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fmltube 09-19-2009 10:25 AM

When to sell ad space
 
As my tube traffic is increasing, I have now moved up to 160K in US traffic. At what point should I start pulling AFF and GetItOn Ads and sell that space instead of hoping a lonely surfer joins a dating site? Thanks in advance for advice.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 10:28 AM

http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/fmltube.com

it's really getting 160k?

ROFL

fris 09-19-2009 10:28 AM

1.2 million alexa here.

when it gets down to 70,000 alexa you can start selling big ad packages

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16338105)
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/fmltube.com

it's really getting 160k?

ROFL

In US Traffic it looks like it unless I am reading it wrong.

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:32 AM

Fmltube.com traffic rank in other countries:

* 81,363 Netherlands Flag Netherlands
* 89,815 Canada Flag Canada
* 132,997 Philippines Flag Philippines
* 167,985 United States Flag United States
* 394,577 United Kingdom Flag United Kingdom

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338122)
Fmltube.com traffic rank in other countries:

* 81,363 Netherlands Flag Netherlands
* 89,815 Canada Flag Canada
* 132,997 Philippines Flag Philippines
* 167,985 United States Flag United States
* 394,577 United Kingdom Flag United Kingdom

so you think that means you're getting 167k in US traffic?

redtube must be getting 40 uniques a day then

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16338132)
so you think that means you're getting 167k in US traffic?

redtube must be getting 40 uniques a day then

I am getting way more than 40 unique a day

BSleazy 09-19-2009 10:42 AM

All the videos on your main page only show about 50 views combined. That includes your most viewed videos section.

RobertD 09-19-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338144)
I am getting way more than 40 unique a day

Sure about that?

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BCyber (Post 16338170)
All the videos on your main page only show about 50 views combined. That includes your most viewed videos section.

The views are reset daily

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by RobertD (Post 16338183)
Sure about that?

Yeah, I do know how to read my logs :thumbsup

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338185)
The views are reset daily

:1orglaugh

how about you add fresh content daily instead moron

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16338196)
:1orglaugh

how about you add fresh content daily instead moron

How about you go fuck yourself? Vids get updated daily at this point.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338213)
How about you go fuck yourself? Vids get updated daily at this point.

how did you come up with the name fml tube anyway?

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16338217)
how did you come up with the name fml tube anyway?

I thought just how pathetic you are and what would be the best way to describe your life and personality and how I would feel if I was anything like you and it just came to me. :321GFY

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338243)
I thought just how pathetic you are and what would be the best way to describe your life and personality and how I would feel if I was anything like you and it just came to me. :321GFY

I think you mean "I couldn't afford a decent name so I needed to semi rip-off the name of another site in hopes that retards with think it's in some way affiliated"

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16338252)
I think you mean "I couldn't afford a decent name so I needed to semi rip-off the name of another site in hopes that retards with think it's in some way affiliated"

You think this is the only domain I own? Silly fucker, move along Mary.

Loch 09-19-2009 10:53 AM

Melissa, this is your ranking, NOT your amount of traffic as in uniques
You are doing ok in canada but not good at ALL in the USA....and no you dont have anywhere near 160k uniques a day.....maaaybe 2-5000 at most

Fmltube.com traffic rank in other countries:

* 81,363 Netherlands Flag Netherlands
* 89,815 Canada Flag Canada
* 132,997 Philippines Flag Philippines
* 167,985 United States Flag United States
* 394,577 United Kingdom Flag United Kingdom



Fmltube.com users come from these countries:

* 57.6% United States
* 11.5% Canada
* 7.5% Netherlands
* 5.0% United Kingdom
* 1.8% Philippines

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338259)
You think this is the only domain I own? Silly fucker, move along Mary.

I know your other domains from googling, they're just as bad. :1orglaugh

fmltube 09-19-2009 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16338261)
Melissa, this is your ranking, NOT your amount of traffic as in uniques
You are doing ok in canada but not good at ALL in the USA....and no you dont have anywhere near 160k uniques a day.....maaaybe 2-5000 at most

Fmltube.com traffic rank in other countries:

* 81,363 Netherlands Flag Netherlands
* 89,815 Canada Flag Canada
* 132,997 Philippines Flag Philippines
* 167,985 United States Flag United States
* 394,577 United Kingdom Flag United Kingdom



Fmltube.com users come from these countries:

* 57.6% United States
* 11.5% Canada
* 7.5% Netherlands
* 5.0% United Kingdom
* 1.8% Philippines

I know Im not getting 160K uniques, but I have moved up to 167K in ranking for US traffic according to Alexa. Still for a site thats only been going for a couple weeks I am making progress. That will only improve with time. Appreciate you helping to explain in a kind manner.

fmltube 09-19-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16338263)
I know your other domains from googling, they're just as bad. :1orglaugh

those blog links are just feeders to the tube and I am not relying much on those right now. Im getting better hits from justin.tv bots. I have about 14 other domains to put other shit on but I am waiting until I find a better way to monetize them (either through blogs of tpgs). I understand your anger and frustration towards me because you know someone that looks like me would never give you the fucking time of day. Its ok. just accept it and move on. :1orglaugh

Loch 09-19-2009 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338266)
I know Im not getting 160K uniques, but I have moved up to 167K in ranking for US traffic according to Alexa. Still for a site thats only been going for a couple weeks I am making progress. That will only improve with time. Appreciate you helping to explain in a kind manner.

