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kane 08-20-2009 04:51 PM

Scotland releasing terroist who killed 259 people.
 
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1250...le_wsj_gadgv1&

This pisses me off. The guy who was convicted of bombing a Pan Am flight that killed 259 people (189 of them US citizens) was released by Scottish authorities today because he has terminal prostate cancer.

From the article: "Defying intense pressure from the U.S. government, Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill chose to release Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi on "compassionate grounds," reasoning that he should be allowed to be with his family"

So the guy goes home to Libya and is greeted like a hero and gets to spend is last days among friends and family.

I know keeping him in jail until he dies won't bring back the dead, but to me this is just s slap in the face to all the families and friends of the people who died on that plane.

RobertD 08-20-2009 05:18 PM

Luis Posada Carriles

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brand0n 08-20-2009 05:26 PM

very fucked imho

todhunter 08-20-2009 05:36 PM

I don't see an upside to this.

Two alternatives, both bad.

The guy dies in a prison in Scotland, pissing off his family and countrymen...

Or the guy dies at home, surrounded by his family, pissing off survivors of the people he killed.

I have no answer.

--t

J. Falcon 08-20-2009 06:44 PM

He should die in jail.

EscortBiz 08-20-2009 06:50 PM

what a day, man shoots himself in foot 2 years jail, man kills 259 people 20 years jail,

Kenko 08-20-2009 06:54 PM

Looks like a lot of the families are split over it - there is some doubt over his guilt.

He is supposed to have just weeks to live - i suppose sending him home to die is the humane thing to do, even if he was involved..
Good over evil.

SomeCreep 08-20-2009 06:56 PM

Your face, to face, with the man who sold the world.

Yngwie 08-20-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todhunter (Post 16215149)
I don't see an upside to this.

Two alternatives, both bad.

The guy dies in a prison in Scotland, pissing off his family and countrymen...

Or the guy dies at home, surrounded by his family, pissing off survivors of the people he killed.

I have no answer.

--t

both true, but lets say he dies in jail.. His family will be extremely pissed and chances are that this would cause them to want to kill many more people. Sure, the families of the ones that he killed will be happy that he died in jail, but the end results will, in most cases, be much worse than the reason he was in prison for.

So I think letting him die with his family will help, in a way, to not have his family kill more people, maybe. (assuming that some of them are also terrorists). The families of the ones who died will be pissed, but it's better than taking a chance having more innocent people killed. That's just my opinion. Terrorists suck, but sometimes you need to do things to not create more deaths.

DVTimes 08-20-2009 07:23 PM

many in scotland and england do not belive he did it.

they had no evidence on him except he was in a certain country at a certain time.

plus with all due respect this is scotish law (and england has similar laws) that people can be released ifd they have only 3 months to live.

DVTimes 08-20-2009 07:25 PM

plus on top of that we (the uk) are making lots of top oil deals with Libya so at the end of the day it benafits the uk as a whole to do this.

Yes it may piss a few of in the usa but at the end of the day this is in truth business.

mlove 08-20-2009 07:29 PM

Good. He is a good man and deserves freedom.

FreeHugeMovies 08-20-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlove (Post 16215440)
Good. He is a good man and deserves freedom.

What are you smoking?

DaddyHalbucks 08-20-2009 09:38 PM

Supposedly thousands of people greeted him in Libya. So much for "moderate" Muslims.

Libertine 08-21-2009 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todhunter (Post 16215149)
Or the guy dies at home, surrounded by his family, pissing off survivors of the people he killed.

Many family members of the victims are convinced he's innocent.

I think they're right. The evidence in the case was incredibly weak, lots of information was withheld during the trial, there are numerous rumors and statements about witnesses being offered bribes to testify, etc.

Personally, I think it's fairly likely that the identities of those actually responsible were kept hidden, perhaps to aid the search for their other associates.

John-ACWM 08-21-2009 03:46 AM

Well injustice is happening every second.
Reminds me of a good movie with Liam Neeson,saw it a few days ago:
Five minutes of heaven.

georgeyw 08-21-2009 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 16215382)
both true, but lets say he dies in jail.. His family will be extremely pissed and chances are that this would cause them to want to kill many more people. Sure, the families of the ones that he killed will be happy that he died in jail, but the end results will, in most cases, be much worse than the reason he was in prison for.

