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MrLuvr 05-20-2009 10:16 AM

Reverse Shaving
 
How common is it?

I am currently promoting two programs that I suspect have reverse shaved. I got a quick sale on each one, right after I started sending them traffic. Now, a few thousand uniques later.. NOTHING.

Anybody else seen that happen?

After Shock Media 05-20-2009 03:02 PM

I hate divulging very common tricks of this business.

Reverse shaving is WAY more common than normal shaving. I would say maybe 100 to 1 or more. I have rarely found true evidence of real shaving in past few years and never in tiny programs. I have seen reverse shaving in programs of all sizes.

alias 05-20-2009 03:08 PM

But if you reverse shave, then shave.. . I mean that seems to be the way to go really.

Shap 05-20-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15873031)
I hate divulging very common tricks of this business.

Reverse shaving is WAY more common than normal shaving. I would say maybe 100 to 1 or more. I have rarely found true evidence of real shaving in past few years and never in tiny programs. I have seen reverse shaving in programs of all sizes.

I wouldn't say 100 to 1 but definitely way more common. Reverse shaving makes business sense. Shaving doesn't.

After Shock Media 05-20-2009 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 15873056)
I wouldn't say 100 to 1 but definitely way more common. Reverse shaving makes business sense. Shaving doesn't.

I am adding in all of the tiny programs that do it as well.
Even many of the small ccbill sponsors do it.

Cyber Fucker 05-20-2009 03:31 PM

that sucks :disgust

After Shock Media 05-20-2009 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 15873108)
that sucks :disgust

What about it sucks so much?

TeenCat 05-20-2009 03:43 PM

it is possible only at monday

xenigo 05-20-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbwebmaster (Post 15873108)
that sucks :disgust

I agree. It sucks to be given money. I send the shit back! Fuck money!

TeenCat 05-20-2009 03:51 PM

what about reverse sharing?

Quagmire 05-20-2009 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15873190)
I agree. It sucks to be given money. I send the shit back! Fuck money!

Are you retarded enough that it hurts, or are you just retarded to the point of being oblivious? We're all on the edge of our seats wanting to know.

alias 05-20-2009 03:55 PM

MrLuvr, can you open multiple accounts to confirm this for yourself? Then perhaps ask for the accounts to be merged. The reaction to this could confirm your suspicions. :2 cents:

xenigo 05-20-2009 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quagmire (Post 15873213)
Are you retarded enough that it hurts, or are you just retarded to the point of being oblivious? We're all on the edge of our seats wanting to know.

Take the cactus out of your ass, idiot. :2 cents:

_Richard_ 05-20-2009 04:04 PM

there is obvious ways to confirm if this is indeed true

tabasco 05-20-2009 04:08 PM

I've also noticed with a couple sponsors that I don't send much traffic to anymore. I'll look through my stats on their site for the first time in ages. No sales for months. What do you know 30 seconds after I have done that I get a sale. Magic!

bdld 05-20-2009 05:34 PM

yep i get sales after logging in if i havent logged in for a while and have had 0 sales for a long time.

EscortBiz 05-20-2009 05:38 PM

its called hipstering

letting a beard grow kinda

papagmp 05-20-2009 06:14 PM

Never shave against the grain as reverse shaving caused ingrown hairs that are very susceptible to infection.


WTF?

Quagmire 05-20-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo (Post 15873223)
Take the cactus out of your ass, idiot. :2 cents:

I'm sorry, does your mom want it back?

bronco67 05-20-2009 06:24 PM

I thought this thread was about some new shaving technique that would make my face smooth as a baby's ass.

gleem 05-20-2009 06:37 PM

well when you get a sale as soon as you start sending traffic, perhaps it's just that the one person on your site that perfectly fit the niche in the site you are promoting signed up right away, and the rest of your surfers don't give a crap. Happens to me over they years with my own sites trying a new traffic source, and I don't reverse shave myself ;)

alias 05-20-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gleem (Post 15873711)
well when you get a sale as soon as you start sending traffic, perhaps it's just that the one person on your site that perfectly fit the niche in the site you are promoting signed up right away, and the rest of your surfers don't give a crap. Happens to me over they years with my own sites trying a new traffic source, and I don't reverse shave myself ;)

New sells for a lot of people, it has a different "NEW" feel. Then perhaps the novelty wears off?

voa 05-20-2009 06:59 PM

hm im not sure that this is normal

Cyber Fucker 05-20-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by After Shock Media (Post 15873113)
What about it sucks so much?

