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EscortBiz 11-15-2009 03:33 PM

Seeking PPC Expert
 
If you have extensive experience using google etc PPC and have solid industry references please contact me, this is for an ongoing position

amacontent 11-15-2009 07:17 PM

Sunday night football halftime bump.

skrog 11-15-2009 08:47 PM

bump for you. :thumbsup

vod 11-15-2009 09:06 PM

I would suggest to setup and use google analytics and see what keywords convert sales and stop the keywords that are not creating sales... and promote more of the converting keywords and increase your ROI

hit me up if you need help ;-)

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-15-2009 09:16 PM

Like SEO, I think you'll find that anyone who is any good at PPC is making their own money. Either way, just a suggestion, but I think you'd have better luck asking on a mainstream forum...

Just a suggestion for you, but if you're working with any CPA networks, talk to your affiliate manager and mention that you're looking for an experienced PPC guy who has proven performance to work with you. They might just be able to hook you up with someone. Some of those mainstream Ams are actually pretty damn helpful...

Huffer 11-16-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16554329)
Like SEO, I think you'll find that anyone who is any good at PPC is making their own money. Either way, just a suggestion, but I think you'd have better luck asking on a mainstream forum...

Agreed. I know a few "mainstream" PPC agency's that take adult on the side. However to find a freelance guy that is as good as you need odds are he/she is making his own money or not as good as he/she may seem.

The actual PPC biz is fairly straight forwards but requires a lot of maintenance and management to keep it finely tuned. That said it's fairly easy to optimize on your own if you have the time.

Good Luck!

frankie_gunn 11-16-2009 01:54 AM

You could watch the Google AdWords Tutorial.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-16-2009 02:36 AM

I really think PPC management is best handled by yourself with a little guidance. There's nothing stopping someone, even with good references, from testing the waters with your money, finding something that works without assuming any of the risk, then running in direct competition to your own promotion. hell, that's exactly what I'd do.

ztik 11-16-2009 04:16 AM

You won't find an expert looking for work

EscortBiz 11-16-2009 06:49 AM

I mean you guys must be nuts, like real stupid or people who never did shit in your life.

What the fuck is this if someone is good at it he will have his own stuff? This whole business is full of experts at different levels who are only good at working for others yet for themselves they cant do anything. Tons of shooters, programmers etc that are great at what they do but they can only do it for others rather than start their own site or network.

Why I am even explaining this to a bunch of guys living in mommies basement I don't know, but grow the fuck up.

Now again if you are somebody who can manage lots of keywords and tweak based on certain results ill outline for you hit me up.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-16-2009 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16555122)
Tons of shooters, programmers etc that are great at what they do but they can only do it for others rather than start their own site or network.

Don't even try to compare a PPC expert to a content shooter or a programmer. Shooters and programmers work for other people because their skill in itself doesn't make the money itself. People working with PPC successfully are on that marketing end, their skill lies in making money turn into more money. What the fuck does a solid PPC expert want your measily commission for?

You might find some who can convicne you they are an "expert", but no "expert" is actually gonna take over handling someone else's campaigns when that time can be spend managing their own. Go goole "PPC consultation" and see who is advertising there via paid search, your chances are as good there as anywhere you fucking clown....

But hey, don't listen to me, I'm just a troll living in my mother's basement. You're the pro who seems to know everything about PPC yet needs to hire a PPC expert....

beemk 11-16-2009 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16556472)
Don't even try to compare a PPC expert to a content shooter or a programmer. Shooters and programmers work for other people because their skill in itself doesn't make the money itself. People working with PPC successfully are on that marketing end, their skill lies in making money turn into more money. What the fuck does a solid PPC expert want your measily commission for?

You might find some who can convicne you they are an "expert", but no "expert" is actually gonna take over handling someone else's campaigns when that time can be spend managing their own. Go goole "PPC consultation" and see who is advertising there via paid search, your chances are as good there as anywhere you fucking clown....

But hey, don't listen to me, I'm just a troll living in my mother's basement. You're the pro who seems to know everything about PPC yet needs to hire a PPC expert....

stop making so much sense. know it all people dont like to hear that.

amacontent 11-16-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16556472)
But hey, don't listen to me, I'm just a troll living in my mother's basement. You're the pro who seems to know everything about PPC yet needs to hire a PPC expert....

Just because someone knows alot about something.. doesnt mean he/she doesnt wanna hire someone to do it. Its called delegating authority. Im sure the guy who owns Hershey surely knows how to make a candy bar, doesnt mean he sits in the factory and makes it himself.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-16-2009 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16557093)
Just because someone knows alot about something.. doesnt mean he/she doesnt wanna hire someone to do it. Its called delegating authority. Im sure the guy who owns Hershey surely knows how to make a candy bar, doesnt mean he sits in the factory and makes it himself.

