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mmcfadden 09-18-2009 10:24 PM

How much does a tube site make?
 
Well I know that some of the newer ones are charging $500 for a year for ad placement.

The "bigwigs" out there... maybe they are charging $5000 per year.

So take that into perspective... how many "big wig" tubes are out there and how many "spots" do they offer... maybe 30? so 30 X 5000 is $150000.

So the biggest ones out there... how many companies can you rip off? Did you sell them a spot for 100K per year?? hahaha

nobody makes sales from a tube site and any company saying that they pay for the spot AND turn a profit are lying.

LOL... what a joke

Stacks Banned for Life 09-18-2009 10:26 PM

How long is a piece of string?

BAKO 09-18-2009 10:26 PM

any site under 400 on alexa is making $$$$$$$

cosis 09-18-2009 10:29 PM

I think most are operating on a loss. But considering large companies like Brazzers and AEBN own them they can afford it. Payoff in the end is traffic. :2 cents:

PatrickKing 09-18-2009 10:32 PM

The larger ones are doing just fine. The newer ones are hurting.

After Shock Media 09-18-2009 10:33 PM

They are making sales in cams and dating.
They also seem to do pretty well at upselling their own white lable paysite at a recurring fee.
I am also very positive the large tubes charge way more than 5k a year for advertising. Hell the site we are on right now charges about 6-7 times that amount for a full sized banner. (do not bash me if they lowered it a tad)

cosis 09-18-2009 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickKing (Post 16336929)
The larger ones are doing just fine. The newer ones are hurting.

Or consider legal tubes make zilch

mmcfadden 09-18-2009 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosis (Post 16336927)
I think most are operating on a loss. But considering large companies like Brazzers and AEBN own them they can afford it. Payoff in the end is traffic. :2 cents:

youtube is at a loss...

redporn is at a loss...

every free tube site is losing. I laugh my ass off... LMAO (hehe) when I think of this concept.

IMO... this industry, and not just adult, has got there head stuck up there arse :thumbsup

cosis 09-18-2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16336935)
youtube is at a loss...

redporn is at a loss...

every free tube site is losing. I laugh my ass off... LMAO (hehe) when I think of this concept.

IMO... this industry, and not just adult, has got there head stuck up there arse :thumbsup



Yeah however it will most likely pay off at some point

epitome 09-18-2009 10:40 PM

One of my sponsors is converting 1:98 on one of my tube sites.

They buy ad space on all of the tubes because they make good money on tubes.

They are not lying when they say that they love tubes.

mmcfadden 09-18-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosis (Post 16336943)
Yeah however it will most likely pay off at some point

I make now 150K on 2k clicks per day on a site I own... I also send that traffic to webcams and convert about 1:20 i think...

maybe the cam company i promote can step in and tell me what it is...

getting the most traffic does not mean bank... use the brain that was givin to you when you were born :2 cents:

cosis 09-18-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16336946)
One of my sponsors is converting 1:98 on one of my tube sites.

They buy ad space on all of the tubes because they make good money on tubes.

They are not lying when they say that they love tubes.

:1orglaugh

cosis 09-18-2009 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16336953)
I make now 150K on 2k clicks per day on a site I own... I also send that traffic to webcams and convert about 1:20 i think...

maybe the cam company i promote can step in and tell me what it is...

getting the most traffic does not mean bank... use the brain that was givin to you when you were born :2 cents:

thanks for your shitty words of advice

mmcfadden 09-18-2009 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosis (Post 16336959)
thanks for your shitty words of advice

np... :thumbsup

PatrickKing 09-18-2009 11:13 PM

Ugh,, just ugh. :)

fmltube 09-18-2009 11:16 PM

I wouldn't say they are losing money but its not a cash cow for sales as much as it is for traffic. Ive made more off selling traffic than I have sponsor sales but $100 for the tube script, $9 for the domain, $10/mo for hosting, I have already made a profit 2x and thats only 3 weeks running. Went from 3.8M in alexa down to 1.3M and will continue getting better. And I dont have to host any of the content and bandwidth is low.

