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Best-In-BC 08-13-2009 01:09 PM

Epassporte New Government ID Required
 
WTF, how much shit of mine do they need!

beerptrol 08-13-2009 01:15 PM

Blood and urine samples are next

brassmonkey 08-13-2009 01:16 PM

damn 4 what

Jet - BANNED FOR LIFE 08-13-2009 01:17 PM

i had to give them my DNA sample

:helpme

Fletch XXX 08-13-2009 01:17 PM

I have no problem proving who I am when it comes to sending and getting money via epass, I use the card and get payments every day.

J. Falcon 08-13-2009 02:10 PM

You guys are funny.

Mr. Billy 08-13-2009 02:18 PM

I don't mind giving the ID as needed. However given that some web companies are somewhat of an unknown quantity when it comes to the credibility that large brick and mortar institutions like banks and brokerage houses have worked to command, I do sometimes find it causes me to pause for a moment when asked to fax or email copies of driver's licenses etc. to them. Also, the banks and brokerage houses are heavily regulated while some entities on the net are not subject to the same levels of oversight.

PornoStar69 08-13-2009 02:31 PM

Mr Orwell was right about 1984

oh you conspiracy theorist they all tell me :)

2+2 = 5

arock10 08-13-2009 02:38 PM

Is this disabling the accounts or can I give them What they need not immediately

Webmaster Advertising 08-13-2009 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arock10 (Post 16180748)
Is this disabling the accounts or can I give them What they need not immediately

You can send them the docs after you have photochopped them thats what i did on my account and they accepted them fine.... :1orglaugh

Im not joking btw i really did send them fake document ids and they accepted them without a problem :thumbsup

Just goes to show how much requiring you to send your id in actually means :2 cents:

WarChild 08-13-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 16180723)
Mr Orwell was right about 1984

oh you conspiracy theorist they all tell me :)

2+2 = 5

You're a fucking idiot. Please go kill yourself.

Sid70 08-13-2009 03:38 PM

didnt we do that all before?

AmeliaG 08-13-2009 03:57 PM

After all those adverts Epass ran about be who you want to be, I think it is just an attempted money grab for them to ask for this much documentation.

Did you all see that, in addition to ID and a copy of the card, they want a copy of your bank statement or credit card statement before they will let you withdraw your funds?

This is the second company I've seen pull this sort of thing in the past month and I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money.

Best-In-BC 08-13-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 16181080)
After all those adverts Epass ran about be who you want to be, I think it is just an attempted money grab for them to ask for this much documentation.

Did you all see that, in addition to ID and a copy of the card, they want a copy of your bank statement or credit card statement before they will let you withdraw your funds?

This is the second company I've seen pull this sort of thing in the past month and I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money.

Yes, I agree but there company has lil to do with the economy and the adult side of things is no where near as bad as people think!

shermo 08-13-2009 04:19 PM

I wish they needed it fax's, etc for further verification. Most affiliate fraud comes from affiliates requesting epassporte, as it is so anonymous.

Tam 08-13-2009 04:21 PM

With all of these epass scammers we deal with on a daily basis, i have absolutely NO problems at all providing this information to them. Because I know if i am having to, then so are the scammers and maybe.... JUST MAYBE, this will shut some of them down so that WE don't have to deal with so much of it.

I know the scammers are always going to find a way, but wow, it's gotten to be a huge problem.

Just MY 2cents! :thumbsup

Jarmusch 08-13-2009 04:26 PM

This government ID is required for what? To open an account?

georgeyw 08-13-2009 04:31 PM

Haven't received any info about this, will any additional ID be required for international webmasters?

romeo22 08-13-2009 04:33 PM

I just did what they needed..no problem at all

Brad Mitchell 08-13-2009 04:39 PM

I don't understand why anyone would find it unreasonable for them to require such identification. I suppose the ones complaining are those under the illusion that they might have the ability to avoid paying taxes... tisk, tisk

Brad

EuroRevenueUSA 08-13-2009 04:49 PM

this is the message i received when logging into my account....
I was not required to mail or photocopy anything....


Dear Valued ePassporte Account Holder,

In order to comply with current government regulations, all ePassporte account holders are now required to provide ePassporte with a personal, current and valid government-issued identification number.

ePassporte treats all information provided as confidential and will securely store all data it collects. This personal information will be treated with the same care and security as all Account Holder information as is described in ePassporte's Privacy Policy.

