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Shap 09-03-2009 09:07 PM

Here's a little Business Tip... Instead of saying Adapt Or Die you should be saying..
 
A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!

Yngwie 09-03-2009 09:10 PM

ya, adapting is simply doing what everyone else is doing and that will not increase your bottom line. Shap is correct.. INNOVATE OR DIE! Problem is, to many people will just follow that few that innovate and not really accomplish anything.

Nicky 09-03-2009 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Yngwie (Post 16275223)
ya, adapting is simply doing what everyone else is doing and that will not increase your bottom line. Shap is correct.. INNOVATE OR DIE! Problem is, to many people will just follow that few that innovate and not really accomplish anything.

Many will follow, some will have remote success, many will fail. That's why as you guy's say. Be the innovator! Or atleast be close to him/her :)

Shap 09-03-2009 09:17 PM

I can't take credit for coming up with it. I read it in this month's Success magazine. Here is part of the article.

I could not have said the following better. Reading it gets me fired up :winkwink:
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I define innovation as the never-ending pursuit of something better. This is the defining spirit of the entrepreneur?the desire to improve, refine and streamline the old ways of doing things to improve the quality of our work and our lives.

In business, as well as life, it is innovate or die. If you aren?t improving, you are falling behind. You cannot stand still. In today?s fast-paced, ever-evolving global marketplace, if you aren?t innovating and moving forward, you are effectively moving backward and the world is speeding by you.

Innovation isn?t some big-bang happening. It is something you do every day by constantly challenging your status quo: your ideas, systems, processes, policies, behaviors and assumptions. What has become an adage is now true more than ever: ?If it ain?t broke, break it.? To avoid extinction, change is not only inevitable, it is a necessity.
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You can read the rest here
http://darrenhardy.success.com/2009/...ge-creativity/

Sausage 09-03-2009 09:23 PM

Adult stopped innovating 4+ years ago.

Every new site or promotion model has been taken from mainstream.

Ice 09-03-2009 09:24 PM

I agree... why adapt... you just admit that you have lost and can't do anything about it.

Before tube sites people bitched about tgp's. There is always going to be something new that will come out.

I could write a novel about why the industry is the way it is today but at the end it's not going to change anything.

Evolve and innovate to get back what is lost from the free porn.


Jman 09-03-2009 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16275211)
A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!

I have the honor of working with people who think like you.

Anyone that says business is dead because of this and that is ONLY a finger pointer...

mynameisjim 09-03-2009 09:38 PM

Most successful businesses just did things a little bit better than the last guy. So hopefully that gives people some hope, you don't always have to reinvent the wheel, just make the wheel a little better.

Google didn't invent search engines or PPC advertising, they just made it a little better.

Apple didn't invent the MP3 player or the smartphone, they just made it a little bit better.

Facebook didn't invent social networking, they just made it a little better.

The list goes on and on.

SleazyDream 09-03-2009 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16275211)
A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!


i'm soo fucking sick of people saying porn is bad and then keep working in or comming back to it


shap has said probally the smartest thing I've heard all day

sheep follow and copy
leaders create and innovate

stickyfingerz 09-03-2009 10:08 PM

Innovate and protect your fuckin content people. :2 cents:

Jakke PNG 09-03-2009 11:32 PM

Why innovate when you can imitate? :P

SleazyDream 09-04-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakke PNG (Post 16275564)
Why innovate when you can imitate? :P


baaaaaaa - hey is that a cliff???? mmmm sexy

Robbie 09-04-2009 12:33 AM

One old saying is definitely applying to my situation:
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

This fucking piracy shit has damn near destroyed paysite sales. But it has also caused me to bust my ass and optimize everything I have to it's utmost money making potential.

One thing is for sure...when the solution to piracy finally comes down from the courts and an end is put to it...My shit is going to absolutely blow up.

Grampland.Com is the absolute best free site I've ever been involved with. And I'm lucky to get much traffic to it at all. Why would anyone bother coming to me when they can get entire members areas for free? But once that stops? I have my shit down solid. I'm still making good money off of next to nothing traffic numbers.

Let me get back up to a million uniques a day and I'd be the damn Scrooge McDuck of porn. lol

SleazyDream 09-04-2009 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16275645)
One old saying is definitely applying to my situation:
Whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

This fucking piracy shit has damn near destroyed paysite sales. But it has also caused me to bust my ass and optimize everything I have to it's utmost money making potential.

One thing is for sure...when the solution to piracy finally comes down from the courts and an end is put to it...My shit is going to absolutely blow up.

Grampland.Com is the absolute best free site I've ever been involved with. And I'm lucky to get much traffic to it at all. Why would anyone bother coming to me when they can get entire members areas for free? But once that stops? I have my shit down solid. I'm still making good money off of next to nothing traffic numbers.

Let me get back up to a million uniques a day and I'd be the damn Scrooge McDuck of porn. lol

you've always had good shit :2 cents:

Shap 09-04-2009 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jakke PNG (Post 16275564)
Why innovate when you can imitate? :P

Innovate is taking ideas and improving on them. It doesn't necessarily mean re-inventing the wheel.

If you aren't innovating you are probably doing nothing or copying.

B2BwithJoeD 09-04-2009 07:45 AM

Europeans Billing Europe!
 
"If it ain't broke, break it!" :winkwink:

Thanks for the motivational thread, Shap :thumbsup

BUSINESS IS BUSINESS

gideongallery 09-04-2009 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16275211)
A lot of you harp on the Adapt or Die statement regarding tubes. It's the wrong statement. The correct statement regarding your business (whether it applies to tubes or whatever) is INNOVATE OR DIE!

