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SilentKnight 06-15-2009 07:55 AM

Should Canada have a federal election?
 
The opposition is making overtures to bring down the Conservatives in a non-confidence motion - which may prompt yet another federal election.

Your thoughts?

CDSmith 06-15-2009 08:04 AM

It's bound to happen sooner or later, our federal political landscape is quite fragmented right now. But the biggest problem as I see it is that many people (myself included) don't have enough confidence in ANY one party to give them a majority seat at the table right now, thus I doubt it will truly solve anything. Whomever wins will again have to hope that one or more of the lesser parties will side with them in order to get anything meaninful done. As it stands right now though those "lesser parties" all hate Harper.

The some $280 million another federal election is going to cost taxpayers? That's something else again. :(

SilentKnight 06-15-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15960632)
It's bound to happen sooner or later, our federal political landscape is quite fragmented right now. But the biggest problem as I see it is that many people (myself included) don't have enough confidence in ANY one party to give them a majority seat at the table right now, thus I doubt it will truly solve anything. Whomever wins will again have to hope that one or more of the lesser parties will side with them in order to get anything meaninful done. As it stands right now though those "lesser parties" all hate Harper.

Agreed.

As far as Harper goes - he's just 'okay' - but I wouldn't want to see what he'd do with a majority gov't. But at the same time, spendin' nearly $300m on another election during the economic recession seems like a colossal waste of money - better spent on other things.

I have no use for Ignatief or Layton...so that's not even a voting option IMO.

Martin 06-15-2009 08:14 AM

Lets take them all out back and shoot them and start over?

Martin 06-15-2009 08:21 AM

All kidding aside, I'm with CD on this one. I really don't like any of them right now. Not interested in seeing any one party take full control.

CDSmith 06-15-2009 08:24 AM

This is priceless...


yys 06-15-2009 08:39 AM

Nope, the Liberals should let the Con's govern with a minority and then take them to the polls in the future on their record in government.

I'd like them all to start debating the issues seriously during question period. As it is now they just scream and insult each other over petty crap and its pathetic. How about some real suggestions and debate on policy for a change.

Iron Fist 06-15-2009 08:41 AM

No one wants a summer election... 4 elections in 5 years?

Sorry but the public has election burnout... if they have an election in the summer, i'm not even going to vote.. obviously, my vote means dick squat, if they can have another election less than a year from the last one.

SilentKnight 06-15-2009 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15960693)
This is priceless...


:1orglaugh

That was great!

Vote Rick Mercer for PM.

LadyMischief 06-15-2009 09:03 AM

Harper is a snake and has done more damage than I think most people will realize until he's gone. I will be voting lib to get rid of Harper if the call comes for an election.

the alchemist 06-15-2009 10:15 AM

As if it makes any difference to vote for any of those clowns every 6 months in a constitutional monarchy...

MetaMan 06-15-2009 10:44 AM

Why do any of you fags care? the only people who actually do any work in the entire country is Albertans, we pay for all of your lazy relatives in the east.

Canada is a fucking joke when it comes to politics.

Iron Fist 06-15-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15961162)
Why do any of you fags care? the only people who actually do any work in the entire country is Albertans, we pay for all of your lazy relatives in the east.

Canada is a fucking joke when it comes to politics.

Alberta doesn't pay for anything other than Alberta's interests which is oil and gas. When oil drops to below $50 a barrel you guys are running around like it's the next recession. Even the Heritage Fund was in danger. So give me a break that you carry the country.. just because you don't run a deficit doesn't mean anything. It's still more expensive to live in Alberta than most other provinces (except BC, but blame all that Hong Kong cash eating up the housing market)

SilentKnight 06-15-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15961162)
Why do any of you fags care? the only people who actually do any work in the entire country is Albertans, we pay for all of your lazy relatives in the east.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

When did posting on GFY become work?

