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Diomed 06-27-2009 11:13 PM

How do you optimize your site for Yahoo instead of Google?
 
How does yahoo judge their search results?

Just recently, Yahoo took a particular liking to one of my sites.. and I'm trying to figure out for what reason.. Yes I have lots of text and I used to flood the site with a lot of traffic, but I don't anymore..

On a side note,

how far is too far on results.. like at what page do you stop seeing traffic.. page 3-4?

Thanks.

HandballJim 06-27-2009 11:27 PM

with yahoo your domain key words will come up better, and the title gets indexed better.

But yahoo better stop fucking with their homepage and trying new layouts...half of them don't even load properly. I like the plain old yahoo home page.

google...good luck your going to need it, you can be on page 1 one day and can't even find your website the next day. They seem to use a lot of different elements on how they show results.

You will still get traffic on page 3 or 4, but depending on your content will the visitor want to return.

d-null 06-27-2009 11:35 PM

generally speaking, the further from #1 your search result is, the poorer the ratios will be, regardless of traffic numbers (which are also drastically lower the further from #1 you are)

most surfers that make it to page 2 are getting good at finding what they are looking for for free I think ( and lately google is getting better at giving them the free content they are looking for on the first results page :1orglaugh )

I like msn traffic, there is just not enough of it

JD 06-27-2009 11:38 PM

the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

HouseHead 06-27-2009 11:42 PM

I get a shit ton of yahoo traffic to my affiliate urls from many programs.. good good traffic

HandballJim 06-27-2009 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 16007194)
the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup

It took me way over a hundred hours within 2 years to find the domains I registered, and also purchased them from aftermarket and auctions. A great domain should be your ground zero, my mistake was to register too many since I started as a domainer. I had over 2,000 at one time...now looking to keep between 550-625, worst thing I could have done...since it takes time to build one website let alone several hundred. Then the renewal fees drain your bank account.

Also I heard that people who search yahoo spend more money (a sponsor told me this).

$5 submissions 06-27-2009 11:52 PM

Bing/Yahoo is more forgiving regarding backlink sources

$5 submissions 06-27-2009 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16007186)

google...good luck your going to need it, you can be on page 1 one day and can't even find your website the next day. They seem to use a lot of different elements on how they show results.

True. But it also depends on niche.

Diomed 06-28-2009 12:00 AM

The page that Yahoo is liking, doesn't even have meta tags.

So there is zero damn description when it gets pulled up.. Do you think it would hurt if I added meta's and a description?

HandballJim 06-28-2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diomed (Post 16007220)
The page that Yahoo is liking, doesn't even have meta tags.

So there is zero damn description when it gets pulled up.. Do you think it would hurt if I added meta's and a description?

Anything you change...might also change the way your website is indexed. In yahoo, I was getting good traffic using some white labels...I change to plain html websites...traffic dropped a ton. html websites that were getting small traffic...changed to a cams white label...almost 0 traffic. Yahoo seems to like domains/websites that stay the same for at least 3 months.

So if you are getting good traffic don't mess around with it.

rowan 06-28-2009 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 16007194)
the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

+1

I get keyword based hits (ie not people searching for "mysitename.com") from Yahoo to thumb TGPs that have no text apart from the age disclaimer.

Porn Mickey 06-28-2009 01:33 AM

Work on building extra the content and making sure the site navigation is as good as it can be. Neither will hurt Google rankings & may improve your place in Yahoo

Walter Gropius 06-28-2009 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16007207)
It took me way over a hundred hours within 2 years to find the domains I registered, and also purchased them from aftermarket and auctions. A great domain should be your ground zero, my mistake was to register too many since I started as a domainer. I had over 2,000 at one time...now looking to keep between 550-625, worst thing I could have done...since it takes time to build one website let alone several hundred. Then the renewal fees drain your bank account.

I feel your pain :(


Quote:

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 16007211)
Bing/Yahoo is more forgiving regarding backlink sources

True dat

Diomed 06-28-2009 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HandballJim (Post 16007233)
Anything you change...might also change the way your website is indexed. In yahoo, I was getting good traffic using some white labels...I change to plain html websites...traffic dropped a ton. html websites that were getting small traffic...changed to a cams white label...almost 0 traffic. Yahoo seems to like domains/websites that stay the same for at least 3 months.

So if you are getting good traffic don't mess around with it.

Man,

I don't even have stats on the main index.. I can only see click through's.

Now your making me afraid to change even that.. but seriously, adding meta kw's and a description might hurt it?

Klen 06-28-2009 04:54 AM

For some reason on keywords where i am top 10 on google and bing i am not even on top 1000 on yahoo.Trying to find out why is that happening.

sortie 06-28-2009 05:08 AM

I don't get much traffic from yahoo and I have sites in the yahoo directory.

Why yahoo does not bring up directory results in regular search is a mystery to
me. All the sites were hand checked and browsing the directory is more surfer
time on the yahoo site and thus more ads shown.
I don't get it.

Diomed 06-28-2009 07:23 PM

It seems like every solid keyword combination on my main index is triggering good search results.. if it were google I would be getting some solid traffic due to the volume.

It's literally picking up every word on the main index, and if I try any combination with those words it's showing between the first page and page three.

Just wish I could re-edit it with newer keyword phrases to grab those serps.

Diomed 06-30-2009 02:05 AM

Last question,

any idea on how to make edits to your site without affecting the current serps in Yahoo?

Thanks.

seeandsee 06-30-2009 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD (Post 16007194)
the domain is a biggie with Yahoo

tell me about that shit


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