The leaders in our industry and others apply that saying continually. Think of TGPs. Would they be hurting as bad as they are if they applied that? Absolutely not. You can complain about what's wrong with the industry. But at the end of the day be sure to look at your business and remember to INNOVATE OR DIE!!!

the problem is that there are no innovative webmasters here, most copy other people stuff and call it innovation.

adapt or die is only valid statement for these webmasters.

Fletch XXX 09-04-2009 07:48 AM

innovation? where? Havent seen much at all in the past years... lol

Qbert 09-04-2009 07:50 AM

"adapt or die"... "innovate or die"... both are just rhetoric and boil down to essentially the same thing. Don't just keep doing the same old thing if it's no longer working.

Shap 09-08-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbert (Post 16276640)
"adapt or die"... "innovate or die"... both are just rhetoric and boil down to essentially the same thing. Don't just keep doing the same old thing if it's no longer working.

Actually you should never keep doing the same old thing. Because before you know it it will be old and then it will be too late to change.

NaughtyRob 09-08-2009 04:04 PM

Yeah I agree, its more like innovate and diversify or die.

wargames 09-08-2009 04:07 PM

Great threads lately Shap :thumbsup

I got a new one for you

Protect your content or die :winkwink:

Riffhard 09-08-2009 04:09 PM

I'm gonna start a free dating site. Then I'm gonna advertise paysites on it. awesome, right?

WiredGuy 09-08-2009 04:12 PM

Adapt or die = followers
Innovate or die = leaders

Where do you want to be :)
WG

Agent 488 09-08-2009 04:14 PM

adapt or die.

xxweekxx 09-08-2009 04:16 PM

innovation makes sense.. no need copying everyone else...

We've seen hidden cross sales, cross sales below join form, etc..

Im almost done with my new paysite, will payout $100 per join..

We will have disappearing cross sale.. yes..

Basically, it will appear for 1 second then vanish.. magic..

Also thinking of cross sale in a different language.. so if the user is american, the cross sale will be in chinese or romanian..

We could also have pre checked cross sales that bill you when you UNCHECK..

These are all innovations and ill make a lotta $$. . yea?

Also been thinking of cross sales that rebill after 60 seconds. sounds good to

xxweekxx 09-08-2009 04:23 PM

Heres one of our cross sales?Innovation =)

X By Unchecking/Checking this box, you agree to signup for a free 60 second trial to XXXwild, which recurs at $39.97/month.

Best of all its a disappearing cross sale.. comes and goes.. =0

Shap 09-08-2009 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16294026)
Adapt or die = followers
Innovate or die = leaders

Where do you want to be :)
WG

Exactly!

Voodoo 09-08-2009 05:19 PM

If you're not part of the solution... You are part of the problem.

Voodoo 09-08-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WiredGuy (Post 16294026)
Adapt or die = followers
Innovate or die = leaders

Where do you want to be :)
WG

You sound like a Visa Commercial.

marketsmart 09-08-2009 05:22 PM

i would rather let other people innovate and then just steal their shit....

xxweekxx 09-08-2009 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16294474)
i would rather let other people innovate and then just steal their shit....

smart man :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Twig 09-08-2009 05:39 PM

Flood the market with copies or die!!

BlackCrayon 09-08-2009 05:50 PM

Very smart statement. However until content theft gets regulated I think its best, for myself anyhow, to find a business were people can't get what you are selling for free at the click of a mouse.

Agent 488 09-08-2009 05:54 PM

sausage had the best point thus far: innovation in adult now means who can execute mainstream ideas in adult first.

NaughtyRob 09-08-2009 08:38 PM

First to market is very important yes but you gotta also do it right.

woj 09-08-2009 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxweekxx (Post 16294040)
We could also have pre checked cross sales that bill you when you UNCHECK..

Hey, that's actually innovative... "You will buy a 2nd subscription to xyz site at $49.99/month unless you keep this checkbox checked" :1orglaugh

BaldBastard 09-08-2009 09:44 PM

maybe we could take the tube scenario and apply it to the real world gotta be huge cash in it?

For Example: Buy a shoe shop, go round all your competitors and steal all their stock and then put it in your store and give it away FREE, you make your money from selling shoe shine at the counter, gotta sell 1 tin every 1000 pairs you give away at least.

Fortunes just waiting to be made!

SeanLEE 09-08-2009 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 16295215)
maybe we could take the tube scenario and apply it to the real world gotta be huge cash in it?

For Example: Buy a shoe shop, go round all your competitors and steal all their stock and then put it in your store and give it away FREE, you make your money from selling shoe shine at the counter, gotta sell 1 tin every 1000 pairs you give away at least.

Fortunes just waiting to be made!

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

the Shemp 09-08-2009 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shap (Post 16293776)
Actually you should never keep doing the same old thing. Because before you know it it will be old and then it will be too late to change.

Are you giving Thumbzilla a makeover?

Semi-Retired-Dave 09-08-2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 16295215)
maybe we could take the tube scenario and apply it to the real world gotta be huge cash in it?

For Example: Buy a shoe shop, go round all your competitors and steal all their stock and then put it in your store and give it away FREE, you make your money from selling shoe shine at the counter, gotta sell 1 tin every 1000 pairs you give away at least.

Fortunes just waiting to be made!

That was very well said.

fuzebox 09-08-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 16295171)
Hey, that's actually innovative... "You will buy a 2nd subscription to xyz site at $49.99/month unless you keep this checkbox checked" :1orglaugh

I have seen this done with opt in email checkboxes.

DamageX 09-08-2009 10:43 PM

How about CHEAT, STEAL, LIE OR DIE!? Seems to be working for many in this industry.

Agent 488 09-09-2009 06:17 AM

mainstream is worse. at least you get some kind of product in adult. mainstream is a cesspool of ponzi schemes and outright fraud atm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 16295336)
How about CHEAT, STEAL, LIE OR DIE!? Seems to be working for many in this industry.



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