CDSmith 06-15-2009 11:28 AM

Alberta before someone figured out how to get oil out of the oil sands? --- total have not province. Take oil out of the picture and they'd still be a have-not province.

And I know several Albertans who are lazy as shit. :2 cents:

60 per cent of Albertans want more respect:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/you...a_respect.html -- pay attention to the "your letters" section below it, mostly from Albertans.

Rochard 06-15-2009 12:21 PM

They allow Canadians to vote? When did this happen?

Before you know it they'll be driving cars with cup holders too.

Stop this madness!

CDSmith 06-15-2009 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 15961484)
Before you know it they'll be driving snowmobiles with cup holders too.

Fixed it for you. :D

MetaMan 06-15-2009 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15961285)
Alberta before someone figured out how to get oil out of the oil sands? --- total have not province. Take oil out of the picture and they'd still be a have-not province.

And I know several Albertans who are lazy as shit. :2 cents:

60 per cent of Albertans want more respect:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/viewpoint/you...a_respect.html -- pay attention to the "your letters" section below it, mostly from Albertans.

STOP LIVING IN YESTERDAY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT NOW!

that is everyones problem they live in the past instead of the future.

take oil out of the picture? why would we take out one of the richest oil reserves on the planet out of the picture?

look im not even all that big into the canadian thing, but fact is alberta is a business minded province now. we make the rest of you people look like fucking jokes, and i dont want respect from people who are jokes. :2 cents:

CDSmith 06-15-2009 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15961562)
take oil out of the picture? why would we take out one of the richest oil reserves on the planet out of the picture?

Because without it you too are one of the biggest jokes in the country.

Btw, Manitoba's 2009 budget is looking quite balanced even without the giant oil crutch your province enjoys:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-41847197.html

I found this tidbit of particular interest:
Quote:

Manitoba and Saskatchewan are the only provinces that have delivered balanced budgets this year.
Is that living in the present enough for you? :D

MetaMan 06-15-2009 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 15961615)
Because without it you too are one of the biggest jokes in the country.

Btw, Manitoba's 2009 budget is looking quite balanced even without the giant oil crutch your province enjoys:
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-41847197.html

I found this tidbit of particular interest:

Is that living in the present enough for you? :D

Ya we do have it so wtf is your point? i cant stand when people talk in WHAT IFS, we fucking DO.

winnipeg is a shithole, i love it there still but lets be honest it is turned into gutter after NDP chased out all the business' thats a diff topic.

Sask? i hope they keep growing so all the trashbag Sask people who came to alberta will go the fuck home.

SilentKnight 06-15-2009 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15961562)
take oil out of the picture? why would we take out one of the richest oil reserves on the planet out of the picture?
fact is alberta is a business minded province now. we make the rest of you people look like fucking jokes, and i dont want respect from people who are jokes. :2 cents:

Keyword = "NOW"

Ontario's manufacturing industry carried Alberta's ass for a very long time (and this coming from someone originally born in Red Deer, Alta).

It wasn't until technology caught up with a viable method to extract oil from the tar sands that Alberta finally started to carry its own weight for a change.

Its all cyclic. The worst thing we can do is think in terms of "us" and "them" between provinces. What will Alberta do when they've dried up all the water reserves it takes to flush the oil from the sand?

CDSmith 06-15-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15961690)
Ya we do have it so wtf is your point? i cant stand when people talk in WHAT IFS, we fucking DO.

What's my point? Is it really that difficult to see? :D My point is, given a level playing field, Alberta is a have-not province, period.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15961690)
winnipeg is a shithole, i love it there still but lets be honest it is turned into gutter after NDP chased out all the business' thats a diff topic.

Not going to argue about Winnipeg dude. You know we have the best burger joints here, the most restaurants per capita of any Canadian city, #1 microbrew in the country (Fort Garry Ale) and for every business that leaves more always seem to be coming in. For $400k all you can get in Calgary is a shit-shack, but here $400k goes a long way when buying a house.

