten to renew a domain lol

So...for the record I wasnt talking about Dg experiencing a drop in sales. I was talking about myself. It usually means I fucked up somewhere.

g$$$ 05-12-2009 01:16 AM

Give us a HOLLA and try Fling.com out!

Vin 05-12-2009 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sharky (Post 15842828)
You are seeing the same % drops across all of your dating sponsors? I haven't seen any evidence of this on our end overall, especially from PPC/SEO.

Are you already promoting PimpMansion / HornyMatches.com ?

Just added you on ICQ, let's talk.

Vin 05-12-2009 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15843291)
I don't see how you can do well with sexsearch, they convert free to paid more then 4x worse then almost any other sponsor. Free to Paid is not all that bad but good luck sending 5k uniques and making decent money with them.

This has exactly been our problem as of lately, which is so weird because SexSearch has continued to BEAT every other sponsor for us. ..until a few weeks ago. Not sure what is going on over there..

But under 10 sales on 4k of PPC traffic is ridiculous. Free joins (our secondary KPI) have remained steady over the past weeks.

I'm ready to try some other offers.

voa 05-12-2009 02:45 AM

Hope will be better

polish_aristocrat 05-12-2009 07:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15843300)
he doesn't promote them.

I do :error

seeandsee 05-12-2009 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15843283)
nice photoshop

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ajrocks 05-12-2009 07:45 AM

Overall we have not seen a decrease in conversion at all. There are always some affiliates that have conversions go down but we are pretty much on par or better then we converted 6 months ago. Try us out. Hit me up and I'll make a custom deal for you to try us.

O MARINA 05-12-2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by budsbabes (Post 15843300)
he doesn't promote them. he was just spamming for his internet gf.

Do you want to see screenshots of our internet relationship? :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by polish_aristocrat (Post 15844335)
I do :error


Rico2009 05-12-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15843287)
Sorry but $35 per sale is a joke.

Just hit me up on ICQ and we'll work something out. :winkwink: That's only our beta phase payout.

pussyluver 05-12-2009 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by g$$$ (Post 15843740)
Give us a HOLLA and try Fling.com out!

I've seen the same as most in that the free joins remain constant and the conversion to pay has gone to hell. In the case of Fling, it went to 1:6xx in one period to 1:2898 right now. THREE emails asking for support went unanswered. An email to the webmaster was replied to with "I'll get back to ya today". Never heard back.

My average on free to pay was about 1:13 to 1:18 for a long while on dating. Now 1:50 is more typical.

So the logical answer is spread the traffic around and see which two or three come up with the best stats.

pussyluver 05-12-2009 10:39 AM

BTW April 09 for Fling

1-15: did 1:636
16-30: did 1:2295 - it was near the end of the period that some joins saved a much worse stat which prompted the emails to ask for help and question for a possible problem with stats reporting.

I don't make a practice of posting sponsor stats on boards. Total lack of class and all.

I am aware that RK is an advertiser. I of course have screen shots saved.

Penthouse Tony 05-12-2009 11:50 AM

Hit me up if you need help pushing Adult FriendFinder.

Jman 05-12-2009 12:11 PM

Numbers TALK!!!!

LonelyWifeHookUp is the new dating site in Town and as taken Over conversions!!!! :pimp

http://i40.tinypic.com/o5upw2.jpg

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pussyluver 05-12-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jean-Francois (Post 15845339)
Numbers TALK!!!!

LonelyWifeHookUp is the new dating site in Town and as taken Over conversions!!!! :pimp

http://i40.tinypic.com/o5upw2.jpg

SIGN UP TO LONELYWIFECASH NOW LET US MAKE YOU A PILE MONEY!


OK Jman, will give the new site a go for a few days and a portion of my dating traffic...

WatchingPorn 05-24-2009 01:00 AM

yeah mine is

WatchingPorn 05-24-2009 01:01 AM

or something

Diomed 05-25-2009 05:38 AM

I'm testing a couple of dating programs at the moment,

and I have noticed some very sharp contrast lately as well.

I was almost done with my sexsearch testing and right before I was about to take the plunge and really start sending it some traffic things got cut in half.

My free to paid ratio went from about 1:13 to 1:40.

The only reason it bothers me even a little bit is because how consistent it was before, I thought my feedback was solid enough to commit, and now I have to do more testing :(

IllTestYourGirls 05-25-2009 06:41 AM

I went from between 1/10 and 1/15 free with ulust to 1/480 last period. It is like all of a sudden free joins stopped. :mad:

Diomed 05-25-2009 07:34 AM

My 1:13 to 1:40 might not be accurate,

I think it's lower on both sides.

polle54 05-25-2009 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markethustler (Post 15842360)
You should join LoadedCash, Check out my stats then join through my signature below

http://www.datingactionnow.com/stats/stats.bmp

Are these stats for real?

1:54 these days is kinda unique.. You can buy very expensive traffic and still do extremely well.

My best sponsor is loadedcash as well but my traffic is low end traffic so my stats are not comparable to yours.

Ramos 05-25-2009 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vin (Post 15842319)
Hi,

I've been actively promoting adult dating via PPC and SEO for multiple sponsors. Since about 4 weeks, all the conversions are decreasing big time. Free joins have been stable, but the conversion from free to paid has been going to hell. I'd say about 40% decrease.

What are other people doing adult dating seeing?

Thanks..

Our programs are converting, very targeted sites/niches with great geo targeted tools and landing pages.
Give us a shot, I'll start you off at $40 per sale and we can go up from there.
Let's chat.

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polle54 05-25-2009 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by polle54 (Post 15887699)
Are these stats for real?

1:54 these days is kinda unique.. You can buy very expensive traffic and still do extremely well.

My best sponsor is loadedcash as well but my traffic is low end traffic so my stats are not comparable to yours.

I see you are a spammer... just read his poast threads. My best guess is he never made one single sale.


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