Anybody watching Hardcore Profits on BBC?
 

I missed the first two bits of it when it aired so I am catching up on it through the Iplayer.

10 minutes in and only know two people so far :)

No not yet. But will do. Looks interesting

I am now at a part where US porn is now being blamed for AIDS in Africa. Yeah, okay. This guy is really stretching.

i still need to watch it, whens it on TV?

Not sure when it airs. I just finished watching the second episode. Beyond it being interesting seeing some people I know being interviewed, it is utter rubbish.

My favourite bit is where the guy talked to pensioners and getting them to express outrage that some of their pension funds invest in companies that have tenious links to porn. For example, Vodafone because some people watch porn on their phones and hence they make money. Old ladies getting ready to storm headquarters. Never mind that other pension funds are probably investing in arms companies. Give me a break.

I love the bit where they want people to pressure Google over porn terms on adwords.

A number of things anybody in the industry knows were not the full stories of issues.

The guy was trying and failing to be Louis Theroux.

maybe it'll be online soon

considering AIDS has been in Africa before it was known as AIDS. I mean like over 50 years I'm not sure how porn is too blame. Not to mention it got started from Africa when it passed from apes to humans. So where is the porn connection? 90% of the people that bash porn have jerked off to porn themselves.

It aired last week. How did my hair look?

Yeah well when we have religious people like Bush who say condoms are bad for Africans, I sometimes wonder if evolution has gone so far yet.

I think it was only a two part series as my Sky Info said 2/2 on the last one.

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He wasn't trying to blame porn for AIDS in africa he was claiming it may be part responsible for the spreading of aids as porn stars don't use condoms and when the African people see the porn they think it is cooler not too aswell.

I think the program brought up a lot of good points but yeah a few of the ideas were stretched. I don't think he was trying to change anything in anyway just theoretically asking. He admits on several occasions watching and enjoying porn himself so he is hardly against it.

The part with the pensioners was about trying to get more transparency about what the peoples money was used for as they could not find any records in relation to that. Especially in the case of the church investments who claim you would burn in hell for having sex (total overstatement I am aware they probably don't claim that before someone jumps in, they are against porn though) but it's ok to invest in companies with porn connections.

Anyway I thought it was interesting didn't learn much I didn't already know but it was good to get a few different perspectives of how the industry is doing and where it is going.

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You mentioned Louis Theroux, he is not in this I know but I must say his stuff is very good. Watched two of his latest pieces yesterday the one about meth and the one about sex offenders. Both where amazing.

Your episode was last week..it was multi part.

You were the first 'hey, I know that guy' moment for me :) Your response to him saying he felt dirty was perfect.

Did he come across as trying to present a 'porn is bad' type documentary?

I get the feeling he maybe doesn't fully believe the 'horrors' approach he was taking but knew it would sell.

He wasn't saying it caused AIDS to be brought to Africa. It was kind of an interesting point and I did appreciate how he got to the story. He was visiting a porn company in LA and they showed him letters they got from guys in Africa asking to be in their porn films. Then he went to Africa and tracked down one of the guys that wrote a letter.

Along the way, he spoke to people about how a lot of US type porn is making its way into being viewed in high quantities in some parts of Africa. Then, the men are seeing things like anal sex and going out and demanding their wives do it. They then tried to link that to rape cases and therefore spread of HIV/AIDS.

To be fair, the health people they talked to did downplay his concerns to some extent.

I have always liked Louis Theroux and he did a porn show a few years back which was actually done very well. His latest ones weren't as good for me because he is trying to be too straight with them but still good. His one with the God Hates Fags people was very good.

I thought he was on a mission big time. I turned it off half way through. Only saw the last one though.

I did find it interesting that our lobbiest in Washington was pretty down on porn when he talked to her.

louis theroux is probably the greatest journalist at the moment, the guy is brilliant!!
I got the box sets, theres a huge contrast from where years ago he was blatantly taking the piss to todays stuff where he is deadly serious throughout, the guy is brilliant!! :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Read his book that was out a couple years ago. He went back and revisited a lot of the people he featured in his shows and found out what happened to them in the years after.

Plus, I know I am a weird woman that has a thing for geeks but I have always thought Louis had sexy geek down really well.

Hahaha I was on that day.

There are a few things I would have done different had I to do it all over again but the experience was quite pleasant. There were actually 3 of them and we spent the entire day with them shooting.

Tim Samuels seemed to be a genuine guy. They were very interested in the industry as a whole and asked some great questions for months. I spoke with and emailed with them most of last year and part of this year. They were curious about dirt but they remained objective the entire day.

Funny thing is they asked me what I thought of Francis Koenig - I told them all the way back then he was a pompous ass that was running some game. I just wasnt sure of what it was at the time but I was pretty certain that it was going on.

He really didnt have much to say on camera. I noticed his big baller office was a TV set [a small one] and one of his DVDs. You notice that they filmed most of his segment on the rooftop and even though he said the business had made him a millionaire many times over.... her certainly wouldnt say what companies AdultVest has invested in.

I guess we all know the answer to that now.

Actually youll find if you deal with the mainstream media frequently that they all arent looking for scandal during the sweeps week. I frequently talk to the guys at G4 and Wired and they do get it.

I think from my varied interests and such Ive become acquainted with a lot of press folks or media darlings. Hell you were around when I first started hanging out with Kevin Mitnick. If you ever have any use for some mainstream media help you know where to find me.

KB isnt the only one that talks to them and as you will soon see hes not the only one that knows how to play to them without them realizing it.

We don't have sweeps weeks in the UK ;)

Yeah, that guy came off less than impressive. Especially when he was asked what content they wouldn't invest in and he gave it big that they had turned down tons but then couldn't name anything when pushed.

Hey, I first saw Styles and KB on a Channel 4 UK documentary years ago and posted about it on GFY. Now, I work for one of them :)

You..you just don't like my black nail polish ;)

Does anybody have it on rapidshare?

They werent very complimentary in reference to him.
KB has a certain style about him thats for sure. And a history of making a stir in the news. Celebrity is a good place for him. And hes a movie star!

You never cleaned that shit off your middle finger?
That was on there years ago!

And you dont come hang out like you used too.
Im still sorry Serge was such an asshole to you a few years ago.

Glad to see your doing well as many of my older friends in this business are and doing so quietly. This business has become overrun with those that are opportunistic.

We all used to have a lot of fun and make money without sinking to levels of taking advantage of the surfer and these days even our own.

These days the big ballers are trolling the greyhound station and myspace promising the runaways a life of fame and fortune.

I have it on DVD and you might be able to get a subscription to watch it on the BBC player abroad.

That's bullshit. African men have ALWAYS been against condom use.

I sat through the first part.. and thought it was sensationalist rubbish.

If a terrorist used a mobile handset, or bought some nails for a bomb in a store with a credit card does that mean they support terrorism. Honestly.

The implied logic and connections in this programme are beyond belief.

I'll watch part two and get even more angry I am sure.

Yeah I dont believe I buy the line of mobile being responsible for 2 billion dollars worth of revenue a year either.

Well, yeah that is the reason I stopped hanging there but only because I was still not in the zone to deal with that sort of stuff. I got over it :) Is it still up getting good posts? If so, I shall check it out.

Every time I see a hairy man in a fur coat, I think of you.

It seems to be doing fine and a great place to raise some real hell - Not a bunch of candy assed drama. Get your black nail polish and come on down.

That coat is still around here somewhere and probably the most retarded thing Ive done in my life. But even at that... several years later as retarded as it was... sure was effective!

Huge fan of louis theroux here.