trafficbroker - cheater ?
 

hi there, its Bravo from bravomediagroup.com
i'd like to publish some bulshit about one of traffic broker i tried

details is below:
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current orders for xxxxxxxxx.com

(5 orders , 2708 hits/hour) - 64k per day
http://www.domain1.com/index.php?id=8610 $3.5
http://www.domain2.com $3.14
http://www.domain3.com $3.12
http://www.domain4.com/tgp.shtml $3.11
http://domain5.com/html/2d/49690d638...a82522f2b.html $3.3

daily stats
59366 13286 1242 80.34% $2.69

sold 59366 80.34% sold average price is $2.69!!
and they promised 5% comission for traffic sale ?

much more promised 5% - looks like cheat?

i spoke with several other webmasters - the whole picture is very similar, seems like this traffic broker cheat us ?

ohhh ohhhhh SIGSPOT

Now please be a little more clear, I don't understand a fuck from this.

Yeah, I don't understand either.

You sold them 59366 hits and only earned $2.69??

Sure would like to know the name of the traffic broker.

hahaha cog...

(See Cig) Typing in the dark..

Whats his name dude?

thats unfortunate we don't see you as a seller so i doubt it us

Did you order traffic or sale traffic?

Why would you get a commission on traffic you order?

It obviously wasn't us but...

You may need to clarify if you're buying or selling traffic and what the 5% commission is for.

From the stats you listed the average price is $3.234 and 80.34% of that is actually $2.598. None of the numbers add up.

Please inform, sounds like a story hear we want to hear about.

tell us which broker so we can avoid them

Nice... 60K traffic and you got 3 bucks? That's awesome.. i'm sure it was a rogue programmer or a glitch in the system.. you know how that goes....

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He sold 80% of his traffic at an average price of $2.69 per K... that's what that means.

Looks like someone is cheating... that's for sure.

I was selling traffic to some broker.
After I had a look at the selling statistics, I found out I might me cheated with the price and income I get.

Main statistics shows for the exact day:
Paid - 59366
Returned - 13286
Test - 1242
Sold - 80.34%
Average price - $2.69
INCOME for this day: $159.6812

But also it shows that I have 5 direct orders for my domain
(5 orders , 2708 hits/hour) - its about 64k per day
order prices:
http://www.domain1.com/index.php?id=8610 $3.5
http://www.domain2.com $3.14
http://www.domain3.com $3.12
http://www.domain4.com/tgp.shtml $3.11
http://domain5.com/html/2d/49690d638...a82522f2b.html $3.3

As you see all this orders are for 64k per day, that is even more that i send to this broker.

Even considering uniqueness of my incoming traffic, it is 5 different orders with the average price $3.23
So I can even have 20% of uniquenes, and get my traffic sold to all this 5 direct orders (because 1 raw hit for first
order is unique hit for second). But my uniqueness is above 20%.

So with this mathematics I should definately expect my traffic being sold for the average price around $3.1
(not all traffic is sold to direct orders, but to nichemix and other cheaper orders also).

This was subtracting 5% bro

and after this i reading at their main page "our 5% service fee is the lowest in the industry"

could somebody explain me

2,69$ is really 95% from 3,23$ ?

or they really charged me 16,7% instead of promised 5%?

3+ times difference

It's not me either

was it protraffic?

95% of $3.23 is $3.06

Im sure your talking about Traffic Holder. Looks like their stats.

What your not considering is part of your traffic is also no cookie, no referer, proxy, etc. Which fetches only in the 1.20 range, this brings your averages down.

I dont think they are cheating you. Thats pretty common stats. Although your sold percentage I figured would be closer to 85 to 90.

interesting:2 cents:

still waiting detailed info from buyers about volume of their real delivered orders. seems like everything just my misunderstanding, becouse broker support explained me:

(5 orders , 2708 hits/hour) its just ordered traffic, but not delivered,

but strange..

the same moment they wrote i have one of orders with 9999 per h speed (looks much bigger 2708, right ?), and plus 4 other, i'm totally confused with this story and waiting confirmation from buyers about detailed purchased volume.

i'm not on the way to tell names without all proofs so i published it here without names. if i will be wrong i will publish my apologies here.

In for the drama.

maybe you should try a different source

So, spit it out....

Hmmm I hope you get it cleared up man :(

It's not any of the big boys - as soon as he quoted the 5% thing I knew who it was, they promote it on their site.

I took a look at this a few weeks ago to buy, but I couldn't get a contact for anyone there.

My .02 is that any broker / agency selling traffic is going to be easy to get ahold of - email, phone, icq / IM - whatever. When I couldn't find any of these things on the site, I went looking elsewhere.

I hope they can explain the numbers for you, and you get this resolved properly. Either way, let us know!

twinkley

We have explained these numbers to the Customer and even provided more detailed
stats. Not all traffic is being sold for this price (because of low amount of uniques).

Now any Customer can see how much exactly ordered and how much exactly delivered
to each order.

Thanks,
http://trafficholder.com/

oh trafficholder.com damn

yes, that's true, now everything much better, thank you guys!

but i see DIRECT order stats PER current HOUR, not 24h orders history, mmm, i cant monitor your admin area hourly to understand how much was sold per day

could you please add daily direct_orders' stats as well ?