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mpahlca 10-02-2009 10:46 AM

Ask me anything for the next 2 hours...
 
Thats right two hours this week i will check back every 5 minutes or so go wild.

96ukssob 10-02-2009 10:47 AM

Isn't Toronto turning into a big gay area?

fris 10-02-2009 10:48 AM

hows twistys doing?

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2009 10:49 AM

What happened with your job at Twistys, fired?

mpahlca 10-02-2009 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 16383003)
Isn't Toronto turning into a big gay area?

Not that i know of no different than normal

mpahlca 10-02-2009 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16383008)
hows twistys doing?

Pretty well overall I think it could do better than it is but i think that of all our sites.

mpahlca 10-02-2009 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16383011)
What happened with your job at Twistys, fired?

LOL i dont think i could get fired if i tried, however i still work for Shap. email me at michael at twistys.com

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2009 10:55 AM

Why did you remove them from your sig

mpahlca 10-02-2009 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by area51 (Post 16383038)
Why did you remove them from your sig

Bored honestly i had the same sig for the last 3 years with some small changes so changed it up.

TheStout 10-02-2009 10:57 AM

Who has the best traffic out there that you know of (Quality and price wise)??? You can ICQ me this info if you want ;)

The Porn Nerd 10-02-2009 10:57 AM

Okay, I have an advertising budget of $300 (perhaps willing to go a couple hundred higher) to spend for a single month. My goal (obviously) is to make sales for my paysites. So: how do I spend it? Buying ads? Where? Buying traffic? Been there, done that, mostly sucks don't wanna do it again. So NON-traffic buying ideas please?

I saw Elephants is charging $79 for a month's submissions. How does that work? Pay them $79 and I get to submit to their TGP? What if I don't make any sales? LOL

Any sites I should buy banners on? Ad spaces? Hard links? In short, where can I get the best bang for my buck(s)?

Thanks dude - you rock! (As does Twistys - been yankin' it to Twistys for eons!)

- Mr. P.

Actual Mike 10-02-2009 11:03 AM

Did they fake the moon landing?

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheStout (Post 16383050)
Who has the best traffic out there that you know of (Quality and price wise)??? You can ICQ me this info if you want ;)

hmm quality and price, depends on what you are selling really traffic to me never has a quality level it depends on how you sell, for instance if i was buying higher "skim" traffic i would be more agressive with a shorter fold join option and a faster thru put on forms, than i would for say google referrer ;) for a specific site that i have always liked buying from worldsex.com is great never lets me down. (Pierre you can give me a discount any time you read this)

NetHorse 10-02-2009 11:06 AM

I'll be in Toronto next weekend, how's the weather?

seeandsee 10-02-2009 11:10 AM

whats uppppp? :D

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16383052)
Okay, I have an advertising budget of $300 (perhaps willing to go a couple hundred higher) to spend for a single month. My goal (obviously) is to make sales for my paysites. So: how do I spend it? Buying ads? Where? Buying traffic? Been there, done that, mostly sucks don't wanna do it again. So NON-traffic buying ideas please?

I saw Elephants is charging $79 for a month's submissions. How does that work? Pay them $79 and I get to submit to their TGP? What if I don't make any sales? LOL

Any sites I should buy banners on? Ad spaces? Hard links? In short, where can I get the best bang for my buck(s)?

Thanks dude - you rock! (As does Twistys - been yankin' it to Twistys for eons!)

- Mr. P.

Ok lets break it down:

Budget 300
-mix up your purchases
-buy 150 worth of submit accounts and 150 worth of direct ads
- submit accounts buy elephant and worldsex for one month (have your galleries ready in advance and your hosting worked out before starting also be prepared to submit for two months with 0 return) (also on galleries less design is better FHG are a terrible example of how to get sales out of gallery traffic just an fyi)
-buy direct spots at tops of tgps if possible medium to small is ok if you get a top spot banner that is all branding, and is niche matching yours.
- For the elephants question you may not make sales your first month you need to learn about two things gallery click thru rates, and then paysite click thru rates they are two different goals. One the gallery's goal is to get traffic to the tour, its the tours job to sell, so if you can lower your price and streamline your join process on your own traffic cut the membership price to half or whatever you would make on your own ;)

Last part answered a few sites that i like.

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WirecardMike (Post 16383076)
Did they fake the moon landing?

Which one? if you mean the one that was on TV my personal opinion is no they didnt fake it.

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse (Post 16383096)
I'll be in Toronto next weekend, how's the weather?

Cold and rainy today

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee (Post 16383113)
whats uppppp? :D

not much kumusta ka ikaw?

