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Morgan Sommer 06-18-2009 12:00 PM

Traffic Dude/ Scott Rabinowitz Issues
 
Has anyone else here been screwed over by the collapse of Traffic Dude and it's ponzi scheme?

Was wondering if anyone has had contact from Scott or his attorneys? So far we have had a document sent to us only discussing the dissolution of the assets of his boyfriend/business partner Tony. And notification of the Meeting of Creditors. In the meantime Tony is not responsible for the debt with us. Scott and TrafficDude Inc are. So if you know where he is let me know ;-)

Morgan Sommer
Company Number 4, BV
Cybersocket, Inc.
323-650-9906 x23

XPays 06-18-2009 12:11 PM

ouch- hope you can get this resolved

Mickey_ 06-18-2009 12:41 PM

Since I know both of you personally, all i can say is i hope you can resolve this in a professional and mutually beneficial/acceptable manner.

Morgan Sommer 06-18-2009 12:45 PM

Responsibility
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mickey-AWE (Post 15974832)
Since I know both of you personally, all i can say is i hope you can resolve this in a professional and mutually beneficial/acceptable manner.

Hey Mickey,

I thought I was a friend of Scott's for well over 13 years. ;-)

If any of his contact #s were working or if he had the maturity to be honest with his friends and business colleagues we would not have to resort to a public forum. It is unfortunate I agree.

See you in August I presume? ;-)

fris 06-18-2009 01:38 PM

im glad i didnt buy traffic from them when i first inquried

DaddyHalbucks 06-18-2009 01:56 PM

Sounds like a mess. Hope it gets resolved OK.

Barefootsies 06-18-2009 02:00 PM

Ouch. I just saw him in Vegas @ BROvention.

Sig.

vod 06-18-2009 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaddyHalbucks (Post 15975074)
Sounds like a mess. Hope it gets resolved OK.

agree and 2nd that ; goodluck

troncarver 06-18-2009 02:24 PM

was it really a ponzi scheme? i did not hear anything about that

marketsmart 06-18-2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troncarver (Post 15975174)
was it really a ponzi scheme? i did not hear anything about that

I think their office was in Egypt... Sounds like pyramids might have been involved...

WiredGuy 06-18-2009 02:28 PM

How was the company a ponzi scheme? I thought it was a bankruptcy issue?
WG

jimmy-3-way 06-18-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Sommer (Post 15974558)
Has anyone else here been screwed over by the collapse of Traffic Dude and it's ponzi scheme?

Was wondering if anyone has had contact from Scott or his attorneys? So far we have had a document sent to us only discussing the dissolution of the assets of his boyfriend/business partner Tony. And notification of the Meeting of Creditors. In the meantime Tony is not responsible for the debt with us. Scott and TrafficDude Inc are. So if you know where he is let me know ;-)

Morgan Sommer
Company Number 4, BV
Cybersocket, Inc.
323-650-9906 x23

I'm on the hook for a small amount of cash, as well.

Morgan Sommer 06-18-2009 03:06 PM

Ponzi Schemes
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 15975186)
How was the company a ponzi scheme? I thought it was a bankruptcy issue?
WG

Most ponzi schemes are only discovered when they are bankrupt. Then you get the pleasure of uncovering the financial management methodology. If it is simply a case of the business was unsustainable due to market conditions etc. Then that is reasonable. However, when just a week prior to the bk announcement personal assurances that debts would be paid were made by the parties involved, and they were still actively recruiting new clients, I would say there is something not quite kosher about the business.

On another note:

Tony Gallardo called me to let me know that the additional bk info for the corporation and for Scott R. would follow in the next few weeks. So in the end we will have 3 separate cases where they may be attempting to discharge their debts.

rhon23 06-18-2009 03:08 PM

kind of like robbing peter to pay paul

WiredGuy 06-18-2009 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Sommer (Post 15975379)
However, when just a week prior to the bk announcement personal assurances that debts would be paid were made by the parties involved, and they were still actively recruiting new clients

That part I didn't know, definitely didn't seem right if they knew they were going to become insolvent and kept operating under the guise that things were fine to get as much money as possible.
WG

DaddyHalbucks 06-18-2009 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Morgan Sommer (Post 15975379)
Most ponzi schemes are only discovered when they are bankrupt. Then you get the pleasure of uncovering the financial management methodology. If it is simply a case of the business was unsustainable due to market conditions etc. Then that is reasonable. However, when just a week prior to the bk announcement personal assurances that debts would be paid were made by the parties involved, and they were still actively recruiting new clients, I would say there is something not quite kosher about the business.

On another note:

Tony Gallardo called me to let me know that the additional bk info for the corporation and for Scott R. would follow in the next few weeks. So in the end we will have 3 separate cases where they may be attempting to discharge their debts.

Sometimes business people kid themselves about their prospects of surviving business troubles, but hope is not a business plan.

Businesses naturally succeed, and businesses naturally fail.

I think most entrepreneurs are honest.

Mike Dutch 06-22-2009 08:36 AM

Back to the top for you Morgan, hope you can solve this and both parties can walk away with their heads up high. Good luck

JackStroke 06-22-2009 08:58 AM

We were hit for over 30k as well... and just like Morgan we were absolutely assured that things were going to be just fine only days before they announced they were filing bankruptcy.

In fact, we were repeatedly lied to... the wire was sent, the bank lost it, they're tracing it, etc. until they couldn't lie anymore. Now we feel that we were defrauded in order to keep our traffic flowing to their clients to the very end.

It was our mistake for trusting Scott's reputation I guess, but the whole thing stinks to high heaven, and I agree with Morgan about it looking a lot like some kind of Ponzi scheme.

