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V_RocKs 05-29-2009 09:11 AM

Microsofts BING and what it means to you...
 
By June 6th Microsoft is supposed to replace their Live search with BING. Would be nice to see what this means for porn. If it means Google like results with a lot more of the sponsors sites making the top spot I know of at least one affiliate that makes a minimum of $250K a year on his SEO results will now make $20K a year on them if lucky.

Could this be the end of black hatting your way to the top of MSN?

JimmiDean 05-29-2009 09:21 AM

Could happen.
It could also be a complete wash like their last search engine.

Agent 488 05-29-2009 09:24 AM

i thought they were going to team with yahoo for a new engine?

Zorgman 05-29-2009 09:26 AM

It could go the other way too. from $250k to $500k, but i dough it.

V_RocKs 05-29-2009 09:34 AM

Yahoo is also coming out with a new engine soon...

So that black hat game is going out the window too.

Fat Panda 05-29-2009 10:39 AM

Bing will suckass

slapass 05-29-2009 10:45 AM

Live loves spam so why would Bing be different? But with 8% of the market very few of us will even notice them.

V_RocKs 05-29-2009 12:01 PM

I know of an affiliate that basically put 98% of his marketing strategy into LIVE search... BING does not handle indexing or results like LIVE does. It is almost like a cross between google and that quaferam alpha crap.

Snake Doctor 05-29-2009 12:07 PM

Anything black hat had to be considered temporary. Anyone who made long term plans based on black hat SEO money is a tool.

As an independent webmaster, I'll be happy to see real web sites with real content getting the top spots for their relevant search phrases.
As opposed to the guy who knew the most tricks or had the best programmer to crack an algorithm or whatever.

mynameisjim 05-29-2009 12:17 PM

I heard it will have categories and the results will be broken down into usable groups, depending on exactly what you are looking for.

They are also launching a pretty big ad campaign to go along with it.

I don't really like the name, reminds me of the 90's and that chandler bing character from Friends, which I hated.

But never count Microsoft out. They were thought of as a joke in the gaming industry and nobody thought the Playstation could ever be dethroned, now the PS3 is a borderline failure, their CEO in charge of gaming resigned in disgrace, and the PS3 is even behind the Wii in sales.

Ditto Internet Explorer and Netscape.

bbobby86 05-29-2009 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15905409)
Yahoo is also coming out with a new engine soon...

So that black hat game is going out the window too.

but soooooon... it would take much time to build...:thumbsup

SayWhut 05-29-2009 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC (Post 15905623)
Bing will suckass

Yep. Just like when Microsoft developed MsDewey. It was fun for all of 2 minutes.


They need to learn that they cannot create successful software, even if their life depended on it.

If they have trouble making a stable web browser, what does that tell you about their operating system.

Every time you buy or use a Microsoft product, you are funding terrorism.

mozadek 05-29-2009 01:10 PM

Bada Bing, Bada Boom

woj 05-29-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15905936)
I know of an affiliate that basically put 98% of his marketing strategy into LIVE search...

sucks to be him :2 cents:

Socks 05-29-2009 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayWhut (Post 15906165)
Yep. Just like when Microsoft developed MsDewey. It was fun for all of 2 minutes.


They need to learn that they cannot create successful software, even if their life depended on it.

If they have trouble making a stable web browser, what does that tell you about their operating system.

Every time you buy or use a Microsoft product, you are funding terrorism.

Say what?

The largest and most successful software company of all time bar none "cannot create successful software" ?

You're trying so hard to be right that all logic, facts and figures have been tossed aside!

You're probably reading this in... windows. I'm writing it in windows.

I haven't used IE in a long time, admittedly, it's always been garbage.

However when I look back on my Atari, Amiga, Tandy and IBM AT/XT days, Microsoft rode in like a white knight and wowed us. Seeing Windows 2.0 for the first time? Amazing. MS Word vs Wordperfect 5.1? Amazing. Windows 3.1? Very advanced for the time. Plus I've always loved their mice and keyboards.

