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Sarah_Jayne 05-20-2009 02:28 AM

Computer skills that have become 'lost arts'?
 
Things that you used to have to know to use a home or office PC but which people starting today probably don't know.

I will throw disk formatting in as my first offering. My college years are filled with memories of having to format my disks before saving my papers to them.

What are other lost arts of computing?

d-null 05-20-2009 02:37 AM

how about the old "ATDT" type commands to run modems to call up bbs's or other dialup sites way back when

voa 05-20-2009 02:41 AM

Ahh memories :) Technology go up very fast

xenigo 05-20-2009 02:41 AM

Um, the lost art of patience. I remember when I was in highschool, putting a copy of Windows NT 4.0 on 80 3.5" 1.44mb floppy disks - for archival purposes. What do you think are the chances of one of those 80 floppies having an error? :)

How about downloading a file off the Usenet using UUencode/UUdecode to look at a single pussy picture. I spent up to an hour downloading a single photo on my 14.4 modem.

Oh, and how about dialing into a BBS that doesn't have any sort of a PPP interface, and needing to run Trumpet Winsock with the most cryptic and complex custom script just to be able to have what most of us take for granted... an internet connection.

I remember running Netscape 1.0 for the first time on my Pentium 90, and nearly pissing my pants with excitement that I was able to experience this thing called the World Wide Web.

Then I have a vivid memory of surfing someone's site for pussy pics (do you notice a theme?) and seeing someone say "adult content has not, and will not ever exist on the Web... because it is too easily accessible to everyone" I nearly fell into a depression as a result of that. If I had only known what was to come...

pimpware 05-20-2009 02:48 AM

And high and low density floppy disks, remember ?


High density disks was a huge step :1orglaugh 1.2Mb of fucking storage :thumbsup


And how about a hack ? Remember ?

Transforming a low density into a high density disk, doubling the storage capacity.

Using a drill to do an extra hole on a low density, then format it and surprise surprise, you got a new High Density Floppy Disk !!

That's oldschool, which means I'm getting old :1orglaugh

xenigo 05-20-2009 02:54 AM

I don't remember ever knowing it was possible to turn a 720k 3.5" floppy into a 1.44mb floppy... there was never any differences in the two besides the hole?

That's odd.

seeandsee 05-20-2009 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 15869905)
Things that you used to have to know to use a home or office PC but which people starting today probably don't know.

I will throw disk formatting in as my first offering. My college years are filled with memories of having to format my disks before saving my papers to them.

What are other lost arts of computing?

formatting, making partition all via system floppy disk and fdisk tool :). Windows installation

pimpware 05-20-2009 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15869960)
I don't remember ever knowing it was possible to turn a 720k 3.5" floppy into a 1.44mb floppy... there was never any differences in the two besides the hole?

That's odd.

I just know that I did it a lot of times and always with sucess. That was an huge hack back on old days.
It was a 2 in 1 hack, :

1 - You just felt good to know you did it.

2 - Was a money thing, buying low density cheap disks and turn them into high density.

Sarah_Jayne 05-20-2009 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d-null (Post 15869928)
how about the old "ATDT" type commands to run modems to call up bbs's or other dialup sites way back when

That is a flash back..I used to be very into BBS fun.

Tom_PM 05-20-2009 08:10 AM

Using debug to low level format hard drives.

Rand 05-20-2009 09:09 AM

I remember programming in BASIC using line numbers. :1orglaugh



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cykoe6 05-20-2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15869937)
Oh, and how about dialing into a BBS that doesn't have any sort of a PPP interface, and needing to run Trumpet Winsock with the most cryptic and complex custom script just to be able to have what most of us take for granted... an internet connection.

Damn... the words "Trumpet Winsok" brings back a lot of painful memories.......... how I used to struggle with that shit. :1orglaugh

Sarah_Jayne 05-20-2009 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15871237)
Damn... the words "Trumpet Winsok" brings back a lot of painful memories.......... how I used to struggle with that shit. :1orglaugh

Now there is a name I haven't heard in years.

Rochard 05-20-2009 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand (Post 15871225)
I remember programming in BASIC using line numbers. :1orglaugh
.

Not to mention DOS.