I mean not that much :winkwink: everyone likes to get some $$ however, I don't like to be cheated in any way, even if it is so nice like this.

BV 05-20-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLuvr (Post 15871474)
How common is it?

Not real common, but if you want to sign up and send me a few sales real quick we can see what happens. :1orglaugh

Jdoughs 05-20-2009 08:17 PM

Webmaster gets sale, is still well under payout minimum, lets traffic stay at program or sends more for numerous reasons, mainly to get his payout.

Give one sale, to guarentee you get more, pretty simple concept, and yes it happens. I get sales from a couple programs 'out of nowhere' to remind me about them, amazing what a well played check can do.

BV 05-20-2009 08:52 PM

In all fairness, this scenario depends a lot on what kind of timeframe.

for example: you could have started promoting 6 months and got a couple sales back before the shit hit the fan.

the longer the time frame the more common, shorter less common

if you just started and you send 1000 hits a day i would keep my eye on it over the next couple days

ps: i don't think anyone is giving you sales to stimulate you to send more.

Raja 05-20-2009 09:03 PM

I don't "reverse shave" without informing the webmaster. Sometimes a good webmaster who sends joins on a regular basis hits a rough patch, and to keep them happy I'll add a few sales to their account. Also if I hit up a webmaster and ask them to try us out and our sites and their traffic are not a good fit I'll throw them a few sales just for trying us out.

the.drunk 05-20-2009 09:03 PM

happens alot

hypedough 05-20-2009 09:22 PM

Reverse shaving causes:

http://www.finchamfamily.com/Files/DSCN0304-shrunk.jpg

KillerK 05-20-2009 11:28 PM

If people give sales, what makes you think they don't take away sales?

rowan 05-20-2009 11:32 PM

I remember years ago, you emailed clickcash and said "something funny is up, I haven't made a sale this week when I would have normally made 5 by now." This usually resulted in a sale or two magically appearing... optionally a reply saying that everything looked fine. :1orglaugh

After Shock Media 05-21-2009 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15874269)
If people give sales, what makes you think they don't take away sales?

Because that makes no long term business sense and honestly it is not only way to easy to get caught ending up in a fucked reputation, it requires way to damn much work.

Especially when you can apply a few sales, force some extra payments and presto people start talking or sending even more traffic which results in better chances for the program. It also is very good at keeping traffic in place. When you see an affiliate who normally does a sale a day and then a few days of no sales, dropping in a sale or two keeps morale up and traffic flowing for whatever glitch there was.

seeandsee 05-21-2009 02:56 AM

now you will send all your traffic and they will shave you 3 sales :)

mn 05-21-2009 03:00 AM

i have seen way more real shaving than reverse shaving....

my fav reverse shaving was a new program i was about to start using... and i always do test sales myself... asked the sponsor if i could do this, they said No. First time ever I got that reply so all they got was one click when i tested the link. The day after I got a new sale email.

bhutocracy 05-21-2009 03:10 AM

I completely agree with aftershock.

Darkcrni 05-21-2009 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raja (Post 15874030)
I don't "reverse shave" without informing the webmaster. Sometimes a good webmaster who sends joins on a regular basis hits a rough patch, and to keep them happy I'll add a few sales to their account. Also if I hit up a webmaster and ask them to try us out and our sites and their traffic are not a good fit I'll throw them a few sales just for trying us out.


Can i ask you something where do you get this 'extra sales money'! to keep them happy!
Probably some other poor ranking WM is paying for them!
Or do you pay from your own pocket!

Really i wanna know!


:winkwink:

After Shock Media 05-21-2009 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkcrni (Post 15874565)
Can i ask you something where do you get this 'extra sales money'! to keep them happy!
Probably some other poor ranking WM is paying for them!
Or do you pay from your own pocket!

Really i wanna know!


:winkwink:

From type in sales, self generated sales, etc.
Any solid program produces at very least half if not way more of their own sales.
Just so you know it happens on revshare as well and yes they keep the rebill - assuming it does.

CurrentlySober 05-21-2009 04:10 AM

I prefer 'Reverse Shitting...'

You know... When you shit in a condom and freeze it... Then stuff it up a girls ass !

PS: I like poo... :)

Lightning 05-21-2009 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KillerK (Post 15874269)
If people give sales, what makes you think they don't take away sales?

Of course they do and anyone that thinks they don't is an idiot.:2 cents::helpme

ShellyCrash 05-21-2009 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 15873590)
its called hipstering

letting a beard grow kinda

LOL!!! Beardos drive me crazy!


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