Ad sales will be next so Im not overly worried.

TheSenator 09-18-2009 11:18 PM

Free bandwidth = about 15 to 18 Gs...a month

Peace 09-19-2009 01:36 AM

Interesting topic. keep going...

epitome 09-19-2009 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosis (Post 16336955)
:1orglaugh

Yes, please laugh. One less person to worry about developing a tube site...

For those that can get their head out of their asses and stop thinking that they know it all ... tubes convert and they have ad spots to sell.

Bandwidth can be a bitch but even that usually evens out of you have a healthy number of sponsor hosted vids.

Then of course, there is the preference that Google shows to tubes since that is what surfers want. If you thought getting a blog to rank well was easy ... try a tube.

epitome 09-19-2009 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16337013)
I wouldn't say they are losing money but its not a cash cow for sales as much as it is for traffic. Ive made more off selling traffic than I have sponsor sales but $100 for the tube script, $9 for the domain, $10/mo for hosting, I have already made a profit 2x and thats only 3 weeks running. Went from 3.8M in alexa down to 1.3M and will continue getting better. And I dont have to host any of the content and bandwidth is low.

Ad sales will be next so Im not overly worried.

Word of advice since you're new ... promote the hell out of PPS sponsors with a good trial. Make sure all ads mention that trial. It also doesn't hurt to check in on your sponsor periodically to see how your rebill rate is ... because if they're not making money off you then you're going to revshare. A lot of people will say "know your traffic" and part of knowing your traffic is also knowing that sponsors are making enough off it to be happy. Naturally, if they're an awesome site, revshare works best anyway, but with the recession, pre-paid credit cards, one-time use card numbers, etc., it can really be hit-or-miss.

epitome 09-19-2009 01:51 AM

OP, what is the domain to one of your tubes? I'd like to see which sponsors you're promoting ... since you're certain they're not making money.

Oh wait, do you even have a tube ... or are you just a know-it-all?

Barefootsies 09-19-2009 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosis (Post 16336933)
Or consider legal tubes make zilch

My pay site tube hybrids are doing just fine.
:pimp

Barefootsies 09-19-2009 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16337218)
Yes, please laugh. One less person to worry about developing a tube site...

For those that can get their head out of their asses and stop thinking that they know it all ... tubes convert and they have ad spots to sell.

Bandwidth can be a bitch but even that usually evens out of you have a healthy number of sponsor hosted vids.

Then of course, there is the preference that Google shows to tubes since that is what surfers want. If you thought getting a blog to rank well was easy ... try a tube.

Agreed.
:thumbsup

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 05:28 AM

Wow, so many of you have no clue. It's always funny to watch.

and 5k a year on a big tube? They wouldn't even reply to your email.

mmcfadden 09-19-2009 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16337218)
Yes, please laugh. One less person to worry about developing a tube site...

For those that can get their head out of their asses and stop thinking that they know it all ... tubes convert and they have ad spots to sell.

Bandwidth can be a bitch but even that usually evens out of you have a healthy number of sponsor hosted vids.

Then of course, there is the preference that Google shows to tubes since that is what surfers want. If you thought getting a blog to rank well was easy ... try a tube.

tubes do not convert... sorry.

Nicky 09-19-2009 07:43 AM

lol at this whole thread.

Fletch XXX 09-19-2009 07:45 AM

thats it, im starting a tube

fuzebox 09-19-2009 08:10 AM

:1orglaugh

I love it when mmcfadden gets drunk and starts making ridiculous statements on gfy.

Nubiles 09-19-2009 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16336918)
Well I know that some of the newer ones are charging $500 for a year for ad placement.

The "bigwigs" out there... maybe they are charging $5000 per year.

So take that into perspective... how many "big wig" tubes are out there and how many "spots" do they offer... maybe 30? so 30 X 5000 is $150000.

