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Twistys.com
A long time I promoted Twistys.com with pleasure. Alot of new content, nice support and so on...
But then I clicked around and discovered their "No Xsell" pps link: h**p://secure.twistys.com/track/chickahoona;182101:noxsell25:twistys/ I was surprised when a popup loaded h**p://girls.twistys.com/console/ConP/ which actually shows thumbs with links to other affiliate programs. Sry if I may be wrong but I actually thaught that "NO Xsell" meanst that they will NOT show the ads of other affiliate programms. I also thaught that this may be a fault of some of their coders and failures happen and so I messaged Lisa my account manager: Quote:
I also had a discussion with Shap, the owner of Twistys. Quote:
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I'd love to know when posting private icq conversations became accepted.
Also my understanding is No Xsell = No Crosssale. Not no popup and not no links to other sites on a popup. Did I miss a memo where No Xsell became something else? |
Drama alert, seat taken.
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i don't understand? what's the complaint?
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You're mistaking exit pops with cross sales, there's a huge difference.
The term "cross sale" ONLY applies to an offer that is on the billing company's join page, typically something like "Get access to a 3 day trial of BlahBlahBlahPass." Box next to it is either unchecked or pre-checked, with details below as to how much the customer will get charged if they don't cancel within the trial period. Your traffic only sees these if they are in the process of actually joining the site, they are add-on sales that you typically don't get credit for. Exit pops are just a method of trying to still sell something to a person who is leaving the site without joining. Whether or not you get paid on these, and whether or not a separate "no exit pops" tour is available for affiliates to send traffic to, depends from program to program. There's a major difference between the two and you're getting them confused. I don't see any problem with what Twistys is doing, nor do I see a problem with their response. Edited to add: Shap is correct. You've been a member here since Oct 2007, so even though this is your first post, I'm assuming you've at least been reading. Posting private IM conversations is really looked down upon here and is usually a last resort. |
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The only thing this tells me is don't take the time out of my day to help an affiliate (often after business hours and weekends) because they will cut and paste it on gfy. A popup is not a cross sale.
Are there any real webmasters left out there? Honest mistake (technically not a mistake though) on twistys part. No big deal. Posting an icq conversation is shitty. |
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that's what i thought too, but it was so obvious, that even i noticed. so i concluded that couldn't be right! hah. |
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I couldn't be happier with Twistys as a sponsor, they track every click I've sent (tiny margin of error), I asked my rep (Lisa) about removing prechecked cross sales and three weeks later it was there. Twistys is also the only sponsor to offer me review site discounts even though I'm not sending them a lot of traffic right now, but it lets me stay competitive. These gestures have gone a long way to making Twistys far and away one of the top sponsors in my book. Lisa, my account rep has been the most responsive and helpful rep out of any of the 100+ of sponsors I've signed up with. I can't say enough good about them! So stop slandering a great sponsor because of your misunderstanding of terminology... Thanks |
already answered :)
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like the email one? |
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I KEED I KEED! |
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Shake Y'er Bon Bon Baby
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twisty's , try linking the images in your rss feeds to that model's landing page. The pics in the rss feeds are already big, so if they want to see more, have them land on that model's landing page. It will also help with deep linking for SEO purposes.
Try it for a week and see if sales increase. I'm sure ratios will take a hit... but it's about sales. |
I have to apologize. Im now two years in this business and never learned that there is a difference with xsell / upsell.
Can someone close / delete this thread? thanks. |
one question
does he get a percentage of the sales made in that popup? |
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Straight forward.
A popup selling other programs is NOT a cross sell. Twistys is doing nothing wrong there. |
Yo dawg, I put xsells in your consoles so you can earn while you earn.
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Private ICQ's on the boards is kinda lame.:2 cents: |
Wow, I didn't think this is a 2009 thread. First I thought it must be from 2001 or so. lol
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Backfire fail #2 for the day.
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Twisty's is a stand up company and has always been easy to deal with. Had several questions back when I started and Twistys Tim solved them all, even before I had sent a single hit, less a single sale.
Learn to do things right and I'm sure Twistys will take you on, but don't come around crying like you were heavily mistreated. They even escalated the matter for you, and how do you repay the courtesy? By slandering them back! A real apology would be in order, you come in here and talk bad about their business - please don't. |
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anyhow, the point is still there, no matter what shit its called. all spotted how the program owners and reps were bashing the guy? guess what. its called traffic leak. any better? :thumbsup EDIT: exit console = ok, popup = traffic leak |
That Twistys Lisa is excellent. Very professional and kept her cool against an idiot affiliate.
You should give her a raise. |
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i didnt say i agree with what the guy did. |
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If anything this thread is a testament to shaps/twistys support and understanding. so i guess at the end of the day chickaboohoo he should thank you for the good marketing you fracking idiot! To all sponsors out there, block his account....save yourself the trouble :warning |
Twisty's, you're still a'ok with us. I feel bad for you guys.
Before you post something, please ask around with other webmasters before jumping to conclusions. Mistake or not, Twisty's is now associated with negative feedback. :( |
I can't believe he posted that ICQ... that's pretty shitty whether you're new or not.
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twistys will always be associated with nothing but excellance in my book...regardless of a n00b....yeah posting any IM conversation is right up there with foolish West stealing thunder from the winner of an award...
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shap and twistys may be fun to jokely fuck around with from time to time, this thread is just dumb, they were nice and clearly explained the situation to you and posted a private conversation here on gfy.
This thread makes you look like a bigger idiot then I come off to be in half my threads. |
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LOL so if he went around posting this on all of the boards did he also go back to each board and apologize? I'm rly surprised he didn't apologize directly to Shap..
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Dittos on the "twistys is good" comments. Good people to work with. Of course
mostly we like them because they go around saying good stuff about us. ;) Looking at both sides, I can understand chickahoona's confusion and I salute him for apologizing. I've seen a LOT of people be proven wrong on this board and others, but damn few apologize. |
Thread closed at the request of the thread starter
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