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cykoe6 11-16-2009 08:50 AM

Obama Shows Some Common Sense
 
In an all too rare display of common sense, the Obama administration appears to be blocking the release of more detainee "abuse" photos. The release of these photos would serve no other purpose than to provide endless propaganda opportunities for the Jihadists and the anti-American left as they are splashed on the cover of the NYT, Newsweek and The Guardian while being run in endless loops on Al Jazeera (which is why I am sure many here would support their release).

I am usually horrified by the Obama administration's staggering incompetence but this seems to demonstrate a rare burst of good judgment. :thumbsup


Quote:

Secretary of Defense Robert Gates Friday night filed a notice with the Supreme Court that will likely block the release of photos depicting the alleged abuse of detainees in Iraq and Afghanistan by their U.S. captors.

Gates, taking advantage of an amendment to the military appropriations bill signed by President Obama last month that gives him the authority to exempt the photos from the Freedom of Information Act, called on the Supreme Court to dismiss without further consideration a lower court?s ruling that the photos must be released to the American Civil Liberties Union.

In a statement, the ACLU, which plans to file a responsive brief, argues that Gates? filing ?fails to provide the individualized assessment that the amendment's language requires and also fails to provide any basis for the claim that disclosure of the photos would harm national security.?

Obama, who?d initially cleared the photos? release in response to court rulings, later reversed himself, saying that the pictures would "further inflame anti-American opinion" and "put our troops in greater danger."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1109/29525.html

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 09:15 AM

Obama is in over his head.

He's been in office for almost a year now and what has he done? Other than drop the HIV/AIDS travel ban into the USA and win the Nobel Prize for doing nothing, he hasn't done much of anything other than talk a bunch of jive on TV.

Yngwie 11-16-2009 10:08 AM

so they fear that Jihadists and the anti-American left would do some shit, but I guess they don't realize that putting news out like this is just as good as publishing the pics. It's basically like saying "We have the pics, but since we don't want to offend you we won't show them. Of course, if you weren't around we would plaster them all over the place.We just want to look good"

Tom_PM 11-16-2009 10:13 AM

"In over his head", lmao.

That should be the Bush memoir.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16555486)
Obama is in over his head.

He's been in office for almost a year now and what has he done? Other than drop the HIV/AIDS travel ban into the USA and win the Nobel Prize for doing nothing, he hasn't done much of anything other than talk a bunch of jive on TV.

Yeah, McCain would have fixed everything in his first year, no problem!

baddog 11-16-2009 10:15 AM

I could have sworn Obama already stated this a few months ago.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16555547)
I could have sworn Obama already stated this a few months ago.

Yeah, he did... it's not new news.

cykoe6 11-16-2009 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16555547)
I could have sworn Obama already stated this a few months ago.

Yea he did........ but this seems to be one of those rare times when it appears he is actually keeping his word. That is certainly news. :winkwink:

Tom_PM 11-16-2009 12:19 PM

Yeah, one of those rare times when someone actually has a brain in the white house.

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16555535)
Yeah, McCain would have fixed everything in his first year, no problem!

I'm not saying that. Anyone who followed Bush was going to have their hands full. I'm saying Obama has done nothing since he's been here. It's almost been a year now. He is not a leader. He has never led anything. He's in over his head.

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16555857)
Yeah, one of those rare times when someone actually has a brain in the white house.

You are fooled by his smooth talk, as most Americans were. So caught up in the hype of "Obama" that they overlooked the fact that he had zero experience that would allow him to serve in the highest office.

What has he done?

Joshua G 11-16-2009 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16557117)
I'm not saying that. Anyone who followed Bush was going to have their hands full. I'm saying Obama has done nothing since he's been here. It's almost been a year now. He is not a leader. He has never led anything. He's in over his head.

His problem is that he does not control his party. This is very unusual in american politics.

Since he came to washington with no experience, & his sponsor (teddy) is dead, its pelosi & reid that run the government, & it is a disaster.

