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TheSenator 09-12-2009 05:23 PM

9/12 Protest Photos
 
The good ol' boys....

http://picasaweb.google.com/AUAndi/912Protest#

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4244831...7622224474669/

So, why are there some many white people???

TheSenator 09-12-2009 05:24 PM

Keeping it real...

http://picasaweb.google.com/AUAndi/9...68918697969874

Phallus Fondue 09-12-2009 05:28 PM

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2468/...924ee9ca_m.jpg

Helix 09-12-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16311832)
The good ol' boys....
So, why are there some many white people???

Dunno....Why do you suppose that is?

Phallus Fondue 09-12-2009 05:36 PM

pop quiz. name the 3rd world countries.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2444/...7399103fee.jpg


this one i just find funny.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2495/...4486d678_s.jpg


now i see why he wants us healthy and plump, he has plans on baking us.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2546/...8e44b9f8e4.jpg

gornyhuy 09-12-2009 05:39 PM

Whats with all the 'Czar' references? Do these people think that the Soviet Union had Czars? That the Czars are in any way associated with communism or marxism?

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 05:40 PM

And who's "indoctrinating the children"?

http://i29.tinypic.com/nf2ydw.jpg

Classy sign, too. I hate when people have their kids hold signs for ANYTHING whether I agree with it or not. Let the kids be kids and hold the fuckin' sign yourself.

And I'm surprised it took me this long to see a sign with Terri Schiavo on it.

http://i27.tinypic.com/24bksi1.jpg

And finally...

http://i31.tinypic.com/15p0uo3.jpg

I wish everyone who's hung up on the "czars" crap would read their history. The term has been used for Presidential appointments since the Nixon era.

TheDoc 09-12-2009 05:41 PM

wow, those pics are great.. so going to make some blog posts out of these.

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy (Post 16311873)
Whats with all the 'Czar' references? Do these people think that the Soviet Union had Czars? That the Czars are in any way associated with communism or marxism?

Czar = Russia = them damn commies. Don't you know that?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2s0mno9.jpg

Phallus Fondue 09-12-2009 05:46 PM

i am not a democrat, i only support obama because he is our current president and i often disagree with shit he does. did the same with bush, clinton, bush.
this shit is just plain whacked though and i hate to think it but i doubt we would be seeing the same shit if he was white. sure there would still be protests but they would be much different.

Agent 488 09-12-2009 05:48 PM

how long until another okc? i give it 2-3 years.

DateDoc 09-12-2009 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gornyhuy (Post 16311873)
Whats with all the 'Czar' references? Do these people think that the Soviet Union had Czars? That the Czars are in any way associated with communism or marxism?

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16311884)
Czar = Russia = them damn commies. Don't you know that?

http://i32.tinypic.com/2s0mno9.jpg

Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5

Agent 488 09-12-2009 05:57 PM

i really hope you are being sarcastic here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16311902)
Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5


SL|M! 09-12-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16311902)
Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5


but there were Czars before Obama, in republican admins, so I dont get what the big shitstink is about

baddog 09-12-2009 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16311876)
I wish everyone who's hung up on the "czars" crap would read their history. The term has been used for Presidential appointments since the Nixon era.

I believe the issue is not so much the fact that he may have a czar, it is how many he has and how many have had to resign in the few months Obama has been pres.

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16311902)
Do you not follow politics? The czar references come from Obama appointing people to positions and calling them czars. We have a healthcare czar, energy czar, etc. Here is coverage on it from a liberal paper - http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar...a-obama-czars5

Do you not know recent history? Here, let me help you out. From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_czar

Quote:

The 'czar' title was first used to refer to an appointed government official in a Time Magazine article in December 1973, referring to William E. Simon's appointment as the head of the Federal Energy Administration.
Quote:

Nixon and Ford administrations

* Jerome Jaffe, head of the Special Office for Drug Abuse Prevention
* Myles Ambrose, head of the Office of Drug Abuse Law Enforcement (ODALE)
* Dr. Robert Dupont, Director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse and head of the Narcotics Treatment Administration

Carter administration

* Peter Bourne, Director of the National Drug Control Policy
* Mathea Falco, Assistant Secretary of State for International Narcotics

Reagan administration

* Carlton Turner PhD, ScD, Director of the Drug Abuse Policy Office
* D. Ian McDonald, MD. Deputy Assistant to the President, Drug Abuse Policy Office

Since 1988

* The Director of the Office of National Drug Control Policy
And actually, looking further, the "czar" term has been applied by the media and others to high-level appointment positions since FDR's administration. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars

TheSenator 09-12-2009 05:59 PM

"You think Einstein walked around thinkin' everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? Now you know why he built that bomb." - Rita

Idiocracy

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16311912)
I believe the issue is not so much the fact that he may have a czar, it is how many he has and how many have had to resign in the few months Obama has been pres.

Oh, fully aware of that. But focusing any protest at all on the "czar" terminology and it's connection with Socialism (of which there is no connection) is just a waste of energy. Protest all you want, but at least direct it properly.

