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marketsmart 08-22-2009 01:03 PM

More Police Brutality Caught On Tape
 
I dont see the guy throw a punch once and when all the other pigs show up, they just start beating the guy...



Machete_ 08-22-2009 01:06 PM

That will teach the hippie

Pleasurepays 08-22-2009 01:08 PM

police brutality my fucking ass. all you have to do is say "yes sir", "no sir" and be on your way. if you're going to be non compliant, argumentative and combative... you're gonna lose.

only a fucking retard or a inexperienced kid would see it ... or understand it differently.

2012 08-22-2009 01:14 PM

Did he live, ? did you see the cop on 6:28 or so kicking his head when the guys obviously unconscious...they administered a severely brutal ass kicking there

theking 08-22-2009 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by fartfly (Post 16222131)
Did he live, ? did you see the cop on 6:28 or so kicking his head when the guys obviously unconscious...they administered a severely brutal ass kicking there

If he was unconscious why was he repeatedly told to stop resisting virtually to the very end of the tape? They probably should not have punched and kicked him...but instead used their tasers.

The guy was resisting from the word go and officers have the legal obligation to pretty much do what they choose to do to subdue a person as long as they continue to resist.

tony286 08-22-2009 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16222110)
police brutality my fucking ass. all you have to do is say "yes sir", "no sir" and be on your way. if you're going to be non compliant, argumentative and combative... you're gonna lose.

only a fucking retard or a inexperienced kid would see it ... or understand it differently.

Im in the yes sir no sir club but being argumentative doesnt give them license to beat the shit out of him.

WarChild 08-22-2009 01:38 PM

Stop resisting and you don't get beat. Seems simple enough.

Furious_Male 08-22-2009 01:38 PM

Que the pro cop and anti cop debate that happens every time one of these vids are posted.

Looks to me like the driver was not complying so he was treated roughly. On the flip side its pretty pathetic that it took 8 LEOs to get this guy cuffed even while punching and kicking him. Looks like they need to go back to the academy.

Machete_ 08-22-2009 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 16222189)
Que the pro cop and anti cop debate that happens every time one of these vids are posted.

Looks to me like the driver was not complying so he was treated roughly. On the flip side its pretty pathetic that it took 8 LEOs to get this guy cuffed even while punching and kicking him. Looks like they need to go back to the academy.

First cop is a midget. The only midgets that you should fear is the mexicans and those called Anal Hobbit

BradM 08-22-2009 01:46 PM

They got crazy at the end, but clearly the guy was combative and uncooperative. That's a great way to get your ass kicked in any country by ANYONE with "power" over you.

PornMD 08-22-2009 01:48 PM

The first cop just wanted some lovin'...the rest that showed up just wanted to beat someone's ass.

I just don't understand, especially when it's pretty well known that cops may beat the shit out of you if you don't comply with their orders, why someone wouldn't just comply unless they're hiding something. *shrug*

marketsmart 08-22-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Furious_Male (Post 16222189)
Que the pro cop and anti cop debate that happens every time one of these vids are posted.

If a guy takes a swing at a cop then i am all for the cops using the force necessary to get control of a person, however once that person is on the ground or complying then the cops should back off..

i see too many cases where the cops just keep going and keep going. anyone that says a person should just take a beating without trying to defend themselves is an idiot. we are all programmed as humans to try to protect ourselves from harm and i am sick of LE saying a person is resisting when all they are trying to do is protect themselves. you cant keep punching and kicking a guy while telling him to put his hands behind his back.. :2 cents:

Joe King 08-22-2009 01:54 PM

The guy got what he deserved. I think the cops have a reason to get pissed off when someone does not obey their instructions.

DonovanTrent 08-22-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16222217)
The guy got what he deserved. I think the cops have a reason to get pissed off when someone does not obey their instructions.

Pissed off, sure. But he didn't take a swing at them, at least when I saw the video. There's no excuse for what's going on and how long it went on here.