His lack of asserting himself as the party leader does speak to a lack of balls that is required to succeed as president. So far he is showing no backbone, even for things his base wants, like public options & gay orgies in foxholes.

So flaming liberals & special interests are running the boat, so it keeps on sinking...

Joshua G 11-16-2009 06:32 PM

i think the lack of balls is derived from being a mommas boy...sucks when your dad isnt there to raise you.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16557117)
I'm not saying that. Anyone who followed Bush was going to have their hands full. I'm saying Obama has done nothing since he's been here. It's almost been a year now. He is not a leader. He has never led anything. He's in over his head.

Please answer these questions, since Obama is so terrible....

Who would have been able to have accomplished more in this amount of time, and why?

Who would have literally shut out ALL lobbyists from Washington in less than a year?

Who would have been able to totally reform healthcare, against all of the special interests, in this short amount of time?

Who would have united the right and left better, in this amount of time, and how?

Like it or not, this country is divided in a big way, and in no small part due to the incompetence of the last administration. They virtually dismantled the middle class.

Obama was elected to reform healthcare, and to try to fix our economy (among many other things).

Could any of the Republitards have worked with Obama since he was elected? Of course, but they would rather see our country fail, than to see a Democrat accomplish something. Look back at the Clinton days for more examples.

It is time to wake up in this country, and intelligently weigh out who is really fighting for the common citizen, and who is fighting for the large corporations, against the interest of the regular folk.

This includes some Democrat and Independents as well. It is on both sides of the isle, but the Republitards really seem to relish in the mud slinging divisiveness.

Until this election I almost always voted Independent by the way, but not after watching what happened during the 8 nightmare years known as Bush Cheney.

If Obama started a clean drinking water campaign in America, the Right would fight for dirty water, because "that's the REAL America".

What a joke the GOP has become...

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 16557135)
His problem is that he does not control his party. This is very unusual in american politics.

Since he came to washington with no experience, & his sponsor (teddy) is dead, its pelosi & reid that run the government, & it is a disaster.

His lack of asserting himself as the party leader does speak to a lack of balls that is required to succeed as president. So far he is showing no backbone, even for things his base wants, like public options & gay orgies in foxholes.

So flaming liberals & special interests are running the boat, so it keeps on sinking...

You are spot on with that post. Well said.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 16557159)
i think the lack of balls is derived from being a mommas boy...sucks when your dad isnt there to raise you.

Yeah, really sucks... he's only rich, intelligent, and THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

What a horribly sad thing for him... must not have any balls I guess. So sad.

dyna mo 11-16-2009 06:45 PM

you anti-obama loyalists are worse than the obama loyalists.

fyi.

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16557168)
Please answer these questions, since Obama is so terrible....

Obama spoke a MEAN game until he took office. He still talks a mean game. He has no follow through, and as it was stated above, no back bone. He can't get things done because he is not a leader. He is not in control.

I voted for him. I fell for his promises, hook, line and sinker, as did everyone else. Unfortunately, he is just full of air and unable to deliver anything he promised. I am very disappointed with this, as are many Americans.

Who would be better? Yes, McCain would be better . As much as I hate to say it, he's a leader and would be getting shit done. However, Ron Paul is who should be in there. He's a kook sometimes, but he saw this economic mess coming in 2003! Everyone called him a nut back then, including me. Look at us now. He has been on point about EVERYTHING.

Obama will not get a 2nd term. Not unless we are attacked again and he displays some sense of heroism to the American people, right before elections, which he may do. He is a smooth talking, corrupt, Chicago politician. Unless he fools the people one more time, right before election day, he can kiss that 2nd term good-bye. If this should be the case an the American people fall for it again, then that is what they deserve, and I hope they enjoy the soup lines, higher taxes and hyper-inflation.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16557119)
You are fooled by his smooth talk, as most Americans were. So caught up in the hype of "Obama" that they overlooked the fact that he had zero experience that would allow him to serve in the highest office.

