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dyna mo 06-03-2009 08:10 AM

what do you think about the depth of field of this picture?[pic]
 
how is such a narrow DOF done? what camera settings would you guess for this? fstop, shutter, focal length?? is a DOF preview required to get such a shot?

http://content6.novoporn.com/g18483/10.jpg

u-Bob 06-03-2009 08:13 AM

*insert pic of blind person*

stickyfingerz 06-03-2009 08:24 AM

Sorry thats done in post. Well part of it was done by the camera but not all of it. You can see the image if you open it in a new tab.

dyna mo 06-03-2009 08:31 AM

is the pic nt showing in the thread? it is here eh.

anyhoo, here it is hosted elsewhere.

http://filefap.com/pfiles/37940/fd.jpg

Twistys Tim 06-03-2009 08:34 AM

still no photo...

dyna mo 06-03-2009 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twistys Tim (Post 15920328)
still no photo...

totally bizarre, hosted at 2 different places and i can see them in the thread.

lolz, oh well.

420 06-03-2009 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 15920282)
*insert pic of blind person*

I'll describe this for those of us who are blind.

There is a picture of Ray Charles playing piano. His glasses have cleverly been turned into red x's and there is a caption that reads "Can't see shit".

dyna mo 06-03-2009 08:44 AM

3rd host

http://www.uploadbabe.com/images/268_fgsf.jpg

stickyfingerz 06-03-2009 08:46 AM

Yes done in post quite easily. Thats a diff pic than the first one you posted though. From the same set though.

munki 06-03-2009 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 15920336)
I'll describe this for those of us who are blind.

There is a picture of Ray Charles playing piano. His glasses have cleverly been turned into red x's and there is a caption that reads "Can't see shit".

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

UFGators2007 06-03-2009 09:17 AM

I see it now...and its hot!

Grapesoda 06-03-2009 09:19 AM

looks like alienskin bokeh was used

Sebastian Sands 06-03-2009 09:27 AM

Randy West hospitalized.. wish him the best!
 
total mistake

stickyfingerz 06-03-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 15920445)
looks like alienskin bokeh was used

Done just as easily by creating a new layer with blur, then erasing the portion you want unblurred.

quantum-x 06-03-2009 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15920470)
Done just as easily by creating a new layer with blur, then erasing the portion you want unblurred.

Not really. That gives you a two dimensional blur. DOF is 3D ;)

NaughtyRob 06-03-2009 09:32 AM

Looks like in post to me, why they would want to blur the pussy in that pic is beyond me.

pornguy 06-03-2009 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15920479)
Not really. That gives you a two dimensional blur. DOF is 3D ;)

If thats a 3d blurr its a bit on the soft side as its really hard to see it that way. At least on my screen. To me it looks more like a new layer with a blur like sticky said..

MaskedMan 06-03-2009 09:36 AM

Zoom macro:

Same effect on a quarter
forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=31912819

stickyfingerz 06-03-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15920479)
Not really. That gives you a two dimensional blur. DOF is 3D ;)

To me it just looks like the blur layer was erased with a softened edge. But I bow to Quantums experience as I could be wrong. :winkwink:

woj 06-03-2009 09:43 AM

I thought you just need a "fast" lens for that...

JP-pornshooter 06-03-2009 09:44 AM

shoot at 2.8F, lens wide open.. focus on her eyes, re-compose.

quantum-x 06-03-2009 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15920525)
To me it just looks like the blur layer was erased with a softened edge. But I bow to Quantums experience as I could be wrong. :winkwink:

I could very easily be wrong, but here's what I see

Look at her eyelashes (in focus) and the top of her hand - spatially, these are in the same distance from the camera, and in focus.

Now, on her left hand (our right) go down the finger-tips: each one is progressively more blurred / out of focus than the previous, working all the way back to the back of the scene.

If this is faked DOF, it's very well done - because it's correct in terms of spacial positioning.