The Porn Nerd 10-02-2009 11:22 AM

"For the elephants question you may not make sales your first month you need to learn about two things gallery click thru rates, and then paysite click thru rates they are two different goals. One the gallery's goal is to get traffic to the tour, its the tours job to sell, so if you can lower your price and streamline your join process on your own traffic cut the membership price to half or whatever you would make on your own ;)"


Okay, so I understand about gallery traffic rates and conversion rates (believe me, I know the conversion rates for all my sites cold). But I didn't understand what you meant about 'lowering the price' and 'streamlining the Join process'.

1. The price is set as one price gets you into the entire network. Plus, I have to split with models, partners, affiliates, then there's hosting fees, video feeds fees, on and on. The pie is only so big and therefore I cannot cut my membership price.

2. The Join process IS fairly simple as it is: click 'Join' or 'Instant Access' and get taken directly to the CCBill signup form. Can't get much more streamlined then that, can it?

Also: If it takes two months to get any sales then the first two months are what, a waste? Or do these TGPs have a 'cumulative' affect? I mean, why 2 months and not right away? If the tour does it's job then sales should come sooner, no?

The Porn Nerd 10-02-2009 11:32 AM

Last question (for today):
Where should I go to shoot hardcore content on the 'cheap' (meaning: under $300 for the female talent)? Canada? Where? The US? Where? I can't afford 'pro' prices of $800-$1000 per scene. I'd be the 'stunt cock' shooting everything in POV.

Thanks again awesome one!

dyna mo 10-02-2009 11:38 AM

due to the economy and the shift in our industry re: traffic, etc, i recently back-burnered a micro-niched site project i started working on a few months ago and have invested ~$2k in. it needs about another $8k to launch. should i continue to hold-off until traffic and such get sorted out or should i go for it now and take the risk with the $8k?

:thumbsup

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16383186)
Okay, so I understand about gallery traffic rates and conversion rates (believe me, I know the conversion rates for all my sites cold). But I didn't understand what you meant about 'lowering the price' and 'streamlining the Join process'.

1. The price is set as one price gets you into the entire network. Plus, I have to split with models, partners, affiliates, then there's hosting fees, video feeds fees, on and on. The pie is only so big and therefore I cannot cut my membership price.

2. The Join process IS fairly simple as it is: click 'Join' or 'Instant Access' and get taken directly to the CCBill signup form. Can't get much more streamlined then that, can it?

Also: If it takes two months to get any sales then the first two months are what, a waste? Or do these TGPs have a 'cumulative' affect? I mean, why 2 months and not right away? If the tour does it's job then sales should come sooner, no?

1. the price you set for your sites is up to you, you can change the price based on the fact that their is no affiliate etc to split with so you can reduce the join price to increase the joins. (IE you set up a tour only for your own traffic)

2. this page (http://www.themisterpeabody.com/ccbill/index.htm) can be done 100% better you can completely change it and make it a much better more standard experience) also you need to have a join option higher on your tour so the minute it loads someone can click join.

Also: it may not take two months to get sales but will take that amount of time to build up traffic to your site. And yes it does have a cumulative effect. (you should get sales right off the bat however most tgps dont approve every gallery so you would have some back and forth.)

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MisterPeabody (Post 16383247)
Last question (for today):
Where should I go to shoot hardcore content on the 'cheap' (meaning: under $300 for the female talent)? Canada? Where? The US? Where? I can't afford 'pro' prices of $800-$1000 per scene. I'd be the 'stunt cock' shooting everything in POV.

Thanks again awesome one!

Europe would be best

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16383280)
due to the economy and the shift in our industry re: traffic, etc, i recently back-burnered a micro-niched site project i started working on a few months ago and have invested ~$2k in. it needs about another $8k to launch. should i continue to hold-off until traffic and such get sorted out or should i go for it now and take the risk with the $8k?

:thumbsup

I think i would need more info, no project in adult unless its a lot of exclusive content should need that much to get launched.

dyna mo 10-02-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16383340)
I think i would need more info, no project in adult unless its a lot of exclusive content should need that much to get launched.

well, i have budgeted abuot 20% more than i actually hope to spend for launch, it is all exclusive content shot myself. ~20 scenes, site design and advertising/marketing = 8-10k$

i figure i need 20 scenes for a decent launch, i hire the talent for a full day and get 3 scenes, so 7 days of shoots

so each girl will have 3 scenes available.

:thumbsup

DamageX 10-02-2009 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bossku69 (Post 16383003)
Isn't Toronto turning into a big gay area?

Why do you think he moved there? :Graucho

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16383367)
well, i have budgeted abuot 20% more than i actually hope to spend for launch, it is all exclusive content shot myself. ~20 scenes, site design and advertising/marketing = 8-10k$

i figure i need 20 scenes for a decent launch, i hire the talent for a full day and get 3 scenes, so 7 days of shoots

so each girl will have 3 scenes available.