Morgan Sommer 06-29-2009 05:20 PM

Is Anyone Going to Be In Pueblo Colorado?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JackStroke (Post 15985783)
We were hit for over 30k as well... and just like Morgan we were absolutely assured that things were going to be just fine only days before they announced they were filing bankruptcy.

In fact, we were repeatedly lied to... the wire was sent, the bank lost it, they're tracing it, etc. until they couldn't lie anymore. Now we feel that we were defrauded in order to keep our traffic flowing to their clients to the very end.

It was our mistake for trusting Scott's reputation I guess, but the whole thing stinks to high heaven, and I agree with Morgan about it looking a lot like some kind of Ponzi scheme.

Hi,

Is anyone else planning to be in Pueblo on the 21st-23rd for these hearings. If so let's get dinner together ;-)

DatingGold 06-29-2009 05:31 PM

I think we are owed some money as well.

JFK 06-29-2009 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold (Post 16012592)
I think we are owed some money as well.

I am lucky, was'nt involved in this one:2 cents:

Daruma 06-29-2009 05:58 PM

Wasn't Scott part of the 'Bro' club??

sandman! 06-29-2009 06:10 PM

i have a feeling alot of people going to be fucked here.

Major (Tom) 06-29-2009 07:28 PM

1. when they wanted a pre-pay we simply said: NO
2. When things got even remotley fishy we bailed: We learned that from I Bill.

Duke

LiveDose 06-29-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 15975183)
I think their office was in Egypt... Sounds like pyramids might have been involved...


Good one.:upsidedow

Shap 06-29-2009 07:37 PM

I saw Scott speak once at internext. He came off as very cocky, clueless and a douchebag. I'm glad I never did business with him.

SleazyDream 06-29-2009 07:38 PM

most people when facing bankruptcy try everything to avoid it, I would assume it's why Scott kept going till the very end.

Bankruptcy isn't a joke or a way to steal from someone, it's a person giving up EVERYTHING they own cause they tried everything to make it work and handing their life over to a trustee cause they failed.

I feel for Scott. I know he tried everything he could and I KNOW this has taken a HUGE toll on him.

I know he didn't run away with the money, he legitimately tried with every power and ounce of energy he had to make it work.

I'd work work with Scott again.

JackStroke 06-29-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16012853)
I know he tried everything he could and I KNOW this has taken a HUGE toll on him.

He didn't try being honest. They led me around with lies for weeks before coming clean. I would have liked the opportunity to decide whether I should put MY money at risk for his problems. He didn't give me that chance.

Perhaps its taken such a toll because he acted like a shady piece of shit.

PXN 06-29-2009 08:46 PM

Good luck, I hope you can get your $$$.

LiveDose 06-29-2009 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16012853)
most people when facing bankruptcy try everything to avoid it, I would assume it's why Scott kept going till the very end.

Bankruptcy isn't a joke or a way to steal from someone, it's a person giving up EVERYTHING they own cause they tried everything to make it work and handing their life over to a trustee cause they failed.

I feel for Scott. I know he tried everything he could and I KNOW this has taken a HUGE toll on him.

I know he didn't run away with the money, he legitimately tried with every power and ounce of energy he had to make it work.

I'd work work with Scott again.


Did you lose any money with him?

Meeper 06-29-2009 08:47 PM

Hope you get it all worked out Morgan.

tigermtb 06-29-2009 09:16 PM

I'm sure you're not the only one who got hurt.

But, isn't it hard for it to be a "ponzi" scheme when it has nothing to do with investing?

Maybe I'm missing something but generally its just a matter of not having funds to cover what is owed. That's not ponzi.

But then again, I have no idea what happened with TrafficDude.. so..

jesse_adultdatingdollars 06-29-2009 10:09 PM

Not sure about Ponzi scheme, but I was buying traffic from them for 4-5 months, did pretty well, then they went to shit.

papill0n 06-29-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 16012993)
Did you lose any money with him?

I think you know the answer to that :upsidedow

SleazyDream 06-29-2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JackStroke (Post 16012977)
He didn't try being honest. They led me around with lies for weeks before coming clean. I would have liked the opportunity to decide whether I should put MY money at risk for his problems. He didn't give me that chance.

Perhaps its taken such a toll because he acted like a shady piece of shit.

personally, I think that's bullshit on your part and shows you have weak character.

I'd bet he was doing everying he could up till the end to turn things around.

SleazyDream 06-29-2009 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 16012993)
Did you lose any money with him?

no but i've lost a LOT more than people are talking about in this thread with MANY other people from this biz, suck it up. it's business.

bankruptcy isn't a joke and it isn't theft and trying to make it look like theft isn't cool.

LiveDose 06-29-2009 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SleazyDream (Post 16013252)
no but i've lost a LOT more than people are talking about in this thread with MANY other people from this biz, suck it up. it's business.

bankruptcy isn't a joke and it isn't theft and trying to make it look like theft isn't cool.



Fair enough but IF you had lost say 30K with him as someone posted above would you be telling us that you would do business with him again in the future?

SleazyDream 06-30-2009 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiveDose (Post 16013281)
Fair enough but IF you had lost say 30K with him as someone posted above would you be telling us that you would do business with him again in the future?

depends on the circumstance.

i did business with people I lost money with again...not all of them but some of them

RogerV 07-01-2009 01:20 AM

I've been fucked on traffic deals so many times i cant count how much I lost. Some have even made good on it later.

I've also seen many people in this industry fall and rise many times. Its the nature of business unfortunately.

Hope everything works out between everyone

sexdatesj 08-10-2010 10:55 AM

Scott apparently works for BunnyRanch.com selling traffic now.

fatfoo 08-10-2010 10:59 AM

I have not been screwed over.

fris 08-10-2010 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 17404981)
I have not been screwed over.

you first need money.

GayIPornSteve 08-10-2010 11:21 AM

Blast from the past.


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