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viki 07-09-2009 11:03 AM

firefox ctrl+shift+p may be good for us
 
the new firefox private browsing seems very promising. guys that don't have any idea how to clear cookies or history and are terrified of their wives and families may finally feel safer about looking at porn.

maybe we should all make an effort to spread the word about this great new feature. what do you think?

StuartD 07-09-2009 11:04 AM

Absolutely... because we need more surfers killing cookies and wiping out affiliate's potential sales!!

Perfect! :thumbsup

viki 07-09-2009 11:13 AM

i guess i only thought of it from the perspective of people that don't look at porn at all now for fear of getting caught. your take on it makes me rethink my position somewhat.

still, i think most sales are made by browsing and buying on an impulse right then and there vs coming back later.

this feature could also be better for membership retention - not getting caught = less cancellations.

Max Cannon 07-09-2009 11:20 AM

Good against cookie stuffers...this is 2009, cookies affiliate system need to go anyways, it's ancient

u-Bob 07-09-2009 11:23 AM

Worst idea ever.

viki 07-09-2009 11:28 AM

okay, okay. i'll go crawl back in my hole now.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 07-09-2009 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cannon (Post 16046967)
Good against cookie stuffers...this is 2009, cookies affiliate system need to go anyways, it's ancient

stuffing in firefox is next to impossible anyways :2 cents:

gornyhuy 07-09-2009 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by viki (Post 16047001)
okay, okay. i'll go crawl back in my hole now.

NO need, don't let the bastards get you down.

Now.... weren't you going to show yer tits?
:winkwink:

Pete-KT 07-09-2009 11:33 AM

Thats why we track by IP also Stuart, our system sets a cookie but also grabs there ip and assigns it to that affiliate.

Zester 07-09-2009 11:35 AM

is there a way to tell if a surfer is in private mode ?

StuartD 07-09-2009 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete-KT (Post 16047035)
Thats why we track by IP also Stuart, our system sets a cookie but also grabs there ip and assigns it to that affiliate.

:thumbsup

seeandsee 07-09-2009 12:01 PM

best idea, lets make no sales ever again!

viki 07-09-2009 12:14 PM

no sales ever again? the cookies are valid for the current session which is when nearly all sales are made and i still see positives to this feature beyond that issue.

just because i'm brainstorming doesn't mean you have to tear me a new asshole. it's just gfy for fucksakes.

Naja-ram 07-09-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by viki (Post 16047194)
no sales ever again? the cookies are valid for the current session which is when nearly all sales are made and i still see positives to this feature beyond that issue.

just because i'm brainstorming doesn't mean you have to tear me a new asshole. it's just gfy for fucksakes.

it's that time of the month for you isn't it ?

viki 07-09-2009 12:24 PM

okay, i was wrong, i get it. you guys are just harsh sometimes.

:error

StuartD 07-09-2009 01:46 PM

You were just thinking of it as a personal user, not a business user..... and as a personal user of a browser, it's a great feature, but as a business person wanting to get every last sale you're entitled to... it's a problem.

It's not that you were wrong. :2 cents:

Penthouse Tony 07-09-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StuartD (Post 16047508)
You were just thinking of it as a personal user, not a business user..... and as a personal user of a browser, it's a great feature, but as a business person wanting to get every last sale you're entitled to... it's a problem.

It's not that you were wrong. :2 cents:

She still might be right. With AFF we use session cookies and also pass the affiliate id through the URL all the way up to the reg page. So if someone blocks out cookies then you only lose sales for people who saw the ad, closed the browser, reopen and get to AFF via typing it in (not by finding the ad and clicking on it again or a bookmark). So if the loss of credit sales is less than the increase in surfers/orders because they fear less of being caught then it's a net gain.

calmlikeabomb 07-09-2009 02:20 PM

^ Satan Cash's method is more reliable, because if implemented correctly, the first webmaster to send the visitor to the website will receive the sales credit.

With your method if a user decides to purchase later, goes to google, and finds your site using another affiliates website, then original webmaster loses the sale. Even though he was the one to send you the visitor initially.

Satan Cash's method would only fail if the users ip address changes, but either way it still should improve your odds of being credited with the sale.

Klen 07-09-2009 02:29 PM

I think nats also credits affiliate per ip.That would explain why nats ratios are always better then ccbill ratios.

StuartD 07-09-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calmlikeabomb (Post 16047617)
^ Satan Cash's method is more reliable, because if implemented correctly, the first webmaster to send the visitor to the website will receive the sales credit.

With your method if a user decides to purchase later, goes to google, and finds your site using another affiliates website, then original webmaster loses the sale. Even though he was the one to send you the visitor initially.

Satan Cash's method would only fail if the users ip address changes, but either way it still should improve your odds of being credited with the sale.

They are equally important in my opinion, as a HUGE portion of people have dynamic IPs... I believe dialup users still outnumber high speed and even high speed is dynamic unless specifically asked for otherwise.

Both methods are "limited time" methods which are great to have in addition to the cookie method.... none of them are perfect.

Zester 07-10-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 16047646)
I think nats also credits affiliate per ip.That would explain why nats ratios are always better then ccbill ratios.

I thought ccbill DOES use other methods besides cookies

webjoker 07-10-2009 07:59 AM


IE8 has private mode and it's been around for a few months now. (still the dominant web browser)
google chrome has incognito mode from the day it was launched.
firefox just had to do it because the other did it.

if any sponsor is relying on cookies only for tracking - as an affiliate you have to drop it NOW.

Zester 07-10-2009 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 16047145)
best idea, lets make no sales ever again!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

CyberHustler 07-10-2009 08:44 AM

I eat cookies for breakfast...

ExLust 07-10-2009 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webjoker (Post 16049883)

IE8 has private mode and it's been around for a few months now. (still the dominant web browser)
google chrome has incognito mode from the day it was launched.
firefox just had to do it because the other did it.

if any sponsor is relying on cookies only for tracking - as an affiliate you have to drop it NOW.

:2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup


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