I just wish we'd get more biking trails!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 15961690)
Sask? i hope they keep growing so all the trashbag Sask people who came to alberta will go the fuck home.

lol

Si 06-15-2009 05:27 PM

No, there should be a GFY Poll for it :upsidedow

MediaGuy 06-15-2009 10:23 PM

Yes damn we should get rid of Harper. He's just toeing the American conservative line and is the only connection to the Bushite cult still embedded in Obama's administration.

Harper is planning nasty things for this country if he can get away with them.

Ignatieff will be a return to the classy, Liberal-party-style Canadian leadership that seems to have founded our solid banking system, medicare and general social safety net that he and his ilk seem to be in a hurry to dismantly.

I might not always agree with the Liberal Party but they seem to look after the solidity and stability of the country rather than want to deregulate, incorporate, sell out, and generally move out to purely free market US-style economic debauchery.

I remember actually wishing for a Bloc-Liberal-NDP coalition, although that might have been royally unstable. At least the harper woulda been out.

:D

SilentKnight 06-15-2009 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MediaGuy (Post 15963452)
Ignatieff will be a return to the classy, Liberal-party-style Canadian leadership that seems to have founded our solid banking system, medicare and general social safety net that he and his ilk seem to be in a hurry to dismantly.

After living 34 years out-of-Canada...schooled at Harvard - Ivehadenuf is as out-of-touch with the average Canadian as a monk in Tibet.

He's on record as saying he had "no desire to ever return to Canada" in the past.

Harper's recent attack ads aren't just propaganda - they're simply fact. And they should provide food for thought to every voting Canadian.

You want to return to a Liberal government? Is the collective memory so short it doesn't recall the Chretien-orchestrated Quebec scandal? The nepotism and funneling of money into francophone-based ad agencies?

The Liberals are as crooked as a snake's back - nothing has changed.

MediaGuy 06-15-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentKnight (Post 15963554)
After living 34 years out-of-Canada...schooled at Harvard - Ivehadenuf is as out-of-touch with the average Canadian as a monk in Tibet.

He's on record as saying he had "no desire to ever return to Canada" in the past.

Harper's recent attack ads aren't just propaganda - they're simply fact. And they should provide food for thought to every voting Canadian.

You want to return to a Liberal government? Is the collective memory so short it doesn't recall the Chretien-orchestrated Quebec scandal? The nepotism and funneling of money into francophone-based ad agencies?

The Liberals are as crooked as a snake's back - nothing has changed.

Well what's interesting is the sponsorship scandal was a conspiracy to fight the seperatist tendencies and keep the country unified. Yes, it was as corrupt as corrupt can get. But all politicians and political organizations are corrupt.

And it wasn't bad for Canada. It sucked for a minority political party in Canada.

Regardless of that one scandal that the Liberals got caught red-handed at (and Chretien maintained and honourably defended his plausible deniability in Gommery's face to the end, and I give him kudos for all that and more in his carreer), it's a fact that we have come out of every Liberal government with a surplus in this country and stronger trade agreements (again vastly generalized but...) whereas the Mulroneys and conservative governments have fucked us in the ass as a global, political and mercantile entity.

Also, it was a Liberal Govt. that told Bush to stick Iraq up his butt and rotate. Harper would have kneeled at the feet of the Burnout Bush and asked please may I have another.

Like most politicos Ignatieff is a blueblood, uppercrust over-educated whiff. But he seems to have philosophy, and not an agenda.

Since about 2003, Harper's been sinking his overt ultra-right-wing Preston Manning psycho prairie-boy lust for God and cows under mainstream demand for some kind of replacement of the Progressive Conservatives in order to get elected but he hasn't managed past a minority government.

If Harper had a majority, his mask would come off and we'd end up paying taxes to the IRS and listening to Lawrence Welk reruns on the Harper Happiness Hour.

:D

Mr. Billy 06-15-2009 11:54 PM

I'm sorry, I thought it said moran. :1orglaugh


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