Do you think Cadbury would go do all Hershey's work for a small portion of what they would normally make making their own delicious candy bars? No, Hershey hires bums and teaches them how to make the chocolate bars...

marketsmart 11-16-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16557134)
Do you think Cadbury would go do all Hershey's work for a small portion of what they would normally make making their own delicious candy bars? No, Hershey hires bums and teaches them how to make the chocolate bars...

please stop trying to make sense... i can tell you 99% of the people here that think they know ppc, dont...

lol at people that think you can just hire a ppc guy off the street..

i agree with the jew cat... the top ppc guys dont sell their services...

i consider myself an amateur ppc guy and you couldnt hire me for any less that $1000 a day.. :2 cents:

EscortBiz 11-16-2009 07:17 PM

seriously this thread confirms that this place has turned to total shit, I been doing this a long time I had a guy do PPC for me 2 years ago solid as can be he got married and turned to junk, I got a few ICQ's too one guy is doing it full time for a company here and is looking for change. Financial consultants who make people millions but they themselves just cant do much for themselves, this is in every industry.

Again im talking to broke ass babies here and its pathetic.

So guys keep on ICQ'ing me, those who are real make serious money with me year after year, the rest here can continue crying and wanking off to tubes.

EscortBiz 11-16-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amacontent (Post 16557093)
Just because someone knows alot about something.. doesnt mean he/she doesnt wanna hire someone to do it. Its called delegating authority. Im sure the guy who owns Hershey surely knows how to make a candy bar, doesnt mean he sits in the factory and makes it himself.

dont even bother answering these dreamers, wish some of the guys that would hang out here a year + ago would come back

marketsmart 11-16-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16557290)
seriously this thread confirms that this place has turned to total shit, I been doing this a long time I had a guy do PPC for me 2 years ago solid as can be he got married and turned to junk, I got a few ICQ's too one guy is doing it full time for a company here and is looking for change. Financial consultants who make people millions but they themselves just cant do much for themselves, this is in every industry.

Again im talking to broke ass babies here and its pathetic.

So guys keep on ICQ'ing me, those who are real make serious money with me year after year, the rest here can continue crying and wanking off to tubes.

I think what you are missing here is that there are a lot of people that probably know ppc, but the guys that are are experts at ppc and making a lot of money doing ppc arent really willing to share unless its really worth their while..

when your spending $10,000 plus a month on ppc, the difference between paying 25 cents a click versus 50 cents a click makes a huge difference.

the same goes for finding those keywords that are $2.00 a click but generate $4.00 a click.

the ppc game has become so competitive that finding that golden keyword or keywords could translate into 5 figures of profit, but could be killed profitability wise overnight when multiple competitors jump on the bandwagon has led most ppc experts to keep their knowledge a lot closer to the cuff these days... :2 cents:

jigg 11-16-2009 07:31 PM

well, why are there capable companies who manage other people's PPC campaigns?
why isn't someone flying their own banners and affiliate programs but sell their ad space.

Plenty of people who know their shit make more money managing someone else's campaigns.

Some pluses that come to mind:
you get % of client's ad spend right off the top. And probably % of sales generated
and get to play with a much bigger budget than your own
and of course (hopefully) access to much better tracking and the ability to see what sells and what doesn't down to the keyword, if the advertiser wants a ROI-centric campaign.

In affiliate marketing you don't always get to deep track and mostly shoot blanks to see what sticks. Not to mention your margins are much lower as a reseller than a product owner.

Of course if someone knew what they were doing with PPC AND had the budget power AND had special relationships with merchants which allowed them to get above the default pay rate, yes probably would never toy with other people's campaigns. But not everyone does that

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-16-2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EscortBiz (Post 16557290)
seriously this thread confirms that this place has turned to total shit, I been doing this a long time I had a guy do PPC for me 2 years ago solid as can be he got married and turned to junk, I got a few ICQ's too one guy is doing it full time for a company here and is looking for change. Financial consultants who make people millions but they themselves just cant do much for themselves, this is in every industry.

Again im talking to broke ass babies here and its pathetic.

So guys keep on ICQ'ing me, those who are real make serious money with me year after year, the rest here can continue crying and wanking off to tubes.

I'll send you a bill for the publicity work later...

marketsmart 11-16-2009 07:49 PM

i'll throw you a bone here...

"san diego girls" a keyword i would go after for escorts based on the ppc and the competition.

running it and looking at stats tied to that keyword would tell you if its gold or not..

and thats just an obvious keyword.. the real money and magic is finding the keywords that arent that obvious...


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