What has he done?

Same question for Bush...

You were fooled by his incoherent dumbass talk, as most Americans were. So caught up in the hype of "Bush" that they overlooked the fact that he had zero experience that would allow him to serve in the highest office.

What has he done?

BFT3K 11-16-2009 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16557196)
Bush will not get a 2nd term. Not unless we are attacked again and he displays some sense of heroism to the American people, right before elections, which he may do. He is a smooth talking, illiterate hick son of a rich powerful man. Unless he fools the people one more time, right before election day, he can kiss that 2nd term good-bye. If this should be the case and the American people fall for it again, then that is what they deserve, and I hope they enjoy the soup lines, higher taxes and hyper-inflation.

Exactly what has already happened. Spot-on!

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 16557189)
you anti-obama loyalists are worse than the obama loyalists.

fyi.

Hey, I voted for him.

If he would DO SOMETHING HE PROMISED before he was President, he would be a rock star. Hell, do ANYTHING! I've never been so disappointed with a US leader in all my life. Not in the sense of making the wrong decisions, but because he is making none at all.

"Give him time" people say. He's been there for almost a year already. All he's done is shown his 1/2 black face on TV every night and day. Well, he did get a dog and win the Nobel Peace Prize, for doing nothing. I guess that counts for something.

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16557209)
Exactly what has already happened. Spot-on!

That was my point. That is the ONLY way he will get a 2nd term. It's not going to be because he's been an outstanding President.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16557200)
Same question for Bush...

You were fooled by his incoherent dumbass talk, as most Americans were. So caught up in the hype of "Bush" that they overlooked the fact that he had zero experience that would allow him to serve in the highest office.

What has he done?

Bush is an idiot. Flat out, the worst President this country has ever had. I can't even watch him give a speech without cringing. He is a war criminal and should have been impeached. I hope he dies a miserable death from colon cancer.

The entire system is a joke. All the brilliant people in that great country and these monkeys are the best we can do? Sad.

baddog 11-16-2009 06:55 PM

He put up a swing set for the kids. Having done that myself I must admit it is quite the accomplishment on the domestic level.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 06:57 PM

To believe Obama was going to correct the cesspool that is Washington DC, single handedly, in under a year, and in a way that you would like to see happen in your wish-dreams, is akin to believing in the Easter Bunny.

Anyone who becomes president, and is truly interested in helping this country, will quickly learn the club is already corrupt, and unless you play the game, you will not get anything done, ever.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16557224)
That was my point. That is the ONLY way he will get a 2nd term. It's not going to be because he's been an outstanding President.

Bush is an idiot. Flat out, the worst President this country has ever had. I can't even watch him give a speech without cringing. He is a war criminal and should have been impeached. I hope he dies a miserable death from colon cancer.

The entire system is a joke. All the brilliant people in that great country and these monkeys are the best we can do? Sad.

I actually agree with you on most points, except the Obama bashing. I really think he means well, and is getting the short end of the stick, from BOTH sides of the isle (and even from the middle with dick-head Lierberdouche).

The 2 party system is corrupt, but it is the only game in town, so play on!

Joshua G 11-16-2009 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 16557186)
Yeah, really sucks... he's only rich, intelligent, and THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES!

What a horribly sad thing for him... must not have any balls I guess. So sad.

he was never rich until his wifey got a $200K raise at her fake job at the hospital when he became US Senator. Perks like huge raises for doing nothing of substance come when you become Senator.

He also got into Columbia...how? Affirmative action baybee. He himself said he didnt work hard until college. It helps your success a lot when you dont have to work as hard as the white man to get the ivy league treatment.

But it also cuts your balls off. When success is handed to you on a silver platter because your black & intelligent, its easy to succeed. Especially when every political opponent you've ever faced in your life self destructs.

Obama would have had his clock cleaned by Reagan...

tiger 11-16-2009 07:45 PM

It's hilarious to me that people think all of these problems should be solved in one year. This is one huge clusterfuck of a mess.

