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whatif_3 06-11-2009 08:06 AM
Adult processor GTBill shut down by feds
 
WASHINGTON (AP) -- An advocacy group for online poker said Tuesday that the federal government has frozen more than $30 million in the accounts of payment processors that handle the winnings of thousands of online poker players.

In a letter dated Friday and faxed to Alliance Bank, the prosecutor said accounts held by payment processor Allied Systems Inc. are subject to seizure and forfeiture "because they constitute property involved in money laundering transactions and illegal gambling offenses."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/APNews...-15481559.html


Allied Systems sells in Adult under GTbill.com, they lost their mastercard privileges some months ago

gtbill site is down. RIP

count of monte cristo 06-11-2009 08:15 AM
GTBill is an IPSP which offers credit card processing solutions for eCommerce websites. We provide payment processing, merchant accounts, and third party billing with low rates, 24 hour setup, reliability and security.

their site is up

CyberHustler 06-11-2009 08:15 AM
:Oh crap:Oh crap

SBJ 06-11-2009 08:16 AM
wow going to read that now

dready 06-11-2009 08:16 AM
Damn. Is ePass still doing this? I hope not.

JFK 06-11-2009 08:19 AM
SAD........... Really SAD:2 cents:

Honez 06-11-2009 08:21 AM
The link to the story isn't working for me.

Mr.Right - Banned For Life 06-11-2009 08:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dready (Post 15948039)
Damn. Is ePass still doing this? I hope not.
what? :helpme

HorseShit 06-11-2009 08:25 AM
boom shakalaka

pornguy 06-11-2009 08:27 AM
YEah and they think they are safe because they are NOT in the US.

whatif_3 06-11-2009 08:37 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Honez (Post 15948061)
The link to the story isn't working for me.
works for me, try this google search for allied systems + poker, to get a list of news aggregators

http://www.google.com/search?q=Allie...e7&rlz=1I7GGQD

AsianDivaGirlsWebDude 06-11-2009 08:55 AM
Who wants to bet that there are a lot of pissed off poker players out there...

That's more money than the iBill debacle. :helpme

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...r-about-to.jpg

That's why I stick to strip poker - even if I lose my shirt, I still have money. :upsidedow

ADG

Manowar 06-11-2009 09:04 AM
wow, i wonder if anyone will get their cash

Webmaster Army 06-11-2009 09:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AsianDivaGirlsWebDude (Post 15948253)
Who wants to bet that there are a lot of pissed off poker players out there...

That's more money than the iBill debacle. :helpme

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/g...r-about-to.jpg

That's why I stick to strip poker - even if I lose my shirt, I still have money. :upsidedow

ADG
The poker sites just eat these losses for now. These were payments scheduled to go out to poker players, they will be reimbursed.

ScottAtGTBill 06-11-2009 09:11 AM
Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.

Phoenix 06-11-2009 09:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948365)
Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.
you should work on your pr skills

keeping an eye on this thread for sure

TheAmericanCannibal 06-11-2009 09:24 AM
May I offer my PR services to GT Bill?
I think some good spin will be needed here for sure.


Andy u should really call me.

TheDoc 06-11-2009 09:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948365)
Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.
iBill said the same thing..

Oracle Porn 06-11-2009 09:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948365)
Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ZO5KHWCY48..._bob_large.gif

whatif_3 06-11-2009 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948365)
Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that.
i was pretty careful to do that

the only "Allied Systems" payment processor on google is:

http://www.alliedsystems.net/

GTBill actually is part of a larger company, Allied Systems, which has been in the payment processing business for more than five years, processing for standard e-commerce companies, as well as some adult merchants.
http://www.xbiz.com/articles/93283

Same IP for both GTbill.com and Alliedsystems.net

ScottAtGTBill 06-11-2009 09:43 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by whatif_3 (Post 15948469)
i was pretty careful to do that

the only "Allied Systems" payment processor on google is:

http://www.alliedsystems.net/

GTBill actually is part of a larger company, Allied Systems, which has been in the payment processing business for more than five years, processing for standard e-commerce companies, as well as some adult merchants.
http://www.xbiz.com/articles/93283

Same IP for both GTbill.com and Alliedsystems.net
I was referring to the GTBill being shutdown. As you can notice, none of our sites are down. The only thing that was affected was our ACH services, and that was only for a few days.