Joe King 08-22-2009 02:00 PM

Anyone got a video where a cop gets his ass beat?

theking 08-22-2009 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16222210)
If a guy takes a swing at a cop then i am all for the cops using the force necessary to get control of a person, however once that person is on the ground or complying then the cops should back off..

i see too many cases where the cops just keep going and keep going. anyone that says a person should just take a beating without trying to defend themselves is an idiot. we are all programmed as humans to try to protect ourselves from harm and i am sick of LE saying a person is resisting when all they are trying to do is protect themselves. you cant keep punching and kicking a guy while telling him to put his hands behind his back.. :2 cents:

Being on the ground does not necessarily correlate with compliance. Compliance is when one obeys the orders that are issued. Once a person resists and continues to resist officers have a legal obligation to pretty much do what it takes to get one to stop resisting and in fact comply. If I were a cop I would not get down in the mud and blood with a non compliant persorn but instead I would use my taser...pepper spray and baton if necessary. BTW...they are now getting tasers that can fire multiple times instead of just once.

IllTestYourGirls 08-22-2009 02:07 PM

How about this awesome one.

84 year old woman with Alzheimer and a cane gets body slammed head first into the ground for walking around a public parking lot.


u-Bob 08-22-2009 02:07 PM

If that's not police brutality then what is?

Machete_ 08-22-2009 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16222240)
How about this awesome one.

84 year old woman with Alzheimer and a cane gets body slammed head first into the ground for walking around a public parking lot.


She had a gun.

Dident you hear the officer say "mam, could you put down the gun" around 0:30?

IllTestYourGirls 08-22-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16222246)
She had a gun.

Dident you hear the officer say "mam, could you put down the gun" ?

Guns are not illegal.

PornMD 08-22-2009 02:11 PM

Here's my extended take - there are times when I think resisting is reasonable. Take this case:



The cop was being fucking ridiculous in this and I'm not sure many people would have NOT resisted his demands. In fact, it's amazing the cop was cleared of wrongdoing per the video.

Likewise I think there's worse instances of police brutality in normal pull-overs too:



Not that he was beating her but jesus...if the cop in the OPs video went up to that guy like that, I'd have more of a problem with it. Gun drawn, screaming, and trying to pull the person out of the car on a speeding stop just because the car didn't pull over immediately is much to say the least (and the cop rightfully got fired).

The way I see it, the guy in the first video and all guys that completely resist even simple commands like giving their license are either hiding something or WANT to provoke something and get a settlement.

Machete_ 08-22-2009 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16222248)
Guns are not illegal.

Old mentally people pointing a gun at people in public is legal?


Maybe she did it to make the officers kill her. Been known to happen

DonovanTrent 08-22-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16222240)
How about this awesome one.

84 year old woman with Alzheimer and a cane gets body slammed head first into the ground for walking around a public parking lot.


W T F. That's not especially favorable to the cops there. Those cops are lucky they didn't get mobjumped.

IllTestYourGirls 08-22-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16222256)
Old mentally people pointing a gun at people in public is legal?

Yeah all those people next to standing next to the old lady look like they are running for their lives. :upsidedow

IllTestYourGirls 08-22-2009 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16222259)
W T F. That's not especially favorable to the cops there. Those cops are lucky they didn't get mobjumped.

When I saw the tape that is exactly what I was going to see next. :Oh crap

I am glad that didnt happen.

Machete_ 08-22-2009 02:19 PM

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PornMD 08-22-2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisH (Post 16222246)
She had a gun.

Dident you hear the officer say "mam, could you put down the gun" around 0:30?

Per news stories, she had a steak knife, not a gun. That's pretty gnarly too - slamming someone that old on the ground could severely injure them. :( I mean if she had to, she should have waited for assistance in disarming her so it could have been done without a slam to the ground.

2012 08-22-2009 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PornMD (Post 16222251)
Here's my extended take - there are times when I think resisting is reasonable. Take this case:



The cop was being fucking ridiculous in this and I'm not sure many people would have NOT resisted his demands. In fact, it's amazing the cop was cleared of wrongdoing per the video.

60k Good for her :2 cents: ... they treat people like dogs and it's all being caught on tape now this shits been going on forever, tazing and macing when it's not even necessary - just because they can. A grown man couldn't subdue a female, he had to mace her lol :Oh crap

baddog 08-22-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16222181)
If he was unconscious why was he repeatedly told to stop resisting virtually to the very end of the tape? They probably should not have punched and kicked him...but instead used their tasers.