D Ghost 05-20-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15869937)
error? :)
How about downloading a file off the Usenet using UUencode/UUdecode to look at a single pussy picture. I spent up to an hour downloading a single photo on my 14.4 modem.

LMFAO :1orglaugh :thumbsup

TOURKNOOK 05-20-2009 09:35 AM

having all my OS (DOS) and programs (wordstar, lotus) in one floppy disk :thumbsup

Zorgman 05-20-2009 09:36 AM

Rending a hi-res 800x600 3d image on a 4HMz machine.

I did this amazing car in 3d with refecting balls next to it. I pressed "render" and went away for the weekend. When I came back the message on the screen said "No light source found - Click to cancel". It didn't even start.
When I did click it, 1% was done in 5 hours. I canceled the process which took it 20 minutes to stop.

Oh the good old days.

Sarah_Jayne 05-20-2009 10:31 AM

I remember it taking me all night to download netscape only to have the connection drop 2 percent from the end.

Babaganoosh 05-20-2009 10:34 AM

Manually jerking with IRQs to resolve conflicts. That was always a hoot especially if you had a lot of devices.

Ace_luffy 05-20-2009 10:37 AM

i remember the 3.5 disk .... i guess i have 30 pieces of them

now... flash drive rocks , but still old schools is like an art

Tom_PM 05-20-2009 10:57 AM

Oh hell, I still have tons of 5.25" disks.

Runtime error 61 - Disk full :1orglaugh

czarina 05-20-2009 11:00 AM

how about spelling? not a computer art, but you certainly needed it back in the day. Not anymore thanks to Word :P

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 05-20-2009 11:07 AM

paying for slow ass internet by the hour

MaDalton 05-20-2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimpware (Post 15869950)
And high and low density floppy disks, remember ?


High density disks was a huge step :1orglaugh 1.2Mb of fucking storage :thumbsup


And how about a hack ? Remember ?

Transforming a low density into a high density disk, doubling the storage capacity.

Using a drill to do an extra hole on a low density, then format it and surprise surprise, you got a new High Density Floppy Disk !!

That's oldschool, which means I'm getting old :1orglaugh

or using a puncher to turn your single side 5 1/4" floppy into a double side floppy for your Commodore 1541 drive :winkwink:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand (Post 15871225)
I remember programming in BASIC using line numbers. :1orglaugh

.

10 print "Hello World!"
20 goto 10


Quote:

Originally Posted by cykoe6 (Post 15871237)
Damn... the words "Trumpet Winsok" brings back a lot of painful memories.......... how I used to struggle with that shit. :1orglaugh

that and patching Windows 95 for 32 bit programs


Quote:

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 15871596)
Manually jerking with IRQs to resolve conflicts. That was always a hoot especially if you had a lot of devices.

this i really hated, it once took me 2 weeks to make a scanner work


I would also like to add:

Trying to write a nice looking text with a program that does not support WYSIWYG and made your text look like HTML sourcecode. and then dealing with the frustration that it took 10 minutes to print one page on a 9 pin printer that sounded like fingernails on a blackboard at the volume of a starting 747. and at the end it still looked shitty :Oh crap

CyberHustler 05-20-2009 11:18 AM

Doing stuff without a mouse...

xenigo 05-20-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 15871742)
Oh hell, I still have tons of 5.25" disks.

Runtime error 61 - Disk full :1orglaugh

Sounds like you need to do some house cleaning! :1orglaugh

PurrrsianPussyKat 05-20-2009 11:50 AM

parking my hard drive before turning off my old 286. lol

Nautilus 05-20-2009 12:10 PM

Editing autoexec.bat

dready 05-20-2009 12:12 PM

Load "name" ,8,1

SifuE 05-20-2009 12:15 PM

floppy disk... shit i found some the other day i shit load probably with hot girls but you know what I dont have a floppy reader anymore.. lol

psbfo 05-20-2009 12:17 PM

Making webpages using a text editor! :1orglaugh

mikesouth 05-20-2009 12:46 PM

shit

CPM

Z80 assembly language

fortran

os/vs

vax 11/750 with Ultrix

IBM system 36

harvey 05-20-2009 12:50 PM

thinking. that's a lost art

SilentKnight 05-20-2009 01:00 PM

Designing ansi graphics for BBSes.