FilthyRob 06-11-2009 09:46 AM
Hope my pokerstars money is still good

whatif_3 06-11-2009 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948550)
I was referring to the GTBill being shutdown. As you can notice, none of our sites are down.
when i checked your site out this morning it was down, its now back up, my bad

Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948550)
The only thing that was affected was our ACH services, and that was only for a few days.
thats good to hear, the media always makes it sound more ominous

jakethedog 06-11-2009 09:57 AM
Ok .. I need someone from GTBill or Allied wallet to contact me immediately .. please ..

JFK 06-11-2009 09:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 15948401)
you should work on your pr skills

keeping an eye on this thread for sure
:thumbsup:thumbsup

jakethedog 06-11-2009 10:03 AM
Talking with them right now .. We'll get to the bottom of this sillyness .. ;)

jakethedog 06-11-2009 10:06 AM
Ok .. they just lost ach processing .. does NOT effect CC processing ..

jakethedog 06-11-2009 10:07 AM
Ok .. they just lost ach processing .. does NOT effect CC processing .. done move along ..

weird double post .. sorry

Sosa 06-11-2009 10:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 15948401)
you should work on your pr skills

keeping an eye on this thread for sure
I thought the same thing when I read the reply. wow

atom 06-11-2009 10:15 AM
I don't use GTbill and most likley never will, however, by the thread title and the fact that its not true I would be pissed if I was Scott.

Did he handle it wrong? Yeah. Pretty damaging thread title though to say a company is shut down when its not. Especially when people already have a bad taste in their mouth from previous processors.

I dont think he needs to be crucified for his response. Once again people making mountains out of a molehill.

derek_gtbill 06-11-2009 10:15 AM
Jake is correct, as I was just speaking with him.

We have only lost our ACH processing right now, which is totally seperate from CC Processing. GTBill and Alliedwallet is up and running, and we are now totally focused on our credit card processing. If anyone has any questions, you can contact me at anytime.

Derek Baehr

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Iron Fist 06-11-2009 10:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by derek_gtbill (Post 15948697)
Derek Baehr

1.888.889.0788 - Office
1.480.302.9959 ? Direct
1.602.373.3300 - Cell
1.480.304.3434 - Fax
[email protected]
[email protected] - msn
derekatsurreal ? AIM
484887383 - ICQ
derek.baehr - Skype
I've seen sigs in my day.. but I think you've got more ways than god to contact you right there.... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

buck30 06-11-2009 11:20 AM
Expect more of this from the control your life, do as I say, not as I do Obama Admin.

JimmiDean 06-11-2009 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948365)
Please check you facts before you spout off bullshit like that. GTBill is alive and well, and always we are still offering some of the lowest rates in the business.
I hope that is not the official company reply.:(

Barefootsies 06-11-2009 11:51 AM
First Jettis, now these guys.

:Oh crap

ScottAtGTBill 06-11-2009 12:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmiDean (Post 15949260)
I hope that is not the official company reply.:(
Hah, no it definitely is not. Total PR fail and I do apologize for the inappropriate and rash response.

JimmiDean 06-11-2009 12:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15949363)
Hah, no it definitely is not. Total PR fail and I do apologize for the inappropriate and rash response.
No worries,
If it was my company I am sure I would have gone off far worse.:thumbsup

ReGGs 06-11-2009 12:23 PM
Yeah just another case of not having all the facts before putting up the inflammatory thread. No biggie though it sparks conversation and usually the real story makes it's way out. That being said the whole no online poker thing is just stupid. It's not clogging the series of tubes. The only thing being clogged is the politicians pockets with that special money which makes them think online gambling is a bad idea for almost no good reason. For example: Betting on horses online is legal but poker is not. It is still gambling. Doesn't make any sense.

jcsike 06-11-2009 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by atom (Post 15948696)
I don't use GTbill and most likley never will, however, by the thread title and the fact that its not true I would be pissed if I was Scott.

