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SeanLEE 10-14-2009 10:40 AM

Will 100K USD Get Me A LiveJasmin/AWE clone?
 
How much money does it take to make a system similar to LiveJasmin/AWE?

What is needed? Servers? Bandwidth cost? Type Of Programmers? Type Of Designers? Customer Support? Marketing campaigns?

Should I have a bunch of webcam studios before I begin trying to create my own cam program?

Can 100K USD get me all the components of a mainstream webcam program? What do I need to do to get started?

Can someone advise?

Also; Are their any mainstream webcam companies for sale? Im interested-

Thanks in advance.

SeanLEE

Matyko 10-14-2009 10:50 AM

you underestimate the costs by far.

LeRoy 10-14-2009 10:56 AM

100k will get you started but you'll need a lot more to get traffic, models, affiliates and sales

SeanLEE 10-14-2009 11:59 AM

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totalsexcams 10-14-2009 12:13 PM

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atom 10-14-2009 12:16 PM

I would say you will at least need 100-200k to bankroll affiliate payroll and adbuys when you first launch.

InternetIsForPorn 10-14-2009 12:22 PM

$100k will be more than enough if you know what you're doing -- and where to do it.

Hit me up, I will help you with this -- thatporndude at gmail com

ContentPimp 10-14-2009 12:22 PM

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SeanLEE 10-14-2009 12:47 PM

anyone else- who can assist me with this?

alias 10-14-2009 12:48 PM

Hit up that camgirls.com guy.

AaliyahLove 10-14-2009 12:50 PM

if you are serious about this you need to hit up cam_girls. He's got the entire webcam game all figured out!!

seeandsee 10-14-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 16427808)
How much money does it take to make a system similar to LiveJasmin/AWE?

What is needed? Servers? Bandwidth cost? Type Of Programmers? Type Of Designers? Customer Support? Marketing campaigns?

Should I have a bunch of webcam studios before I begin trying to create my own cam program?

Can 100K USD get me all the components of a mainstream webcam program? What do I need to do to get started?

Can someone advise?

Also; Are their any mainstream webcam companies for sale? Im interested-

Thanks in advance.

SeanLEE

make big cash

AaliyahLove 10-14-2009 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16428271)
Hit up that camgirls.com guy.

DAMNIT! :) beat me to it hehe great minds think alike?

fris 10-14-2009 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 16428278)
if you are serious about this you need to hit up cam_girls. He's got the entire webcam game all figured out!!

yep he knows everything

jay23 10-14-2009 12:54 PM

If you want the software then talk to us, jay @ objectcube.com how ever Traffic or cam Models is some thing I dont have

Jay

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 16427808)
How much money does it take to make a system similar to LiveJasmin/AWE?

What is needed? Servers? Bandwidth cost? Type Of Programmers? Type Of Designers? Customer Support? Marketing campaigns?

Should I have a bunch of webcam studios before I begin trying to create my own cam program?

Can 100K USD get me all the components of a mainstream webcam program? What do I need to do to get started?

Can someone advise?

Also; Are their any mainstream webcam companies for sale? Im interested-

Thanks in advance.

SeanLEE


thagreek 10-14-2009 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 16428261)
anyone else- who can assist me with this?

Hit me up on ICQ.

TheLegacy 10-14-2009 03:27 PM

As far as software go with 2much.net smartest and best around. Get a studio together an learn from your mistakes rather than copy. Once you get some experience then you'll be in a better position to know where you want to go rather than make a copy of another site. To survive in this industry you need originality

tical 10-14-2009 03:33 PM

i built camspot.com from the ground up (along with my team of programmers) for less than 100k

VladS 10-14-2009 03:59 PM

LiveJasmin no, but something decent, yes. There are, of course, many factors, but basically, if you have the traffic and the models, it gets a whole lot easier. Good luck in your venture.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-14-2009 04:01 PM

You don't have 100k anyway, so don't worry about it.

Barefootsies 10-14-2009 04:04 PM

I would ask someone with solid cam background, and experience.

Not the GFY sheep.

:2 cents:

SeanLEE 10-14-2009 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 16428907)
i built camspot.com from the ground up (along with my team of programmers) for less than 100k

Nice!!!



anyone else?


Any webcam programs for sale? 100K-200K range?

Fucksakes 10-14-2009 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 16429216)
Nice!!!

anyone else?

Any webcam programs for sale? 100K-200K range?


Im thinking of letting www.findacam.com go for 150k hit me up..


ok ok.. 5k



how about 2?

alias 10-14-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 16428281)
DAMNIT! :) beat me to it hehe great minds think alike?

For real, except your great mind comes with a perfect smile and hot body. :thumbsup

rowan 10-14-2009 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alias (Post 16428271)
Hit up that camgirls.com guy.

When I read this thread title I was sure he'd be the one who started it.

rowan 10-14-2009 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tical (Post 16428907)
i built camspot.com from the ground up (along with my team of programmers) for less than 100k

Yeah, but you must have had some residual traffic from the old style camspot :)

(My old school webcam archive sites are still up...)

cam_girls 10-14-2009 08:22 PM

LiveJasmin clone: http://demo.camscripts.com/index_ie.php

I'm open to a partnership with Camgirls.com if interested.

[email protected]

Agent 488 10-14-2009 08:25 PM

this is destiny in the making.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 16429566)
LiveJasmin clone: http://demo.camscripts.com/index_ie.php

I'm open to a partnership with Camgirls.com if interested.

[email protected]


Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-14-2009 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16429572)
this is destiny in the making.

Catastrophe in the making.