Telix for DOS (then later came Procomm for Windows).

My first copy of Nutscrape Navigator came on four 3.5 floppies (which took an hour to install on a PC-XT with 640k ram and a whopping 20mB harddrive.

Anyone remember the 'Turbo' button on the front of the PCs?

I still remember payin' $300 for an HP Colorado Travan tape drive back in the early 90s (which I later sold at a garage sale for $20 bucks, hehe).

My first USRobotics 14.4 modem card was longer than the motherboard itself.

Sarah_Jayne 05-21-2009 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15869937)
How about downloading a file off the Usenet using UUencode/UUdecode to look at a single pussy picture. I spent up to an hour downloading a single photo on my 14.4 modem.

I certainly do remember that and also that on a multi-node BBS you could often see what other people were downloading or had recently downloaded. That is fine unless you know the other people on the BBS in real life. There are times when I didn't want to know the kid sitting next to me in math class had downloaded horse porn the night before.

uno 05-21-2009 04:04 AM

Mobo jumpers and dipswitches for the most part.

CurrentlySober 05-21-2009 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rand (Post 15871225)
I remember programming in BASIC using line numbers. :1orglaugh



.

Yup ! I remember programming in basic too :)

Zorgman 05-21-2009 04:08 AM

What was that email type system in the BBS's. FIDO or something right?

the Shemp 05-21-2009 04:16 AM

copy *.* a:

Voodoo 05-21-2009 04:17 AM

Back Orifice, AOHell, Phreaking etc...

Sarah_Jayne 05-21-2009 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 15874637)
What was that email type system in the BBS's. FIDO or something right?

I still have real life friends that I originally met on Fidonet.

Fletch XXX 05-21-2009 04:26 AM

"logging on" to the internet

rowan 05-21-2009 04:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zorgman (Post 15874637)
What was that email type system in the BBS's. FIDO or something right?

Fight-o-net (Fidonet) is still around, although it's pretty small compared to its hey day. Many nodes use TCP/IP to transfer mail packets now.

rowan 05-21-2009 04:41 AM

I remember reading about a project in BYTE in the early-mid 80s where you could make a camera from memory chips that had a metal lid rather than being encapsulated in a monolithic plastic case. With a clear lid the dynamic RAM matrix became light sensitive and could be read out as grey levels. The whole thing was fiddly and required a LOT of circuitry for interfacing.

Now you just buy a $10 webcam and plug it into your USB port...

SilentKnight 05-21-2009 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 15874651)
I still have real life friends that I originally met on Fidonet.

Same here.

And if memory serves, we used BlueWave as a mail packet reader.

efp 05-21-2009 05:22 AM

basic, pascal command line programs.
.com extension executables!

optimizing autoexec.bat and config.sys to free up some RAM to run "newer" games.

feeling that 128 mb is A FREAKING LOT of diskspace!

considering it a big jump in capacity to change from 5.25" disks to 3 1/4"

the good old times :1orglaugh

Raf1 05-21-2009 06:02 AM

I remember using my apple macintosh where you had one floppy with the system and the other with the application you wanted to use. That was in the early 80's I think

buyandsell 05-21-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nautilus (Post 15872259)
Editing autoexec.bat

batch files in general

damn they were usefull
I actually used a batch file to process folders of content for my first adult sites!

MaDalton 05-21-2009 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 15872456)
Designing ansi graphics for BBSes.

Telix for DOS (then later came Procomm for Windows).

My first copy of Nutscrape Navigator came on four 3.5 floppies (which took an hour to install on a PC-XT with 640k ram and a whopping 20mB harddrive.

Anyone remember the 'Turbo' button on the front of the PCs?

I still remember payin' $300 for an HP Colorado Travan tape drive back in the early 90s (which I later sold at a garage sale for $20 bucks, hehe).

My first USRobotics 14.4 modem card was longer than the motherboard itself.



we bought a double speed CD Burner for the music studio i was working at that time (early 90ties). it had the size of a 19" 2 HE server and cost 5000 german marks at that time which is nowadays about $3500 USD

TrainWreckContent 05-21-2009 07:55 AM

anybody remamber zip drives from the 90's? I think the first ones cost around $200 and held 100mb


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