Please provide ePassporte with one of the following government-issued identification numbers:
A Passport Number
A State/Government issued Driver's License Number
A National Health ID Number
Other form of National/State issued identification

Furious_Male 08-13-2009 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroRevenueUSA (Post 16181451)
this is the message i received when logging into my account....
I was not required to mail or photocopy anything....


Dear Valued ePassporte Account Holder,

In order to comply with current government regulations, all ePassporte account holders are now required to provide ePassporte with a personal, current and valid government-issued identification number.

ePassporte treats all information provided as confidential and will securely store all data it collects. This personal information will be treated with the same care and security as all Account Holder information as is described in ePassporte's Privacy Policy.

Please provide ePassporte with one of the following government-issued identification numbers:
A Passport Number
A State/Government issued Driver's License Number
A National Health ID Number
Other form of National/State issued identification

Thats the same message I am seeing. They should already have this info when I faxed it in years ago.

I am curious what law this is. Paypal hasn't asked me for this info yet.

IllTestYourGirls 08-13-2009 05:05 PM

just filled mine out, it was pretty painless.

GatorB 08-13-2009 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brad Mitchell (Post 16181370)
I don't understand why anyone would find it unreasonable for them to require such identification. I suppose the ones complaining are those under the illusion that they might have the ability to avoid paying taxes... tisk, tisk

Brad

I don't avoid paying taxes, but they don't need that shit. I've been doing business with them for over 4 years. NOW they want to check my credentials? I'll just start having my checks delivered by mail again even though that means waiting extra.

Thurbs 08-13-2009 05:10 PM

I for one think it's great.

the influx of fraud is a huge problem, it affects the organics all the way down. sad part is, where most of the fraud is coming from, I'm sure falsified documents is just as easy to get as the cards they buy.

qxm 08-13-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16181561)
just filled mine out, it was pretty painless.

yeap just entered my ID # and thats it... no prob..

Jarmusch 08-13-2009 05:13 PM

Logged into my account and had the message waiting for me. Done.

David! 08-13-2009 05:17 PM

Tax authorities are getting wiser...

georgeyw 08-13-2009 06:03 PM

just logged in and saw the same message.

I'd love to know how they plan on verifying the info submitted via that form.....

I'm sure as shit not sending them my licence or passporte :2 cents:

Unless all of the co directors send me their full details along with addresses, financial information, their bank card and pin number.

Machete_ 08-13-2009 06:09 PM

Seems strange they want that kind of info, unless they are trying to get the same status as a real bank

NaughtyRob 08-13-2009 06:09 PM

Same here, I filled it out, no biggy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16180411)
I have no problem proving who I am when it comes to sending and getting money via epass, I use the card and get payments every day.


u-Bob 08-13-2009 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tam (Post 16181238)
With all of these epass scammers we deal with on a daily basis, i have absolutely NO problems at all providing this information to them. Because I know if i am having to, then so are the scammers and maybe.... JUST MAYBE, this will shut some of them down so that WE don't have to deal with so much of it.

I know the scammers are always going to find a way, but wow, it's gotten to be a huge problem.

Just MY 2cents! :thumbsup

All a scammer has to do is fill in a totally random number.... or do you think Epassporte is able to lookup the passporte/id card/etc numbers for all those countries in that list? :)

Juicy D. Links 08-13-2009 06:12 PM

123 456 789

it works loll

Machete_ 08-13-2009 06:13 PM

Is it even legal for them to store that kind of personal information? I know for a fact its not legal here.

Fletch XXX 08-13-2009 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 16181941)
All a scammer has to do is fill in a totally random number.... or do you think Epassporte is able to lookup the passporte/id card/etc numbers for all those countries in that list? :)

But by doing so that means they are doing something wrong. Anyone doing legit business has nothing to fear. I would assume filling in false numbers would break their TOS along the way somewhere.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 16181080)
After all those adverts Epass ran about be who you want to be, I think it is just an attempted money grab for them to ask for this much documentation.

Did you all see that, in addition to ID and a copy of the card, they want a copy of your bank statement or credit card statement before they will let you withdraw your funds?

This is the second company I've seen pull this sort of thing in the past month and I think it is just a sign of a down economy that they are grasping at straws to avoid paying you your money.

I aint gonna lie, this made me laugh.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GetNaughty (Post 16181935)
Same here, I filled it out, no biggy.

It takes longer to reply in this thread than to handle business.