If its only been active for a few weeks you are doing very well!
But as someone mentioned you need to be below 70k or so at least to get anykind of serious money in.....and as im sure you know it gets harder and harder the lower you rank gets.

But it can be done
We have one site below 10k in 8-9 months

BSleazy 09-19-2009 11:02 AM

You shouldn't reset your video views everyday or ever. It makes it look like your not getting much traffic.

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-19-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338272)
those blog links are just feeders to the tube and I am not relying much on those right now. Im getting better hits from justin.tv bots. I have about 14 other domains to put other shit on but I am waiting until I find a better way to monetize them (either through blogs of tpgs). I understand your anger and frustration towards me because you know someone that looks like me would never give you the fucking time of day. Its ok. just accept it and move on. :1orglaugh

Right because I know what you look like :1orglaugh

If your brains are any indication of your looks I'm all set :1orglaugh

Twig 09-19-2009 11:04 AM

Do you not have any kind of analytics or anything similar running?

fmltube 09-19-2009 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twig (Post 16338282)
Do you not have any kind of analytics or anything similar running?

No I don't because I am still learning all of this. But it is definitely on my list.

fmltube 09-19-2009 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16338275)
If its only been active for a few weeks you are doing very well!
But as someone mentioned you need to be below 70k or so at least to get anykind of serious money in.....and as im sure you know it gets harder and harder the lower you rank gets.

But it can be done
We have one site below 10k in 8-9 months

That's what I was asking. I am happy to be where I am at this point considered I started this entire thing with very little knowledge and I am able to make this progress using only legal content. Im sure if I used illegal content my rank would shoot up but I consider myself to have ethics and I want to do this the right way.

Barefootsies 09-19-2009 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338098)
When to sell ad space

Answer:
When people will pay for it.

You do not have to be in top Alexa to get people to pay you for ad space unless you are looking to command a premium.

:2 cents:

fmltube 09-19-2009 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16338325)
Answer:
When people will pay for it.

You do not have to be in top Alexa to get people to pay you for ad space unless you are looking to command a premium.

:2 cents:

Definitely not looking for a premium because I no where near warrant it at this time. But it just seems stupid to host these dating ads when most surfers on tubes arent going to buy a membership when they are there to rub one out. What is a reasonable number to expect if I were to replace the dating ads?

I appreciate the response Barefootsies. I try to read everything you say because you really seem like you understand how to monetize everything. Thanks for your contributions.

Va2k 09-19-2009 11:29 AM

WOW is all I can say!!!

BAKO 09-19-2009 11:40 AM

You are getting max 150 clicks a day

fmltube 09-19-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 16338382)
You are getting max 150 clicks a day

How do you figure? In the last 3 hours I have had 3268 clicks and that is just off what the tube script tracks.

Barefootsies 09-19-2009 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmltube (Post 16338339)
Definitely not looking for a premium because I no where near warrant it at this time. But it just seems stupid to host these dating ads when most surfers on tubes arent going to buy a membership when they are there to rub one out. What is a reasonable number to expect if I were to replace the dating ads?

I appreciate the response Barefootsies. I try to read everything you say because you really seem like you understand how to monetize everything. Thanks for your contributions.

Thanks for the kind words.

I did not look over all your traffic numbers, so I am going to just drop a few ideas and you can take it from there.

You would swap out your dating ads for one of the adult ad networks and give those a try. Typically they are going to take 50% of any revenue if on a JuicyAds type of format. Or you could try black label or one of the others getting paid on a CPC like AdSense.

I personally have tried those and did not care for them. I prefer to sell directly at $100.00 a month, and do it all myself. Keep in mind however, I am a nichey traffic network. You are not going to have volume, you are going to have conversion (as you can clearly see from sites I sell, and how many sales they are getting on such small traffic).

However, doing it that way can be a headache as you track down people to advertise, and become a task at times. So you wanna think over the two carefully. Also if you traffic is low for a tube, you can always looking to start out $10 a month, and sell 10 spots. Track the progress, and as your traffic grows, start charging more. $10/25/50/100.... etc..

If you can show that your traffic can convert for people, regardless of volume, then people WILL BUY. So keep your eye on the ball. Good luck.
:thumbsup

romeo22 09-19-2009 11:56 AM

It does look good fmltube..nice stats.

fris 09-19-2009 12:06 PM

clicks and hits are two different things, if you are showing hits via your server logs, thats not a "unique" its a hit, loading a css file, loading an img file is a hit. if you had 10,000 images on your index page that would count as 10,000 hits from 1 person

fmltube 09-19-2009 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16338456)
clicks and hits are two different things, if you are showing hits via your server logs, thats not a "unique" its a hit, loading a css file, loading an img file is a hit. if you had 10,000 images on your index page that would count as 10,000 hits from 1 person

Yeah I saw that section of my weblogs that reflects things like that. But I have another section that breaks down unique visitors and the number of page views for that user as well. I believe the tube script I am using also distinguishes uniques as well but Ill have to check on that.

LeRoy 09-19-2009 12:18 PM

Some page rank might help. For now there is no PR.

Also dont reset the views. Surfers will look at the vids with tons of views.

Post some traffic stats for the banners here. Lets find out how much traffic you are sending to those banners. If you are sending a decent amount then people will buy.

Also some sales ratios on those banners will help too.

AmeliaG 09-19-2009 12:23 PM

Whose board character is fmltube?

kektex 09-19-2009 01:07 PM

I would get something like Google Analytics or Awstats at the very least installed on that site if you don't have it already.


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