And no I'm not happy with the way things are going and Obama isn't doing anywhere near enough but I don't really see how you can judge him until at least close to the end of the first term.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshgirls (Post 16557351)
he was never rich until his wifey got a $200K raise at her fake job at the hospital when he became US Senator. Perks like huge raises for doing nothing of substance come when you become Senator.

He also got into Columbia...how? Affirmative action baybee. He himself said he didnt work hard until college. It helps your success a lot when you dont have to work as hard as the white man to get the ivy league treatment.

But it also cuts your balls off. When success is handed to you on a silver platter because your black & intelligent, its easy to succeed. Especially when every political opponent you've ever faced in your life self destructs.

Obama would have had his clock cleaned by Reagan...

Are you talking about THIS Ronald Reagan?

The president with the big balls, standing up to Wall Street Ronald Reagan?



https://youtube.com/watch?v=QTcL6Xc_eMM

Is THAT the Ronald Reagan you Republitards worship?

fatfoo 11-16-2009 08:11 PM

Did Obama release the secret alien experiments and Area 51 photos? I think that information is still classified.

fatfoo 11-16-2009 08:12 PM

Oh...

http://www.lasvegastourism.com/gifs/alien3.gif

Les Grossman 11-16-2009 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tiger (Post 16557375)
It's hilarious to me that people think all of these problems should be solved in one year. This is one huge clusterfuck of a mess.

And no I'm not happy with the way things are going and Obama isn't doing anywhere near enough but I don't really see how you can judge him until at least close to the end of the first term.

Of course not in a year. But get started for fucks sake. :2 cents:

He PROMISED to kick ass and take names. He PROMISED it was not going to be the same old, same old. He PROMISED a ton of shit, none of which he will be able to make good on. If he had kept his mouth shut, he would not have so many haters. However, he also wouldn't be president. He can talk the talk, but he can't walk the walk.

I believe he is a dreamer. Big plans, lots of promises and great hopes, but now he has a taste of the real world in the big leagues, he has found out his hops and dreams are dashed.

BFT3K 11-16-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16557532)
Of course not in a year. But get started for fucks sake. :2 cents:

He PROMISED to kick ass and take names. He PROMISED it was not going to be the same old, same old. He PROMISED a ton of shit, none of which he will be able to make good on. If he had kept his mouth shut, he would not have so many haters. However, he also wouldn't be president. He can talk the talk, but he can't walk the walk.

I believe he is a dreamer. Big plans, lots of promises and great hopes, but now he has a taste of the real world in the big leagues, he has found out his hopes and dreams are dashed.

Translation: Washington is so fucking corrupt, unless you are the biggest of the assholes on the hill, you will face a very uphill battle.

Again - I do not blame Obama for attempting to create a better America - I blame those who are so upset by this concept that they will fight tooth and nail to maintain the unsustainable and pathetic status quo, rather than help him out in any way.

jalami 11-16-2009 08:43 PM

It's funny how 'Bush sucked worse' is a valid defense for how much Obama sucks.

TheDoc 11-16-2009 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Les Grossman (Post 16555486)
Obama is in over his head.

He's been in office for almost a year now and what has he done? Other than drop the HIV/AIDS travel ban into the USA and win the Nobel Prize for doing nothing, he hasn't done much of anything other than talk a bunch of jive on TV.


Unemployment rates for educated people has dropped.

Banned lobbyists form working with an agency they lobbied for and some other rules with gifts.

The entire economy didn't crash which was guaranteed to happen within the first year in office by most of the right.

He actually listened to our Military commanders about Iraq and it's working...people are smart enough to understand aid and war.

Changed the restrictions on stem cell research..

He setup fuel eco standards and some fuel standards for Cali to choose what they want.

Afgan, force has grown, new approach to the war is working.

Gave Americans the rights to visit family and send money to Cuba.



I'm bored...


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