So um yeah, stop letting surfers download your members area?
 

I dont understand why all paysites dont force surfer to stream or leave. If they cant stream your shit oh well. Better than losing it all over the net.

If the basis of your site is interactivity with the model, then you have nothing to worry about.... let the content get out... it's not the the reason people are joining anyways...

The only ones complaining are the ones where the content is the only reason people are joining. Once that's out there... it effectively kills the site.

I shall await the normal folks in such topics.
There should find this by morning.

Interesting question/topic, would like to see what sort of answers you get for it.

Hmm... People don't understand how many loyal paysite members are hardcore porn collectors. They have HUGE, sorted, collections of downloaded content of their favorite models. Going to stream only would hurt so many paysites that have dedicated members. Just ask FTV, Nubiles , ATK etc..

Yes I agree with what ahoy just said. They collect certain models too and will join any site that a girl is on if they like her enough.

I agree that the customer wants to keep what they like. I also think stream only is non competitive with comparable content that is downloadable. Especially if the stream gets ripped, then the torrent is offering the customer 2x better value...free & downloadable.

Uh why not if he wants to collect a certain models shit have him store it in an online folder or some other medium YOU control access too? If he is only wanting to watch it on on his computer all he has to do is open folder with password and be watching his flick again. The ones who can download massive shit in a day have high speed connections that are ALWAYS connected so streaming high quality would be about the same as downloading as far as time goes.

If that isnt good enough for em them screw your true fans will watch your shit whether or not they can download it. Long as they can skip through the clip to the good parts they dont give a shit. Hell half of them think download and streamin are the same thing. Only thing they should be allowed to save/share (cus you do realize if they are a fan of a particular model thats what theyll do) is pictures.

Yea I agree. Fuck the few paying customers we have left. Why should they get anything for their money? They are stupid ones who still are willing to pay for porn. Fuck those idiots. :error

Looks good

You can always provide them with a massively watermarked low res copy for their collections - it will be good enough to jerk off later, but not good enough for tubes/torrents etc.

Brilliant idea.

Everyone knows it is totally impossible to rip a stream.

why to offer less because few thiefs? its not that big problem to catch them with good idea and good programmer ... just use brain to find a way and do not fuck with your loyal members :2 cents:

Streams could be either progressive DRM protected and tied down to your server's MAC address, or encrypted and RMPT - those are really hard to break except for screen recording which 98% of the file sharing crowd would not bother with.

You can also fly their IPs and logins above the video to additionally scare them from sharing your videos, and on top of it add an invisible watermark that cannot be removed with whatever info you want (IP, login, date etc) - and you're close to keeping 100% of your stuff inside of your member area.

Even if content protection technologies were less effective, you're still strongly advised to use them - even 50% less of file sharing is a small victory. But technologies available today are close to being 100% effective, not to use them is simply foolish.

Few thieves lol. Open your eyes, we're about to face times where thieves of various specializations will start shaping next to 100% of the adult industry's landscape.

99% of the people who download and share anything online dont know about shit like that but if they visit site A advertising unlimited downloads and then visit a tube where you can upload and share said video they will think its ok to do because you let them download it. So you let millions of people enjoy your content for 1 $39 dollar sale. Do a poll of surfers who even know the difference between downloading and streaming video and you will be suprised that less than 10% even understand or care what your talking about.

VOD sites do ok with streaming, yeah some of them allow surfer to download full dvd but why havent hotmovies and aebn went out of business yet,since streaming movies are sooo shitty for surfer? If you allow surfer to download anything it should be individual clips and they should pay for these clips individually like an clips store. Then you will see who your real collectors are.

Stop worry about pissing off the consumer, you cant piss them off to bad they will be back tomorrow there is only one internet, and tey will still want to jackoff, and if you are not allowing downloads of member materials at least you know it isnt average surfers stealing your shit, but the way things are now even a novice can cripple your business with a few clicks of the mouse with an similar way that you attach emails, and THE SURFERS think its ok because that is obviously YOUR watermarks and its on a tube. Even the music industry and tv is getting its act together (ie itunes store, hulu). Make the fucker pay for your shit. If its worth paying for.

well said

oh man its not that bad as you say ... imho 95% of members are legit people who do not share the content, and only few people who are sharing the material with others cause they are getting other material as rewards. anyway you have to check your security as i see ferrocash password dumps all around ... and its not cause hundreds of people are sharing their account, but cause you have hole somewhere ...

That's pretty much the same dumb ass mentality that put this industry in the position it is in now....And I'm referring to your sarcasm.

yup. :thumbsup

I think you should stream high and let download at a lower quality. Brand the downloadable content a little more aggressively...like a beginning brand, ending brand, and a small url brand throughout the whole thing.

I was referring to webmasters, not members. 5% of members who steal sounds about right - they wouldn't do much harm if there's only a small selection of sites to upload to/ share etc. We were able to coexist with the lesser scale file sharing for years and it didn't do much harm to the industry as a whole. But now they have an endless selection of sites where they can share, and the sharing chains are getting longer and more sophisticated. At this point it's starting to hurt badly.

And thanks for the heads up, I'll have our tech guys to scan our servers for security holes.

Why small url? Make it BIG! It should be clearly readable even at a thumbnail (36pt font would do that for a 640x480 video). Grab as much branding as you can before you take your clip down from a tube or whatever else thieving site.

It took me just under TWO MINUTES to Google for some software that would
convert a streaming youtube style Flash video to a plain mpeg, install the software,
and start the conversion. Just two minutes and I could grab all the streams I wanted.
The guys who rip sites, the ones who are responsible for 95% of stolen content, installed
that software years ago. Sure, you might stop the one dork from giving one video to
his buddy (word of mouth advertising), but while you're busy trying to stop that the
hardcore ripper just posted 250 of your videos.

There is a way to stop it, to put an end to the whole ripping and sharing of content, but
pretending that the rippers are too stupid to use Google isn't the way.

Rather than telling people how they are wrong, why don't you show us all the right way?

i think downloads should be forced max if you dont love $$$ :D

for everything else check my sig and best FEEDS for your site, lets stream make you $$$

i think this is a good idea too.. or set up some 'download by request' thingy for members that would allow you to keep track of where content is going? dont' know much about it tho

we do!! :)) our new site http://hometeenvids.com allows to download only very bad 320x videos with BIG logo.

Medium and High quality is available only for streaming.

well i dont believe you, i will start a paysite with no downloads...after i finish my current project :pimp

Very good point.

Lol thats incredibly easy to stop.

Is this another drive by post of yours on this subject? You are WRONG it can be stopped. You always make these posts, then don't reply to the replies you get.