Pretty damaging thread title though to say a company is shut down when its not. Especially when people already have a bad taste in their mouth from previous processors.
in this industry, with processors, you have to police them yourselves. No processor is going to admit they are having trouble, because when that happens, their incentive is to save their own business and they tend to use their clients funds for that purpose and/or their own income.

by the time they admit and apologize that there are payment issues, nobody is going to get anything.

however, if your one of the early ones that demands their money, they will give it to you in order for you not to make a stink about it

some people got all their money from ibill, others that believed their sales reps, waited a few months and got nothing


Quote:
Originally Posted by atom (Post 15948696)
Once again people making mountains out of a molehill.
name 1 processor in adult that would survive 30mil of their money being frozen indefinitely

MrHits 06-11-2009 12:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Justin (Post 15948088)
boom shakalaka
<The Hoff Voice> I can't fight this feeling... Deep inside of me</The Hoff Voice>

Qbert 06-11-2009 12:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 15949566)
...name 1 processor in adult that would survive 30mil of their money being frozen indefinitely
That was the first thought I had when I read the article.

atom 06-11-2009 12:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcsike (Post 15949566)
in this industry, with processors, you have to police them yourselves. No processor is going to admit they are having trouble, because when that happens, their incentive is to save their own business and they tend to use their clients funds for that purpose and/or their own income.

by the time they admit and apologize that there are payment issues, nobody is going to get anything.

however, if your one of the early ones that demands their money, they will give it to you in order for you not to make a stink about it

some people got all their money from ibill, others that believed their sales reps, waited a few months and got nothing




name 1 processor in adult that would survive 30mil of their money being frozen indefinitely
Please re-read my post. I am not against policing processors or anyone else for that matter in this biz. What i do have a problem with is somebody posting a thread saying a company is out of business when they are still up and running.

As far as the molehill comment, I was referring to the fact that people were jumping all over this guy because he lost his cool for a moment. People seem to be more concerned with his one sentance than the fact that their ACH went down and have all this money frozen.

Personally i would be pissed to if someone started a thread saying HotCams shut down by Feds when we were not.

Oh well, just another day on GFY....

webmasterchecks 06-11-2009 02:46 PM
when processors have issues, this doesnt help anyone, i hope they get through this

lagcam 06-11-2009 03:19 PM
Given the thread title and the sensationalist allegations in the first post, I dont think the response from GTBill was out of order, and I am pretty sure that virtually everybody here would have reacted in the same way if it was their own business being (wrongly it appears) accused of having been shut down....especially as failed payment processors is a very very sensitive area.

So he used the word "bullshit". If something is not true, that is what it is.

Would you have preferred him to come out with carefully chosen words by their lawyers like "these allegations are completely without foundation"?

It's the same thing.

2MuchMark 06-11-2009 03:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottAtGTBill (Post 15948550)
I was referring to the GTBill being shutdown. As you can notice, none of our sites are down. The only thing that was affected was our ACH services, and that was only for a few days.
Glad to see that GTBill is alive and well - you guys are cool People really do need to get their facts straight before posting. Chance are we all know owners of companies who take things very hard when misinformation is put out.

Jimbo66 06-11-2009 04:18 PM
Also happy to hear you guys are ok. Cheers!

jakethedog 06-11-2009 04:59 PM
GTBill are rockstars .. they bend over backwards for me all the time with my crazy demands and bizarre set up stuff .. lol .. thanks guys ;)

baddog 06-11-2009 05:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimmiDean (Post 15949438)
No worries,
If it was my company I am sure I would have gone off far worse.:thumbsup
Yeah, can't really hold that response against him.

BIGTYMER 06-26-2009 08:33 AM
So GTBill lost ACH? Not good. I guess this is why my latest wire from them is late.. again. :helpme

jcsike 07-06-2009 09:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTymer (Post 16002109)
So GTBill lost ACH? Not good. I guess this is why my latest wire from them is late.. again. :helpme
did you get paid yet?


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