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DebsDeep 09-16-2009 06:05 AM

Alternative To memberships, Have a look
 
Had this idea, seems the whole internet is more interested in buying just movie clips instead of memberships....

So, that being said I as thinking, everyone says adapt, try new ideas

Tell me what you think of this
yes i did this myself and could prolly be alot better but it works
http://www.debsdeepthroat.com/shop/

Lemme know please

CaptainWolfy 09-16-2009 06:26 AM

It's Great, how do you bill them? with your existing billing sistem or something else?

katharos 09-16-2009 06:29 AM

so ... how are your affiliates billed for the clips? are they also getting percents or ... ?

DebsDeep 09-16-2009 06:30 AM

everything is through ccbill, yes affiliates get 50% as always

pornmasta 09-16-2009 06:32 AM

use a system of points with an account that the user can reload.

mmcfadden 09-16-2009 06:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 16325447)
use a system of points with an account that the user can reload.

If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

Riffhard 09-16-2009 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16325463)
If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

Jim Gunn does the same thing I believe.

brand0n 09-16-2009 06:42 AM

would be great if they couldnt go to tube8.com and watch them for free

Jack Sparrow 09-16-2009 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16325463)
If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

Can they see example clips?

DebsDeep 09-16-2009 06:46 AM

I chat with alot of old members and new ones, many say the one thing thats stops them for joining a site is hidden sales, reblling after they have cancelled etc.....

Many posts here talk of tubes ruining this biz, I am sure of that also, however, I felt we needed to take this idea as close to tubesas possible, not to mention the fact that with the economy people are more likely to go or a lower price. To spend one sum may scare them off, but to be able to buy 1 or2 or more clips they may go for

I remember times of going shopping and before i left saying I am only going to get what I need, then fillling my cart with tons of stuff, why? Because it was cheap

Dunno, jjust an idea
I like it though
Debs

pornmasta 09-16-2009 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16325463)
If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

yes and from time to time give them some points so that they can watch some content for free if they give away their e-mail.

DebsDeep 09-16-2009 06:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 16325473)
would be great if they couldnt go to tube8.com and watch them for free

My clips are on tube 8?

katharos 09-16-2009 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16325463)
If anyone wants to follow up on this concept... amember.com is user management software. I paid them already to create a plug-in for their user management system. Members join up for free and then are given exactly what you mentioned, a point system or as I called it "tokens".

yes amember is nice since they have added the modrewrite plugin

mmcfadden 09-16-2009 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrfrisky (Post 16325480)
Can they see example clips?

That would be how you set your site up. You just put example clips in the free area and all paid for by tokens in the premium section.

I've used amember for a couple years and they have been helpful along the way. i.e. it was taking a long time for members to sign up for free on my site because I had many members, I started a ticket with them and they fixed it (after a few emails). I would not say support is the greatest but if your persistent I have found them to get the job done. Custom programming is available and is reasonable.

Mutt 09-16-2009 07:01 AM

why are you using aMember when CCBILL, Epoch, NATS all do member management already?

mmcfadden 09-16-2009 07:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 16325520)
why are you using aMember when CCBILL, Epoch, NATS all do member management already?

you cannot signup members for free with ccbill (don't know about the others).

IMO this is what all tubes should be doing... offer nothing unless an email and username is provided... then give them something but always push them to pay. It makes so much sense to me.

pornmasta 09-16-2009 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16325526)
offer nothing unless an email and username is provided...


yes and make the user check his mailbox to get what he wants to have.

candyflip 09-16-2009 07:13 AM

Bill from PhantomFrog has PhantomCart that does VOD/Clip Sales using CCBill.

http://phantomcart.com

brand0n 09-16-2009 07:15 AM

im not saying your clips are on tube8 im saying clips just like yours are on tube8

why would i give you 8 bucks to watch a clip you did when i can go to tube8 and find a clip just like yours for free?

in HD for that matter. or on my fucking iphone..

pornmasta 09-16-2009 07:19 AM

think about these sentences:

"if it is free that's because it is samples"
"if it is free that's because it is worthless"

DebsDeep 09-16-2009 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand0n (Post 16325556)
im not saying your clips are on tube8 im saying clips just like yours are on tube8

why would i give you 8 bucks to watch a clip you did when i can go to tube8 and find a clip just like yours for free?

in HD for that matter. or on my fucking iphone..

Or you could say, why join debsdeepthroat when i can just go find clips for free?
Very true but people are still signing up


this is just another way to make money.

DebsDeep 09-16-2009 07:22 AM

And thanks for the iphone idea...Lets sell ipods clips also

ilnjscb 09-16-2009 07:32 AM

filming a clip with yourself as talent...
 
How much does that cost? One of the keys might be pricepoint. Adultwork does that, clip selling with a free membership, but the prices are lower. There is a resistance level at a certain price, so selling a packet of "credits" and then letting the user decide seems to work.

alexchechs 09-16-2009 08:49 AM

very nice, we have been thinking of doing the same thing for one of our new sites

DebsDeep 09-16-2009 01:18 PM

its a pretty cool idea

DebsDeep 09-16-2009 03:23 PM

Its wasnt bad to setup, oscommerce witha few add-ons...plus osc is free makes it all that much better


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