Where do YOU stand?
 

Vote honestly, and let's see if GFY made the right choice.

Right choice with what?

god dammit man, if you dont know he made a choice for you.. vote #3

About skinning GFY with Tube8 and PornHub.

I don't know and/or don't care

Btw what is your stand on this Steve?

I voted "No", however I think they sold themselves out more than the rest of us.

I would truly like to hear an explanation from Eric about this, and how it different from the Guba ad debacle from a few years back...

ADG

i have my ethics intact - i am prepared for revenge down the road

I'm sure I made myself clear with these posts:

in that case, why not take your own advice?

If you want to show your disapproval of GFY, then stop reading and posting here. Otherwise, nothing will change.

With this new thread you are just adding more views to the GFY bottom line :2 cents:

I'm waiting to be banned.

Yes right choice for them.

I would have prob took the money if it was my board so I can't be a hypocrite.

Apparently this ad brought in more than the ave ad so it's just biz. Doesn't mean they endorse the whole tube thing.

It said to see with where things are heading people are jumping on wagon instead of standing up and doing something about in there case i'm sure it doesn't matter because the money has been made, it seems like it's every man for them self now in days.

I'm sure it wouldn't matter this point.

Sorry but thats just an attention cry to me :2 cents:

Good luck!

tubes don't scare me.

I'm against stealing content

I'm too lazy to find out for myself if those sites have stolen content, many say they have

Yet I'm aware of no small claims lawsuits against them for the theft..........

...because they hide behind the DMCA. Tube8 and Pornhub wouldn't EXIST if not for stolen content. I wouldn't accuse them if it wasn't true. :2 cents: They can sue me for libel, bring it.

When I first see the bg, first thing I think is hmmm someone in the tube game layed up some scratch. I don't really go the extra step and link it to GFY. But I understnd how many would feel betrayed.

For the record i do think tubes took a shit in the traffic pool and were all wading in it but that has nothing to do with GFY. They're just in position to make money.

The premise of the poll is flawed

GFY did what they felt was in their best interest, Eric sold advertising and I am pretty sure thats the Vice President of Marketing job. I wonder if the President of the company would have been pleased to hear that he said no to a pile of cash that high

it's still disappointing as hell though


spaz

I stand in the complete ungroundness of life... whatever.

:2 cents:

this thread was made just to get people to register at another forum, i doubt Steve really give a fuck what any of you think about tubes or the latest skin.

I did sign up there, and it's really dead. No offence... but I like GFY because it's fast. I'd completely own his board in a half hour if I posted there like I do here. :2 cents:

I would imagine Eric and Ice are on a plane to Amsterdam right now and not even reading the board...:2 cents:

another meltdown

Mistake or sold out.. I don't know. "Sold out" depends on how many prostituting themselves... Personally I won't participate in any of these "campaigns".

It's business, and none of OUR business.

If one of you morally upstanding big hitters book the space, then its not available for the tube companies to rent is it?

Also, if GFY don't monetise, (from anybody they can) then all the post crap all day people have nowhere to go.

At one pm today everyone stop using GFY and we'll show them who's boss.

of course by definition that means it not stolen

http://www.deletetheweb.com/unstuck/ren-or-stimpy.jpg

Get your head out of your ass you cheap ass mother fucker!


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sad days....


I should go back to black hat.

DMCAs only apply to user uploaded content. If it is a company that stole the content and put it on their site, that's theft plain and simple. No DMCA needed, just sue their ass.

DMCA is not valid law,since there is many stolen videos which stays there if no one complain about them.

Typical Socialist behavior.. Trying to tell everyone else how to run their business.

Good call on banning this radical. There is no place in the world of porn capitalism for these types.

Even if it is a user upload or whoever uploaded it, it is still stolen. Aren't there some laws that require you to log and eventually report crime activity on your website? There should be...

I voted...

I should have replied/quoted Steve, hit the wrong one. Steve said they hide behind DMCAs ... which is half true. Since the owners of tube sites say it's user uploaded (and no one has proved otherwise, yet) then you have to follow DMCA. However, if you can prove in any manner that a company that runs the site stole your content, they CANNOT hide behind DMCA.

can you show me a lawsuit filed in small claims against them that was lost?

Steve's had his forum for years - he didn't post this to get traffic to his board. http://www.bratcash.com/gfy/icq_bored.gif

Well, that's why there should requirements about logging and reporting. German court already ruled similar to Rapidshare and Usenet ruled to be responsible for user uploads. This is individual cases, but when the "protection" become abuse on big scale, it need to be forced through laws... or other restrictions.

I agree, if the user can't get in trouble for uploading it and it can be covered by DMCA, then why don't they release the IP addys of these "users?" I bet you'd see one IP doing A LOT of uploading.

Wow you really are pitiful. You can easily debate whether or not GFY should associate with tubes or whether they are harming others business or whether tube traffic converts...... but to deny or claim ignorance about the well established fact that they are stealing content is fucking pathetic. I know you are not actually that clueless so it fair to say you are sucking up to the big boys on the block for whatever reason. :321GFY

Dude, your argument that a lawsuit = legitimacy is flawed. Who has the time to chase down everyone who steals?

If someone, or say, a group of people not easily identifiable were using say... your logo on their sites or w/e equally valuable item you put money/time/energy into and it was affecting your business but not in a way that is directly measurable - would YOU spend 4-5 hours of each and every day tracking these people down, sending out notices & following up with a suit if they failed to comply?

Who has time for that!?

The bottom line is that this industry has been consuming itself for a very, very long time. We proved to ourselves time and again how divided we are, and how money is king in this business. There were people bitching about too much given away during pic tgp days, then movie tgp days that was the new end of the world...

It's like the corpse has long been dead on industry collectivism, and everyone just now is realizing it.

I fully support GFY and their decision to accept TrafficJunky as a sponsor.

Why has nobody sued???

right
except with scaping protected by cache ruling
and user actually submitting

do you know of any tube sites actually stupid enough to "pirate" and upload the content themselves.

None are so that a straw man arguement
and you should know it.

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Yes, I do. And yes, there is proof.

so if you have such proof why don't you just sue them, DMCA would not apply
and they obviously have money since they paid for the skinning of this board

or at least post the proof so that someone else with the balls can go after them.

WTF whats next.....
 

I am sorry. When someone like Steve can't speak out on a board he supported for years then its time to tear it down and start over. I agree I am tired of being ripped off and ANYONE supporting theft is WRONG! Its that Simple. I will not be buying any advertising here ever again.



Thomas.
aka Paul