:thumbsup

You need 6 scenes to launch so launch sooner spend less

dyna mo 10-02-2009 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16383385)
You need 6 scenes to launch so launch sooner spend less

dang really? well, i don't see why not eh.

should i invest some ad dollars in tube traffic? or stick with niched tgp/mgp? maybe even a large mgp or 2?

this is also a non-affiliate based business plan.

the site will offer micro-payments to puchase individual scenes (movie and/or pics) and a subscription option to get access to everything( i am thinking of making the subscription side streaming only)

what are your thoughts on that?

thx:thumbsup

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 16383368)
Why do you think he moved there? :Graucho

Wanted to stay far away from you actually :P

mpahlca 10-02-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16383427)
dang really? well, i don't see why not eh.

should i invest some ad dollars in tube traffic? or stick with niched tgp/mgp? maybe even a large mgp or 2?

this is also a non-affiliate based business plan.

the site will offer micro-payments to puchase individual scenes (movie and/or pics) and a subscription option to get access to everything( i am thinking of making the subscription side streaming only)

what are your thoughts on that?

thx:thumbsup

I like the idea a lot that is all i will say lol, as for advertising start small test on smaller runs of traffic then expand on whats working. Look for a 5% roi and you would be laughing.

Agent 488 10-02-2009 11:59 AM

what sites/products work best on a gay tube?

DamageX 10-02-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16383429)
Wanted to stay far away from you actually :P

Wrong city, in that case. Didn't I tell you I have relatives in Toronto? :P

The Porn Nerd 10-02-2009 12:03 PM

Thanks dude!! GREAT advice!!

dyna mo 10-02-2009 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16383437)
I like the idea a lot that is all i will say lol, as for advertising start small test on smaller runs of traffic then expand on whats working. Look for a 5% roi and you would be laughing.

i appreciate your time and thoughtful replies, thank you!

i hope you enjoy your weekend!

:thumbsup

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16383440)
what sites/products work best on a gay tube?

We push a ton of programs as I always believe in rebills we push a lot of smaller ccbill sites or epoch affilaite sites, things that are unique, i dont push stupid ass re hashed content unless its BULK ie dvd site, so overall CCBill sites (but thats a shit load of sites) then intense cash those guys really kill it for us we do under 1:200 non stop, and rebill for ages.

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DamageX (Post 16383441)
Wrong city, in that case. Didn't I tell you I have relatives in Toronto? :P

OMG i am moving back to Vancouver fuck i thought we had a no swedes law?

rhon23 10-02-2009 12:13 PM

whats your thoughts on girls using plungers?

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rhon23 (Post 16383491)
whats your thoughts on girls using plungers?

Very hot

http://thechive.com/2009/10/hot-chicks-with-plungers/

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:35 PM

10 minutes left

J$tyle$ 10-02-2009 12:39 PM

Hey man - can you hit me on ICQ when you have a sec?

Good thread btw! :)

TheStout 10-02-2009 12:42 PM

If you could visit any city in the world where would you go and why?

Also,

If who has the best member area you have ever seen and what did you like about it? Not dating or cams

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J$tyle$ (Post 16383552)
Hey man - can you hit me on ICQ when you have a sec?

Good thread btw! :)

Will try in a minute

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheStout (Post 16383560)
If you could visit any city in the world where would you go and why?

Also,

If who has the best member area you have ever seen and what did you like about it? Not dating or cams

I like a mix for actual usage videosz.com (i like what they did with thirdmovies.com the feel to that site is really nice.) is really friendly but i think they and brazzers have the same problem trying to give too many options to the surfer on one page, not letting the member navigate and "flow thru the site" I would prefer a simpler main page with a lot of search relevance and time spent on that.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2009 12:49 PM

I just ate a whole head of broccoli, do you like broccoli too?

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:49 PM

And thats it for another week of Ask Michael anything.

mpahlca 10-02-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Killswitch (Post 16383581)
I just ate a whole head of broccoli, do you like broccoli too?

Only cause you beat me to the wire yes i like broccoli very much i eat it raw sometimes with dip.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-02-2009 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by mpahlca (Post 16383584)
Only cause you beat me to the wire yes i like broccoli very much i eat it raw sometimes with dip.

That's awesome, my favorite way is steamed with cheese, but raw with some ranch dip, and you're rocking out.

mpahlca 10-02-2009 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheStout (Post 16383560)
If you could visit any city in the world where would you go and why?

Also,

If who has the best member area you have ever seen and what did you like about it? Not dating or cams

Sorry missed the first part, i would probably go back to Auckland but take my wife and daughter so they could see New Zealand maybe travel around the districts there and enjoy. And i would go to try and convince her to move their someday :)


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