Epass is a big part of my business and allows me to get payments from customers from all corners of the globe. If they needed me to get on the phone with them once a month to voice verify me, id call them at scheduled time, no problem.

This is business people, treat it like one and stop hiding.

Jarmusch 08-13-2009 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16181932)
Seems strange they want that kind of info, unless they are trying to get the same status as a real bank

If that's the case, we better start earning interest on the money we have there soon!

CYF 08-13-2009 06:22 PM

I got it too, and I was under the assumption that only business accounts had to fax documentation.

Wondering why they need it, but I filled in my DL# anyways.

lagcam 08-13-2009 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 16180829)
You can send them the docs after you have photochopped them thats what i did on my account and they accepted them fine.... :1orglaugh

Im not joking btw i really did send them fake document ids and they accepted them without a problem :thumbsup

Just goes to show how much requiring you to send your id in actually means :2 cents:

That is one of the stupidest posts I have seen on this forum and I look forward to the "epassporte suspended my account" thread that deserves to be your next post.

I have a business account and a verified personal account and I believe that epassporte have the right to every document that they have asked me for, and I have given it because I run a legitimate business and have nothing to hide.

Epassporte provide a valuable service and I welcome any step they take to make it harder for scammers and fraudsters to get paid.

:2 cents:

Michael O 08-13-2009 06:52 PM

If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

CaptainHowdy 08-13-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

Thread closed??

georgeyw 08-13-2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

AFAIK - i've never sent in any documentation. If I have, then I wouldn't have a clue as to what it was to input that number :2 cents:

Plus the fact ID such as drivers licences have different numbers on renewal/moving etc etc...

EDIT :

I don't have a huge problem with this, what does annoy me to hell is that epass never ever seems to have any forewarning about these kinds of changes. This morning I needed to check my account and didn't have my id on me and it's asking for this info - so in goes a bunch of random bs so I can get in. Guess it will mean my account is locked out soon enough.

Machete_ 08-13-2009 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.

unless those have been updated, Epass would only need "the supporting records (consisting of the original documents or copies) in respect of a business relationship or occasional transaction which is the subject of customer due diligence measures or ongoing monitoring. "

In other words - if a customer loads the epass account from a Creditcard, then that counts as verification, if the card is issued through the country the customer claims he is from.

I would still claim that EU Directive 95/46/EC makes it illegal for you to ask for, and store the information you have requested

AmeliaG 08-13-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16182137)
If you have already send in documents just use the number from the ID you sent in.
Most everyone here have sent in documents already so this shouldn't be a problem.

We follow anti money laundering and anti terrorism legislation the request for this information is based on EU Anti-Money Laundering 3rd Directive which is the highest standard at the moment.
We are not a company that have popped up over night and then disappear just as fast there is a reason we are still here when others have come and gone.



ID is one thing, although I think it is kinda shady to require ID after advertising that people could use their online persona for Epass. Doesn't inconvenience me any and I kind of think you all already have all that on file for me anyway. So a couple of questions:

(1) Why the bank or credit card statement, though?

(2) Why make this change after pretty much inviting webmasters to use nick info instead of their names?

SarahLLO 08-13-2009 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 16181309)
Haven't received any info about this, will any additional ID be required for international webmasters?

I'm not international, but I haven't received anything about this either.

But then again, I only use epass for a few sponsors... maybe it's only if you tend to send/receive lots and lots of money?

georgeyw 08-13-2009 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SarahLLO (Post 16182264)
I'm not international, but I haven't received anything about this either.

But then again, I only use epass for a few sponsors... maybe it's only if you tend to send/receive lots and lots of money?

Login to your account - you'll get the message too...

SarahLLO 08-13-2009 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 16182280)
Login to your account - you'll get the message too...

Was just coming back to post that, haha.

DaddyHalbucks 08-13-2009 07:55 PM

It's no big deal to me.

:)

VeriSexy 08-13-2009 07:58 PM

Entered my info, surprised they didn't require to scan in docs

Barefootsies 08-13-2009 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16180609)
You guys are funny.

:2 cents:

J. Falcon 08-13-2009 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webmaster Advertising (Post 16180829)
You can send them the docs after you have photochopped them thats what i did on my account and they accepted them fine.... :1orglaugh

Im not joking btw i really did send them fake document ids and they accepted them without a problem :thumbsup

Just goes to show how much requiring you to send your id in actually means :2 cents:

Smart of you to mention that here. :error


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