But I could be wrong :)

quantum-x 06-03-2009 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaskedMan (Post 15920499)
Zoom macro:

Same effect on a quarter
forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=31912819

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh It's not a macro lens you twit!
It's just someone shooting w/ a high aperture (probably like 2.8)

The Duck 06-03-2009 09:53 AM

I dont like that picture anyway.

seeandsee 06-03-2009 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Duck (Post 15920552)
I dont like that picture anyway.

looks like pussy fail :)

stickyfingerz 06-03-2009 10:07 AM

I only spent like 2 mins on this, but here is the original

http://stickyedits.com/dof1.jpg

Quick duplicate layer, gaussian blur, then erase the area you want in focus, then take the blur tool to the area you want to further blur to make it appear more depth of field like. not perfect, but I know there are a lot of people out there that do this is post and have their technique down much better.

http://stickyedits.com/dof2.jpg

Opps forgot to unblur the watermark lol. And couldn't find a pic that would better suit it. But someone can pretty easily do this in post I thinks.

dyna mo 06-03-2009 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 15920533)
shoot at 2.8F, lens wide open.. focus on her eyes, re-compose.

when you say "lens wide open" do you mean full telephoto?

i find it hard to get such a narrow DOF at focal lengths <80ish.

dyna mo 06-03-2009 10:20 AM

also, what's the proper distance away to achieve this DOF .

thx :-)

quantum-x 06-03-2009 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15920595)
I only spent like 2 mins on this, but here is the original

http://stickyedits.com/dof1.jpg

Quick duplicate layer, gaussian blur, then erase the area you want in focus, then take the blur tool to the area you want to further blur to make it appear more depth of field like. not perfect, but I know there are a lot of people out there that do this is post and have their technique down much better.

http://stickyedits.com/dof2.jpg

Opps forgot to unblur the watermark lol. And couldn't find a pic that would better suit it. But someone can pretty easily do this in post I thinks.

It's obviously fake too ;)

stickyfingerz 06-03-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quantum-x (Post 15920691)
It's obviously fake too ;)

hehe well ya. But point being I know there are a lot that either fake or enhance dof. As do you, btw been wanting to show some of your stuff off to a friend of mine, you should do a new thread, or post some pics in the photography thread I started the other day you posted in. Or just post a link to where I can show her some of your stuff. :thumbsup

JP-pornshooter 06-03-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 15920625)
when you say "lens wide open" do you mean full telephoto?

i find it hard to get such a narrow DOF at focal lengths <80ish.

lens wide open = 2.8 f
would think the photo was shot with a 70-200 2.8f lens of some sort
so yes telephoto zoom lens, most likely near the 200mm end of the lens

V_RocKs 06-03-2009 12:12 PM

Shoot it with my cock and it won't look the same but it'll look even better!

Deej 06-03-2009 12:18 PM

The original is NOT a faked DOF...

Dont even question yoruself Quantum :pimp

http://www.lumpyimages.com/pinktree.jpg

All about the aperture/exposure :thumbsup

rowan 06-03-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 15920633)
also, what's the proper distance away to achieve this DOF .

thx :-)

It's really the lens aperture (how much light is let in) that determines the DoF, not the distance to the subject. A smaller f- number will result in more DoF blurring, but it also needs more careful focussing.

Wide open means literally that, the aperture diaphragm inside the lens is wide open.

quantum-x 06-03-2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stickyfingerz (Post 15920700)
hehe well ya. But point being I know there are a lot that either fake or enhance dof. As do you, btw been wanting to show some of your stuff off to a friend of mine, you should do a new thread, or post some pics in the photography thread I started the other day you posted in. Or just post a link to where I can show her some of your stuff. :thumbsup

Most stuff is now online on my dump, in a much more friendly format:
http://www.ninjito.com :)

burntfilm 06-03-2009 02:12 PM

that first one looks like he shot it that way, Whether he intended to or not is beyond me.

dyna mo 06-03-2009 02:20 PM

thanks for the inputs everyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by rowan (Post 15921258)
It's really the lens aperture (how much light is let in) that determines the DoF, not the distance to the subject. A smaller f- number will result in more DoF blurring, but it also needs more careful focussing.