SeanLEE 10-19-2009 01:46 PM

bump:bump Any webcam companies for sale?

fryer 10-19-2009 02:16 PM

Good luck!

magpan 10-19-2009 02:19 PM

Good luck. :)

magpan 10-20-2009 01:15 AM

LOL - Not for sale, but a 100K could buy you a small percentage. :1orglaugh

will76 10-20-2009 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeanLEE (Post 16427808)
How much money does it take to make a system similar to LiveJasmin/AWE?

What is needed? Servers? Bandwidth cost? Type Of Programmers? Type Of Designers? Customer Support? Marketing campaigns?

Should I have a bunch of webcam studios before I begin trying to create my own cam program?

Can 100K USD get me all the components of a mainstream webcam program? What do I need to do to get started?

Can someone advise?

Also; Are their any mainstream webcam companies for sale? Im interested-

Thanks in advance.

SeanLEE

Question, if 100K did get you the clone you are looking for. Do you have a ton of your own traffic or a lot of extra money to buy traffic ?

cart before horse.....

magpan 10-20-2009 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 16446377)
Question, if 100K did get you the clone you are looking for. Do you have a ton of your own traffic or a lot of extra money to buy traffic ?

cart before horse.....

Exactly. And, no, not even a % is for sale with us (unfortunately). If you were to build something like this from 'scratch,' you'd definitely understand why. :) My only advice: Be careful of bullshit software on outdated technologies (there is only one company with a (relatively) up to date application and they have a long ways to go before it will be feature-rich and bug-free, though cam_girls thinks its the next best thing since sliced bread :1orglaugh), take the time to really understand what you're getting yourself into (it's not just 'throw up a program and the models and members will come', it simply doesn't work that way), and, really, take Will76's advice: The launch will certainly cost more than a build.

If you have 100K, research and build a business plan and take it to a financing company or private investors (partners) who are just as committed as you. 100K alone will leave you pretty tight. :)

magpan 10-20-2009 01:49 AM

One more post on this. This is the thread on cam_girls: http://www.gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/919358-camgirls-com-partner-4.html

We explored the script that he mentions, about 8 months ago. Not only is it completely limited for functionality, it is mostly featureless (and, not to mention, the staff at that company couldn't respond to 2 emails in 2 or so weeks, even when we were waving $ in their faces). We opted instead to build our own.

Again, just some thoughts from a start-up that just went through 11 months of R & D. :)

lagcam 10-20-2009 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InternetIsForPorn (Post 16428167)
$100k will be more than enough if you know what you're doing -- and where to do it.

Yes and No.

Yes, you can build a decent site that will make a decent income for $100k (if you have at least some clue as to what you are doing)

No, to replicate LiveJasmin.

You can clone a site's look (although really? why would you want to do that?) but you cannot clone a site like Jasmin's success. Success is earned, and whatever you think of them, their success has been built on initial innovation and continued investment and good business acumen over a period of many years.

Anybody can clone the front end of a cam site, but there is a LOT more important stuff you don't see, I have yet to see an off the shelf package that doesn't need serious modification to successfully manage a site.

l0lf4c3 10-20-2009 02:08 AM

happen to have any contact info? have one for sale but its adult.

cam_girls 10-20-2009 04:53 AM

Flashcoms.com script is a flash module designed to be integrated into an existing site.

But they're working on a full site version, 3 - 5 weeks.

magpan 10-20-2009 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cam_girls (Post 16446768)
Flashcoms.com script is a flash module designed to be integrated into an existing site.

But they're working on a full site version, 3 - 5 weeks.

Good luck with them. Honestly, I'm surprised that you'd go with a licensed script with a 350K domain. Not to beat you up but, if you have that for a domain, another 3-500K for a solid, unique script, that would become a formidable corporate asset maintaining a high resale value (if it were up to date and contained advanced features), would be logical. Why? Three reasons: (1) With a licensed script, you're effectively opening the door and welcoming your competitors to access your core technologies, essentially just putting a 'new cover on a book that will become old, rather quickly' (2) With a licensed script, you're effectively closing the door on furthering your own progress based on the fact that you will likely be held at the mercy of FlashComs for future development because they will not hand over their Flash/Flex script (they will give you everything else, allowing you to 'skin' the program in any manner that you wish, but not the core script items) and (3) your Balance Sheet (I explain this, below).

Consider 2-3 years out, someone approaches to buy you out of your program. The first deal item that they are going review and vet are your company's Financial Statements. When it is discovered that your script is licensed and holds no value on your Balance Sheet, it is very unlikely that the sale will go through (without you getting 'hosed' in the process).

Again, props on the domain. It is hot and it will certainly get you all sorts of Google hits as well as credibility with your users. But, without considerable business planning, a full, REAL view of what is going on in this industry, and a serious amount of effort for your launch and onwards ('ground' work, developing relationships with your key industry partners, etc...), you might as well sell that domain, get your cash back, and head to Vegas. You'd be playing with the same odds.

Just my opinion. I may be full of shit. Only time will tell. :thumbsup

PS: If FlashComs delivers a 'full site version' in 3-5 weeks, all the best. But, I know this company as well. I was in your shoes 8 months ago and experience tells me that it probably won't arrive on that mark.

BillyParadise 10-20-2009 05:47 AM

people ask questions but don't leave their own contact info...

Jack Sparrow 10-20-2009 05:55 AM

Sean doesnt even have 1k to spend, why bother answering..

cam_girls 10-20-2009 06:20 AM

It's a bit like Playboy using a VBulletin script, if the script rocks why not?

Good points none the less.


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