And because of Microsoft's success (and lax stance on piracy of their software) thousands of other companies were able to hop on the gold train and make some cool stuff too. We have a lot to be thankful for.

Socks 05-29-2009 01:22 PM

PS: Last week they were calling this "Kumo"? Or is that wrong, or is this wrong, or is that something else altogether?

SayWhut 05-29-2009 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Socks (Post 15906216)
Say what?

The largest and most successful software company of all time bar none "cannot create successful software" ?

You're trying so hard to be right that all logic, facts and figures have been tossed aside!

You're probably reading this in... windows. I'm writing it in windows.

I haven't used IE in a long time, admittedly, it's always been garbage.

However when I look back on my Atari, Amiga, Tandy and IBM AT/XT days, Microsoft rode in like a white knight and wowed us. Seeing Windows 2.0 for the first time? Amazing. MS Word vs Wordperfect 5.1? Amazing. Windows 3.1? Very advanced for the time. Plus I've always loved their mice and keyboards.

And because of Microsoft's success (and lax stance on piracy of their software) thousands of other companies were able to hop on the gold train and make some cool stuff too. We have a lot to be thankful for.

LOL Wordperfect reminds me of the Amiga days. You gotta admit, workbench kicked ass.

But Microsoft, they only got where they are now because of how they took a shit over the open source community. They bought the source code for DOS off some hobbyist programmer just to impress IBM at the time. Microsoft did not create their own success. IBM did. Microsoft just used a different business strategy at the time. It wasn't due to the quality of their software.

Snake Doctor 05-29-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayWhut (Post 15906240)
LOL Wordperfect reminds me of the Amiga days. You gotta admit, workbench kicked ass.

But Microsoft, they only got where they are now because of how they took a shit over the open source community. They bought the source code for DOS off some hobbyist programmer just to impress IBM at the time. Microsoft did not create their own success. IBM did. Microsoft just used a different business strategy at the time. It wasn't due to the quality of their software.

1998 called. They want their whining back.

TheDoc 05-29-2009 02:25 PM

It's not a big deal for BH's... The engines are always changing.

But more importantly.... someone makes $250k from MSN? That's a lot of freakin listings.. I have had several #1 slots on some prime words and I haven't received enough traffic to come close to earning that, across the board, on MSN listings..

Jeppe 05-29-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15905963)
As an independent webmaster, I'll be happy to see real web sites with real content getting the top spots for their relevant search phrases.
As opposed to the guy who knew the most tricks or had the best programmer to crack an algorithm or whatever.

Fucking amen to that :thumbsup

SayWhut 05-29-2009 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 15906423)
1998 called. They want their whining back.


Bill Gates called. He wants you to pop round to suck him off.

harvey 05-29-2009 05:11 PM

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavendar/...18/bing_th.gif

$5 submissions 06-08-2009 07:36 PM

MSN's SE was more forgiving than Google. Converts better as well.

Anyway, I'm watching my Analytics stats closely to see if there's any difference.

$5 submissions 06-08-2009 07:38 PM

Comparing MSN to Bing right now from Analytics:

Bing has a lower bounce rate. Longer retention time. We'll see if this continues.

Click Obey 06-08-2009 08:14 PM

Black hats are supposed to be consistently adapting their tactics to stay competitive and a lot view their strategies as short term. Those who are willing to adapt will still make money.

Basic_man 06-08-2009 08:21 PM

I have a mainstream site who had some daily hits from MSN, but since May 30th... NOTHING!

FightThisPatent 06-08-2009 08:24 PM

content is king!


Fight the tastes great, less filling!

Smokieflame 06-08-2009 11:29 PM

all i have to say is Mac...

tiger 06-09-2009 12:41 AM

Bing is doing well.

$5 submissions 06-09-2009 07:03 PM

Many of my blogs are doing well with Bing. Not all. But enough :)


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