The guy was resisting from the word go and officers have the legal obligation to pretty much do what they choose to do to subdue a person as long as they continue to resist.

He was not resisting at 6:28. However, I agree, they should have just tazed his ass.

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Originally Posted by IllTestYourGirls (Post 16222240)
How about this awesome one.

84 year old woman with Alzheimer and a cane gets body slammed head first into the ground for walking around a public parking lot.


Bullshit. She had a knife and had threatened others. That is why the cops were there in the first place.

Many of those "standing around" were her family.

DonovanTrent 08-22-2009 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16222308)
Bullshit. She had a knife and had threatened others. That is why the cops were there in the first place.

Many of those "standing around" were her family.

If the cops couldn't get a knife out of an 80-some year old woman's hand without knocking her to the ground, then they need re-training.

As for that cop at the drive-thru, there are multiple dickheads at play here...

If the manager could've shown the cop the surveillance tape and the cop refused, then the cop's a dickhead.

If the manager just didn't want to show the cop the tape, then the manager's a dickhead.

Either way, she's a dickhead too for the way she acted. And the cop's a dickhead, too, for the way he reacted to her.

I ALWAYS give cops the benefit of the doubt. That said, being a cop is no excuse for being a dickhead.

Out here in Las Vegas, a cop was killed one night earlier this summer when he crashed into a guy who pulled out in front of him on Flamingo a few miles west of the strip. The guy walked away and was hauled in. The driver said the cop didn't have his lights on and was going way faster than he expected. The police chief issued a statement saying the driver was intoxicated, the cop had his lights on and wasn't driving unsafely.

Sure enough, two weeks later, investigations showed the driver WASN'T intoxicated, the cop DIDN'T have his lights and siren on, and he was going something like 110 mph down Flamingo. First time I've seen a police chief eat crow on camera.

baddog 08-22-2009 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16222345)
If the cops couldn't get a knife out of an 80-some year old woman's hand without knocking her to the ground, then they need re-training.

It was a very proper take down.

u-Bob 08-22-2009 03:05 PM

excessive force
 
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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16222347)
It was a very proper take down.

You really can't think of a better way to handle a situation like that?

baddog 08-22-2009 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob (Post 16222366)
You really can't think of a better way to handle a situation like that?

Wait for her to get tired? She was still holding onto the knife and fighting after she was down.

mikesouth 08-22-2009 03:20 PM

The problem is that all too often cops, specially street cops, are only cops because they want power over people, and that breeds what you see in many of these videos.
I had a friend was a city of atlanta cops and he told me some very sobering facts,

like:

He used to pinch drugs dealers, take their drugs and money, if he got a problem stop, a guy was "being smart" he would toss the drugs in his car, then have a K9 unit come do a drug check, viola...instant bust. and who is going to believe the guy who says the cop must have planted those drugs in my car.

as for the lie detector tests they took he said the first thing every cop learns is how to beat it by flexing and relaxing the spincter muscle during questioning.

As Neitzche pointed out "He who fights monsters must take care that he does not become a monster. When you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes into you."

DonovanTrent 08-22-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16222347)
It was a very proper take down.

Yes, it was. And totally unnecessary. Disarming a knife from an elderly woman should've taken 2 seconds and not required a take down. It's simple leverage. She had a fuckin' cane or walker or whatever for chrissakes.

Like using explosives to knock down a sand castle. "It was a very proper detonation."

You see everything in black & white, eh?

theking 08-22-2009 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16222347)
It was a very proper take down.

It was a proper take down and pretty well executed and the officer did nothing more than do her duty...though I do think she could have taken alittle more time to try and talk the women into putting the knife down.

BAKO 08-22-2009 03:47 PM

Fuck the cops

Babaganoosh 08-22-2009 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16222110)
only a fucking retard or a inexperienced kid would see it ... or understand it differently.

or a black person...

xxxdesign-net 08-22-2009 04:00 PM

so the guy was pretty much subdued.. the cop on top of the guy knew by now that the guy had no intention to arm anyone, yet he let everyone else use the guy as a punching bag... Couldn't 6 cops be able to put handcuffs on him without putting him in a coma? Couldn't they use their tasers? Just throwing some very complex ideas here, perhaps just step back, draw your gun and tell the guy to lay face down and not move?