So the biggest ones out there... how many companies can you rip off? Did you sell them a spot for 100K per year?? hahaha

nobody makes sales from a tube site and any company saying that they pay for the spot AND turn a profit are lying.

LOL... what a joke

Here is a ballpark answer:
Legal tube sites that have established traffic (takes 2 -3 months if you know what you are doing) are making sales in the same range as the thumb tgps before those tgps started to decline, which was about 2 years ago. They are also growing quite nicely.
Not talking about the big tubes, or the ones who sell traffic.

marcjacob 09-19-2009 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16336918)
nobody makes sales from a tube site and any company saying that they pay for the spot AND turn a profit are lying.

Interesting idea. Sponsors pay for ad spots on tubes, lose a ton of money, then lie and say that they are making lots of money.

Because so many people are going to keep paying out money that makes them no return.

Why do they do this exactly?

mmcfadden 09-19-2009 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marcjacob (Post 16337793)
Interesting idea. Sponsors pay for ad spots on tubes, lose a ton of money, then lie and say that they are making lots of money.

Because so many people are going to keep paying out money that makes them no return.

Why do they do this exactly?

I don't know... exposure... a means to an end?

Naughty 09-19-2009 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 16337667)
thats it, im starting a tube

Haha, that is what I was thinking, since my TM3 version broke last week anyway. If only i had time to spare.

marcjacob 09-19-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16337796)
I don't know... exposure... a means to an end?

Bit of an off the wall suggestion here, but maybe they do make money on it?? :thumbsup

epitome 09-19-2009 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16337639)
tubes do not convert... sorry.

You're right. They don't.

ATTN EVERYBODY: Your tube sucks and won't make any money. Please transfer the domain to me and I'll move your site over to my server. I am doing this as a favor and will not charge you a penny to do this for you.

Why do you have tubes, people? They make no money. Every smart webmaster with two brain cells have a few ... and then there are people like me that do so well with them that they are only developing new tube sites for the forseeable future.

BTW, I got curious ... and GunzBlazing is converting at 1:69 on tube traffic for me. Tube surfers really like the Boynapped.com site.

Let me repeat...there is no money in tubes. I will take yours off your hands for free.

A public thank you to mmcfadden for pointing this out to me. My sponsors must be sending me fake checks drawn on fake bank accounts from my tube sales ... thank you to mmcfadden for informing me of this.

mmcfadden 09-19-2009 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16337819)
You're right. They don't.

ATTN EVERYBODY: Your tube sucks and won't make any money. Please transfer the domain to me and I'll move your site over to my server. I am doing this as a favor and will not charge you a penny to do this for you.

Why do you have tubes, people? They make no money. Every smart webmaster with two brain cells have a few ... and then there are people like me that do so well with them that they are only developing new tube sites for the forseeable future.

BTW, I got curious ... and GunzBlazing is converting at 1:69 on tube traffic for me. Tube surfers really like the Boynapped.com site.

Let me repeat...there is no money in tubes. I will take yours off your hands for free.

A public thank you to mmcfadden for pointing this out to me. My sponsors must be sending me fake checks drawn on fake bank accounts from my tube sales ... thank you to mmcfadden for informing me of this.

i'm here to help... your welcome :thumbsup

btw... if your developing tubes for the foreseeable future you are wasting your time

StinkyPink 09-19-2009 09:43 AM

There ain't no gold in these hills, so ya might as well go home! :1orglaugh

FrozenJag 09-19-2009 09:44 AM

Negative a gagillion dollars.

Who knows, no two sites are created equally.

Besides, there is a shitload of different types of tubes you can build so costs could wildy differ.

Manowar 09-19-2009 10:16 AM

tubeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees rule all

richrich 09-19-2009 10:59 AM

great entertainment on here!

RK 09-19-2009 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16337819)
BTW, I got curious ... and GunzBlazing is converting at 1:69 on tube traffic for me. Tube surfers really like the Boynapped.com site.