Wide open means literally that, the aperture diaphragm inside the lens is wide open.

i agree that these 2 aspects are quite important but focal length and distances must be figured in to the equation if one is out to achieve DOF type shots.

for instance, f2.8 at 18mm will not have the DOF of f2.8 at 20mm focal length, in fact, most any aperture at wide angles will keep the background relatively focused.

JP-pornshooter 06-03-2009 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 15921321)
thanks for the inputs everyone



i agree that these 2 aspects are quite important but focal length and distances must be figured in to the equation if one is out to achieve DOF type shots.

for instance, f2.8 at 18mm will not have the DOF of f2.8 at 20mm focal length, in fact, most any aperture at wide angles will keep the background relatively focused.

most lenses come with DOF charts where you can see the DOF range at various f stops and zoomed positions..or you can look it up online.
i used to do shoots for Barely Legal magz, they want everything flat, the entire image in focus.. in order to do that you have to shoot at f9-f11 with most glass and never zoom in more than probably 60mm
most adult web photogs shoot at f5.6 unless they are doing something special..

SilentKnight 06-03-2009 04:01 PM

A favorite DOF shot a few summers back.


http://www.fetishopolis.com/kap-images/skkap761.jpg

420 06-03-2009 04:14 PM

Depth of field is hot.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2h4ltzc.jpg

JP513 06-03-2009 05:35 PM

A Quick DOF lesson
 
Assuming you don't want to post-process all your DOF needs, here's how to achieve shallow depth of field optically:

f/2.8 isn't large enough unless the focused and non-focused area are farther apart than I see in this picture. For a human body to both in and out of focus, I would go at least to f/1.8, and 1.4 if you can.

Wide angle lenses won't work too well. Although a tele lens in needed, the factor that really determines DOF is the ratio of how far away the out of focus are is to the focused area, relative to the ratio of the how far away the focused are is to the lens. In other words, if you're 200 feet away from the in focus subject, and the intended defocus are is only 2 feet, it won't be very much out of focus--that's only 1%. However, if you're much closer, like 10 feet away from the focused area, the intended defocus area still 2 feet, that's fully 20%. That should really throw the background out of focus, especially with a f/1.4 lens.

Given the environment in this pic, 50mm, which has the same field of view as a 75mm lens on a cropped sensor, could work fine if you're 8-12 feet away. Bottom line, get as close as you can without resorting to wide angles and try to fill the frame.

Shutter speed doesn't have anything to do with DOF whatsoever. But obviously it's important for proper exposure, which is always fundamental.v:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: 6 cents baby

Deej 06-03-2009 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP513 (Post 15921877)
Assuming you don't want to post-process all your DOF needs, here's how to achieve shallow depth of field optically:

f/2.8 isn't large enough unless the focused and non-focused area are farther apart than I see in this picture. For a human body to both in and out of focus, I would go at least to f/1.8, and 1.4 if you can.

Wide angle lenses won't work too well. Although a tele lens in needed, the factor that really determines DOF is the ratio of how far away the out of focus are is to the focused area, relative to the ratio of the how far away the focused are is to the lens. In other words, if you're 200 feet away from the in focus subject, and the intended defocus are is only 2 feet, it won't be very much out of focus--that's only 1%. However, if you're much closer, like 10 feet away from the focused area, the intended defocus area still 2 feet, that's fully 20%. That should really throw the background out of focus, especially with a f/1.4 lens.

Given the environment in this pic, 50mm, which has the same field of view as a 75mm lens on a cropped sensor, could work fine if you're 8-12 feet away. Bottom line, get as close as you can without resorting to wide angles and try to fill the frame.

Shutter speed doesn't have anything to do with DOF whatsoever. But obviously it's important for proper exposure, which is always fundamental.v:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: 6 cents baby

:pimp:pimp

voa 06-03-2009 06:35 PM

No picture for me here, cant see that picture

dyna mo 06-04-2009 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP513 (Post 15921877)
Assuming you don't want to post-process all your DOF needs, here's how to achieve shallow depth of field optically:

f/2.8 isn't large enough unless the focused and non-focused area are farther apart than I see in this picture. For a human body to both in and out of focus, I would go at least to f/1.8, and 1.4 if you can.