So I think letting him die with his family will help, in a way, to not have his family kill more people, maybe. (assuming that some of them are also terrorists). The families of the ones who died will be pissed, but it's better than taking a chance having more innocent people killed. That's just my opinion. Terrorists suck, but sometimes you need to do things to not create more deaths.

Yup give into them - great idea....

Don't know the background of the case, but if he actually did do it, then no leniency should be shown IMO :2 cents:

seeandsee 08-21-2009 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 16214998)
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1250...le_wsj_gadgv1&

This pisses me off. The guy who was convicted of bombing a Pan Am flight that killed 259 people (189 of them US citizens) was released by Scottish authorities today because he has terminal prostate cancer.

From the article: "Defying intense pressure from the U.S. government, Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill chose to release Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi on "compassionate grounds," reasoning that he should be allowed to be with his family"

So the guy goes home to Libya and is greeted like a hero and gets to spend is last days among friends and family.

I know keeping him in jail until he dies won't bring back the dead, but to me this is just s slap in the face to all the families and friends of the people who died on that plane.

he need to die in prison

Machete_ 08-21-2009 04:32 AM

I dont think you can blame the people that greeted him in his homeland. Dont forget that the US and UK WERE very much their enimies back then. If a US marine/agent had been held hostage in Iran for 20 years, he would be greeted with a parade as well + most likely get to drink a beer with Obama.

It's not like the american pilots that carried out the last of Henry Kissinger bombings in Korea, were put on trial either.


The only problem I have with this, is that it undermines the International Legal system in a time where we need it the most

ottyhotties 08-21-2009 04:34 AM

This is a moment we needed Dick Cheney's assassination squads. Imagine a bullet going through that motherfuckers forehead stepping off the plane while thousands of Muslims cheered for him.

Dick Cheney would have called that compassionate end of life counseling!

Dirty Dane 08-21-2009 04:37 AM

At least he got cancer...

MovieMaster 08-21-2009 04:41 AM

Why not tow him up in a glider all the way home, release the tow and oops the plane blew up....

NetHorse 08-21-2009 04:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlove (Post 16215440)
Good. He is a good man and deserves freedom.

You're a fucking communist terrorist faggot. :2 cents: Do you really live in Chicago? Constantly talking shit trying to get underneath everyone's skin. :321GFY

mOrrI 08-21-2009 04:42 AM

I don't understand why... :(

for gods sake he killed a lot of ppl...

now just because he's dying of cancer...

pornguy 08-21-2009 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by todhunter (Post 16215149)
I don't see an upside to this.

Two alternatives, both bad.

The guy dies in a prison in Scotland, pissing off his family and countrymen...

Or the guy dies at home, surrounded by his family, pissing off survivors of the people he killed.

I have no answer.

--t


The guy dies in a US prison where he can receive plenty of medical care and his suffering life can be extended as long as possible.

that's a good upside.

Ross 08-21-2009 04:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16216549)
I dont think you can blame the people that greeted him in his homeland. Dont forget that the US and UK WERE very much their enimies back then. If a US marine/agent had been held hostage in Iran for 20 years, he would be greeted with a parade as well + most likely get to drink a beer with Obama.

It's not like the american pilots that carried out the last of Henry Kissinger bombings in Korea, were put on trial either.


The only problem I have with this, is that it undermines the International Legal system in a time where we need it the most

What about the ones who rubbed salt into the wounds of the families by waving Scotland Flags as he walked down the steps of the Plane? He is a scum bag and should have spent the last few weeks of his life in a Scottish Jail. He deserved nothing from us, he didn't give all those people on the Plane anything apart from an early death.

Machete_ 08-21-2009 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 16216606)
What about the ones who rubbed salt into the wounds of the families by waving Scotland Flags as he walked down the steps of the Plane? He is a scum bag and should have spent the last few weeks of his life in a Scottish Jail. He deserved nothing from us, he didn't give all those people on the Plane anything apart from an early death.

As I said - Dont forget that the US and UK WERE very much their enimies back then. He attacked his enemy like any soldier is trained to do. You dont warn the enemy before you attack him.

on top of that, libya is one of the most important European partners in africa. Both when it comes to development of africa and future Solarpower energy to Europe

One have to be naive to think those facts arent a part of this case.

The only problem I have with this, is that it undermines the International Legal system in a time where we need it the most. But we cant always get what we want

BAKO 08-21-2009 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 16216534)
he need to die in prison

:thumbsup:thumbsup


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