First, you are dealing with gay traffic, that's a different game. Also, where does this 1:69 ratio come from? Is that the number of people who sign-up for an email newsletter? Or a no credit card free trial?

epitome 09-19-2009 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16337830)
i'm here to help... your welcome :thumbsup

btw... if your developing tubes for the foreseeable future you are wasting your time

Oh, I get it...you're trolling. :thumbsup

andrej_NDC 09-19-2009 01:59 PM

$5k a year lol you can spend $5k a day on some tube sites on advertising

epitome 09-19-2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RK (Post 16338631)
First, you are dealing with gay traffic, that's a different game. Also, where does this 1:69 ratio come from? Is that the number of people who sign-up for an email newsletter? Or a no credit card free trial?

That is people that enter their credit card for a trial. Check out Boynapped.com ... that's the site that's doing it ... it's unique.

Yes, gay traffic is a different game. It's a more lucrative game. Having said that, there isn't a secret handshake required to launch a gay site ... anybody can do it. If they want to be homophobes or lack business sense ... hey, I can't do anything about that, can I?

EDIT: I think that is one of the reasons why people refuse to believe the ratios that can be had on the gay side ... they think it's only possible with cams or dating. Well, I'm here to tell you that there are plenty of gay paysites that can outsell a cam or dating site any day of the week.

'mo 09-19-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16336918)
nobody makes sales from a tube site

Really? That's interesting, perhaps I should inform my stats of that.

mmcfadden 09-19-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16338666)
Oh, I get it...you're trolling. :thumbsup

Nah, not trolling, just not getting bent out of shape on the issue.

Let's end this, post this months sales and just give us the monthly overhead.

'mo 09-19-2009 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by epitome (Post 16338674)
That is people that enter their credit card for a trial. Check out Boynapped.com ... that's the site that's doing it ... it's unique.

Yes, gay traffic is a different game. It's a more lucrative game. Having said that, there isn't a secret handshake required to launch a gay site ... anybody can do it. If they want to be homophobes or lack business sense ... hey, I can't do anything about that, can I?

EDIT: I think that is one of the reasons why people refuse to believe the ratios that can be had on the gay side ... they think it's only possible with cams or dating. Well, I'm here to tell you that there are plenty of gay paysites that can outsell a cam or dating site any day of the week.


Shhhhh don't tell them this! Next thing you know the interwebs will be full of gay tube sites that are pink with rainbows all over them, cause that must be what gay people want. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

'mo 09-19-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16338705)
Let's end this, post this months sales and just give us the monthly overhead.

I doubt anyone would post sales. He is speaking the troof though. Tubes sell.

mmcfadden 09-19-2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'mo (Post 16338696)
Really? That's interesting, perhaps I should inform my stats of that.

Please see above, that would be great.

'mo 09-19-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16338714)
Please see above, that would be great.

I doubt anyone is going to post their stats. Please see above. If you don't think tubes are making any money, there are 2 easy solutions. a) Don't launch one b) Don't advertise on one. Knocking people down because you can't figure out how to profit off of a tube site just makes you look like a 5 year old who is jealous that their friend has the newest nintendo game and won't let you play it.

Jack Sparrow 09-19-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmcfadden (Post 16337639)
tubes do not convert... sorry.

Wow.. did someone hack your account or are you posting drunk?

You are sooooo wrong when you think tube traffic doesnt convert. OR, did u mesn full length illegal tubes?

Tube traffic, when done right, will convert even better then 70% of the sites i see out there. And believe me, ive been doing about every type site ou can imagine.

My experience (oh and see sig) is that i have never been converting better in my LIFE.. even when everyone is complaining. I dont think i would be paying for 400-500mbps if i wouldnt be doing good, continuous, for over 6-7months now, dont you?

And i also dont think i would be selling the same spots on oneclicktube.com for over 7 months to the same people/company every single month either ;)


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