Wide angle lenses won't work too well. Although a tele lens in needed, the factor that really determines DOF is the ratio of how far away the out of focus are is to the focused area, relative to the ratio of the how far away the focused are is to the lens. In other words, if you're 200 feet away from the in focus subject, and the intended defocus are is only 2 feet, it won't be very much out of focus--that's only 1%. However, if you're much closer, like 10 feet away from the focused area, the intended defocus area still 2 feet, that's fully 20%. That should really throw the background out of focus, especially with a f/1.4 lens.

Given the environment in this pic, 50mm, which has the same field of view as a 75mm lens on a cropped sensor, could work fine if you're 8-12 feet away. Bottom line, get as close as you can without resorting to wide angles and try to fill the frame.

Shutter speed doesn't have anything to do with DOF whatsoever. But obviously it's important for proper exposure, which is always fundamental.v:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: 6 cents baby

good stuff!
:thumbsup

Iron Fist 06-04-2009 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JP513 (Post 15921877)
Assuming you don't want to post-process all your DOF needs, here's how to achieve shallow depth of field optically:

f/2.8 isn't large enough unless the focused and non-focused area are farther apart than I see in this picture. For a human body to both in and out of focus, I would go at least to f/1.8, and 1.4 if you can.

Wide angle lenses won't work too well. Although a tele lens in needed, the factor that really determines DOF is the ratio of how far away the out of focus are is to the focused area, relative to the ratio of the how far away the focused are is to the lens. In other words, if you're 200 feet away from the in focus subject, and the intended defocus are is only 2 feet, it won't be very much out of focus--that's only 1%. However, if you're much closer, like 10 feet away from the focused area, the intended defocus area still 2 feet, that's fully 20%. That should really throw the background out of focus, especially with a f/1.4 lens.

Given the environment in this pic, 50mm, which has the same field of view as a 75mm lens on a cropped sensor, could work fine if you're 8-12 feet away. Bottom line, get as close as you can without resorting to wide angles and try to fill the frame.

Shutter speed doesn't have anything to do with DOF whatsoever. But obviously it's important for proper exposure, which is always fundamental.v:2 cents::2 cents::2 cents: 6 cents baby

Out of the fucking way people! Professional coming though.... :thumbsup:thumbsup

Dood 06-04-2009 08:35 AM

Does this one have DOF or just strange blur?

I actually removed the lens and held it up backwards to emulate a macro lens. That's why it shows the aperture at zero.
http://www.retnuh.com/files/echinacea.jpg

dyna mo 06-04-2009 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15923386)
Out of the fucking way people! Professional coming though.... :thumbsup:thumbsup

no shit eh. now i just have to find a f/1.4 telephoto! i'm thnkng of picking up the 85mm f/1.8

the only nikon lens i can find with 1.4 is a 50mm

JP513 06-04-2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 15923386)
Out of the fucking way people! Professional coming though.... :thumbsup:thumbsup

LOL, thanks for the props, you and 2 others. I hope it helps explain DOF better. :thumbsup I'm actually not a professional, though I shoot like one! :winkwink:

JP513 06-04-2009 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 15923734)
no shit eh. now i just have to find a f/1.4 telephoto! i'm thnkng of picking up the 85mm f/1.8

the only nikon lens i can find with 1.4 is a 50mm

Hey man. You can get a Sigma 30mm that has an f/1.4 that works for Nikon and I think they have a Canon mount too. The 50/1.4 is a great lens if you can drop the benjamins on it.

The 85/1.8 is an outstanding lens. I might get one but for now, an 80-200/2.8 meets most of my needs. And I have a 50/1.8 so if I need 85mm and f/1.8, I use the 50mm, and walk backwards!:pimp

Don't sweat it if you can't drop the cash on an f/1.4. I think you can get a 50/1.8 for around $125. A 1.4 costs a lot more, but often is worth it.

JP-pornshooter 06-04-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 15923734)
no shit eh. now i just have to find a f/1.4 telephoto! i'm thnkng of picking up the 85mm f/1.8

the only nikon lens i can find with 1.4 is a 50mm

f1.8 - 85mm is a fine prime lens...
good luck with it and dont forget to show us the outcome of your studies.


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