SL|M! 09-12-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16311912)
I believe the issue is not so much the fact that he may have a czar, it is how many he has and how many have had to resign in the few months Obama has been pres.

so whats the difference in having 1 or 5. A Czar, is a czar, so if u are against this whole Czar idea, it doenst matter how many u have, either 1, 10 or 15 u should be against it. So again, where was this anger against these czar appointees under Republican admins.

DateDoc 09-12-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16311915)
Do you not know recent history? Here, let me help you out. From:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_czar





And actually, looking further, the "czar" term has been applied by the media and others to high-level appointment positions since FDR's administration. See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._executive_branch_czars

So based on your previous statement they were all commies?

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DateDoc (Post 16311921)
So based on your previous statement they were all commies?

OK, so either you're just trolling or you have no concept of sarcasm.

Edit: I'll help... "them damn commies" = sarcasm

Gordon1 09-12-2009 06:04 PM

nice pictures,maybe some pic from nude protest?

SL|M! 09-12-2009 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon1 (Post 16311931)
nice pictures,maybe some pic from nude protest?

u see the white trash in those pics? last thing i wanna see is some redneck naked

Agent 488 09-12-2009 06:11 PM

that protest nude is a terrible idea.

just a bunch of dumpy wal-mart greeters and old ladies holding signs that say "don't pull the plug on me" who ironically probably will end up getting the plug pulled on them by their insurance companies.

baddog 09-12-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL|M! (Post 16311919)
so whats the difference in having 1 or 5. A Czar, is a czar, so if u are against this whole Czar idea, it doenst matter how many u have, either 1, 10 or 15 u should be against it. So again, where was this anger against these czar appointees under Republican admins.

Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.

TheSenator 09-12-2009 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16311967)
Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.

So, whats your point?

SL|M! 09-12-2009 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16311967)
Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.

so what are u against, the idea of a czar all together or the fact he has so many

baddog 09-12-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16311971)
So, whats your point?

If you can't follow along other people's conversations just STFU and don't worry about it.

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16311967)
Reagan had 1. Obama has 31.

And Bush Jr. had 35 czar jobs and 45 appointees. The number is meaningless, people are protesting it not because of the number of appointees, they've latched onto/been whipped into a frenzy about the "czar" title, thinking it's connected with Socialism. Otherwise, most probably wouldn't be focusing on it, they'd be focusing on an issue that's more pertinent.

baddog 09-12-2009 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL|M! (Post 16311981)
so what are u against, the idea of a czar all together or the fact he has so many

ummm . . . when did this become about me?

SL|M! 09-12-2009 06:40 PM

Didnt Bush have like 20+ Czars?

onwebcam 09-12-2009 06:41 PM

The problem with the Czars is they aren't held accountable to Congress. It's is true that some of them hold other positions where they are but in those particular roles, no accountability. Only answer to the President.

baddog 09-12-2009 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16311988)
And Bush Jr. had 35 czar jobs and 45 appointees.

I knew one of you would jump up with that stat . . . . completely ignoring the fact that Bush was President for 8 years vs Obama with his 8 months.

You never fail to let me down. :1orglaugh

SL|M! 09-12-2009 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16311988)
And Bush Jr. had 35 czar jobs and 45 appointees. The number is meaningless, people are protesting it not because of the number of appointees, they've latched onto/been whipped into a frenzy about the "czar" title, thinking it's connected with Socialism. Otherwise, most probably wouldn't be focusing on it, they'd be focusing on an issue that's more pertinent.

didnt he appoint Bolton to the UN without confirmation also?

SL|M! 09-12-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16311989)
ummm . . . when did this become about me?

so if u dont care why are u so worked up about this Czar thing

theking 09-12-2009 06:50 PM

Well...BadDog...are you all worked up? Placate he/she.

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16311997)
I knew one of you would jump up with that stat . . . . completely ignoring the fact that Bush was President for 8 years vs Obama with his 8 months.

You never fail to let me down. :1orglaugh

Who's "you"?

For the record, I think there are far more "czars" than necessary in this administration and prior. So don't put me into a slot so quickly.

You are either missing my point or deliberately obfuscating it. My point is, why are there people protesting "czars" when they could be protesting healthcare? If they weren't called "czars," I doubt we'd see people holding up signs saying "too many Presidential appointments!!!!"

They are protesting "czars" not because of the number of Presidential appointments, but because they are incorrectly connecting the "czar" title with Socialism/Communism, and many media pundits are taking advantage of that misunderstanding.

I don't think you could argue too much with that, whatever political flavor you happen to prefer.

baddog 09-12-2009 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL|M! (Post 16312002)
didnt he appoint Bolton to the UN without confirmation also?

Yes, because a few democrats in the Senate were filibustering to prevent the vote for 5 months. So Bush said fuck it.

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL|M! (Post 16312002)
didnt he appoint Bolton to the UN without confirmation also?