GatorB 08-22-2009 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16222181)
If he was unconscious why was he repeatedly told to stop resisting virtually to the very end of the tape?

Because cops are fucking retarded. Duh. These guys obviously get off on beating the shit out of someone. One cop with a taser would off brought the guy down much faster and efficiently they CHOOSE to beat the guy. It's obviously it was for enjoyment.

theking 08-22-2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16222485)
Because cops are fucking retarded. Duh. These guys obviously get off on beating the shit out of someone. One cop with a taser would off brought the guy down much faster and efficiently they CHOOSE to beat the guy. It's obviously it was for enjoyment.

Officers are easy to deal with...say yes sir...and more importantly comply with their orders without question...and you will not have a problem with them. If you think they acted improperly in any way...that is what complaint forms...attorneys and courts are for.

SmokeyTheBear 08-22-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16222181)
If he was unconscious why was he repeatedly told to stop resisting virtually to the very end of the tape? They probably should not have punched and kicked him...but instead used their tasers.

heh thats standard procedure for an asskicking, in laymans terms its his way of saying " if anyone is watching i am beating him because he is resisting :) " the tipoff is when they say it very vry loud. The guy is right next to him, they could whisper it and he could hear it. They say it loud so we can hear it :) and maybe to drown out the voice of the suspects cries for help/ yelps of pain as he is beaten :winkwink:

xxxdesign-net 08-22-2009 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16222501)
Officers are easy to deal with...say yes sir...and more importantly comply with their orders without question...and you will not have a problem with them.

right... but if you think the cop is wrong or is abusing its power and you want to argue with him, calmly... ok, or not ok? Or is it always Sir Yes Sir!!!

SmokeyTheBear 08-22-2009 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16222501)
Officers are easy to deal with...say yes sir...and more importantly comply with their orders without question....

and likewise police should say yes sir and more importantly comply with our lawfull orders without question as we pay for them and in the end they answer to us.:winkwink:

I think we can all agree we would like police to be polite and lawfull. Their job description does not include "bossy" , "rude" , and unlawfull. :thumbsup

SmokeyTheBear 08-22-2009 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16222501)
Officers are easy to deal with...say yes sir...and more importantly comply with their orders without question....

so if some fat cop starts fingering your wife , you say yes sir and comply with his orders to lick his boots ? or are there times when you might not be so polite if you feel the officer was giving you unlawfull orders ?

theking 08-22-2009 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxdesign-net (Post 16222522)
right... but if you think the cop is wrong or is abusing its power and you want to argue with him, calmly... ok, or not ok? Or is it always Sir Yes Sir!!!

"If you think they acted improperly in any way...that is what complaint forms...attorneys and courts are for."

Says it all...if you do anything other than comply you are playing the game their way ...and I for one do not like playing anyone's game their way.

escorpio 08-22-2009 04:52 PM

All beat up with no race card to play. Sucks to be that dude.

theking 08-22-2009 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16222552)
so if some fat cop starts fingering your wife , you say yes sir and comply with his orders to lick his boots ? or are there times when you might not be so polite if you feel the officer was giving you unlawfull orders ?

Such a stupid fucking analogy that it really doesn't deserve comment...but to answer the question...

If you think they acted improperly in any way...that is what complaint forms...attorneys and courts are for. In the meantime comply...comply...comply or pay whatever consequences they may decide to inflict upon you.

theking 08-22-2009 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 16222545)
and likewise police should say yes sir and more importantly comply with our lawfull orders without question as we pay for them and in the end they answer to us.:winkwink:

I think we can all agree we would like police to be polite and lawfull. Their job description does not include "bossy" , "rude" , and unlawfull. :thumbsup

I am a pragmatist and live in the real world...maybe you are not and do not.

IllTestYourGirls 08-22-2009 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by theking (Post 16222579)
Such a stupid fucking analogy that it really doesn't deserve comment...but to answer the question...

If you think they acted improperly in any way...that is what complaint forms...attorneys and courts are for. In the meantime comply...comply...comply or pay whatever consequences they may decide to inflict upon you.

You are serious? You cant be.


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