Yes, he did, but he's not the only President to do something like that. The mechanism exists and he used it. That kind of stuff happens on all sides.

theking 09-12-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16312012)
Yes, because a few democrats in the Senate were filibustering to prevent the vote for 5 months. So Bush said fuck it.

Yes...and did it when the Senate was out of session...and was a completely legal act on his part.

baddog 09-12-2009 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SL|M! (Post 16312009)
so if u dont care why are u so worked up about this Czar thing

Worked up? :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16312011)
Who's "you"?

Oh, I don't know, I guess anyone who happened to think it was anywhere close to an applicable response.

And how do I know why they are using the "c" word? Maybe they are pissed off by the growth in government, that is costing even more money that they don't have to spare. Maybe they don't like that Obama isn't very pc about the friends he has had in the past [and present].

Who knows, there are probably dozens of reasons different individuals are there. Ask them.

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16312021)
Worked up? :1orglaugh



Oh, I don't know, I guess anyone who happened to think it was anywhere close to an applicable response.

And how do I know why they are using the "c" word? Maybe they are pissed off by the growth in government, that is costing even more money that they don't have to spare. Maybe they don't like that Obama isn't very pc about the friends he has had in the past [and present].

Who knows, there are probably dozens of reasons different individuals are there. Ask them.

You've missed my point, I'm not arguing the subjective politics of it, I'm looking at it from a crowd manipulation standpoint totally objectively outside of politics. It was an applicable response BECAUSE I wasn't arguing the politics of it. Never mind.

Edit: As a marketer, you SHOULD be interested in the psychology of crowd manipulation. Political protests like this are a goldmine for observation.

J. Falcon 09-12-2009 07:02 PM

Those Obama/ Joker signs are pretty pathetic. As is the spelling for most of these hillbillies.

TheSenator 09-12-2009 07:02 PM

Hey guys....leave BadDog alone....

He is an old skooler...respect your elders. I am sure he has seen shit through out his life that has formed his opinions and views.

Now, lets get back to these amazing photos!

http://www.billionairesforwealthcare...at_capitol.jpg

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DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 16312029)
Hey guys....leave BadDog alone....

He is an old skooler...respect your elders. I am sure he has seen shit through out his life that has formed his opinions and views.

Now, lets get back to these amazing photos!

http://www.billionairesforwealthcare...at_capitol.jpg

brought to you by http://www.billionairesforwealthcare.com/

:1orglaugh Performance art.

PurrrsianPussyKat 09-12-2009 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16312027)
Those Obama/ Joker signs are pretty pathetic.

Thank alex jones for those.

TheSenator 09-12-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16312023)
You've missed my point, I'm not arguing the subjective politics of it, I'm looking at it from a crowd manipulation standpoint totally objectively outside of politics. It was an applicable response BECAUSE I wasn't arguing the politics of it. Never mind.

Edit: As a marketer, you SHOULD be interested in the psychology of crowd manipulation. Political protests like this are a goldmine for observation.

Just let BadDog be....

As a marketer, I'm interested in the manipulation of people. There must a be psychological profile that all these people have in common. I would like to see some actual peered reviewed papers on this type of profile.

baddog 09-12-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DonovanTrent (Post 16312023)
You've missed my point, I'm not arguing the subjective politics of it, I'm looking at it from a crowd manipulation standpoint totally objectively outside of politics. It was an applicable response BECAUSE I wasn't arguing the politics of it. Never mind.

Edit: As a marketer, you SHOULD be interested in the psychology of crowd manipulation. Political protests like this are a goldmine for observation.

To say Bush had 35 in 8 years and compare that with 31 in 8 months is not relevant.

I believe I did provide some reasons as to why those that are concentrating on the number of czars. 31 confidants that collect a check and have no one to answer to.

onwebcam 09-12-2009 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PurrrsianPussyKat (Post 16312032)
Thank alex jones for those.

Alex Jones didn't start the Joker ordeal. He just ran a contest on them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16312027)
Those Obama/ Joker signs are pretty pathetic. .

Bush was a Joker as well.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=e...=&aqi=&start=0

DonovanTrent 09-12-2009 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16312041)
To say Bush had 35 in 8 years and compare that with 31 in 8 months is not relevant.

I believe I did provide some reasons as to why those that are concentrating on the number of czars. 31 confidants that collect a check and have no one to answer to.

You have one channel you operate on, don't you? Here, let me try it again, so your hearing aid can pick it up:

I WAS NOT ARGUING THE POLITICS OF IT.

I WAS COMMENTING ON HOW THE WORD "CZAR" HAS BEEN KEYED ON IN THE EVOLUTION OF THIS PROTEST.

I FIND HOW IT'S BEEN USED INTERESTING FROM A PSYCHOLOGICAL STANDPOINT.


Geez, man. Lighten up for a sec, I'm IN AGREEMENT WITH YOU on the "too many czars" and "poor choice of people" issues. You didn't catch that when I said it earlier, did you? :1orglaugh


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