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brassmonkey 11-19-2009 06:46 AM

Angry father shoots 15-year-old son dead over allegations
 
swift acting

that he may have molested a 3-year-old girl
HIGHLAND PARK, Mich. (AP) -- A 37-year-old father irate over hearing his 15-year-old son had sexual contact with a 3-year-old girl made the teen strip at gunpoint, marched him to a vacant lot and shot him to death despite pleas from the boy and his mother, a relative said.

Michigan authorities filed a first-degree murder charge Wednesday against Jamar Pinkney Sr. in the shooting death Monday of Jamar Pinkney Jr. in the Detroit enclave of Highland Park.

Defense attorney Corbett O'Meara said prosecutors should consider evidence of the father's state of mind over the sex abuse report.

"If something were to happen that would cause a reasonable person to lose control of himself, that is something the prosecution would have to take into account," O'Meara said outside Highland Park District Court.

Tensions were high in the courtroom Wednesday as the handcuffed suspect was led into the room for the arraignment, which lasted less than a minute.

"No, No, No," one female relative cried before a police officer escorted her out.

Judge Brigette Officer entered a not guilty plea for Pinkney, who's also charged with assault, and ordered him jailed without bond until a preliminary examination Dec. 1.

"This is something that's hard to deal with for all the parties concerned, including the police," police Chief Ted Caldwell said afterward. "Highland Park is a small city. These are people who have been members of the community for years."

Caldwell said the sexual misconduct allegation that led to the confrontation wasn't part of the police investigation.

The shooting happened Monday night in a vacant lot in the once-prosperous city of 16,000, where decay, abandonment, fires and demolition have eaten away at many of the sprawling homes. Highland Park recently exited years of state financial oversight.

"This is something that's hard to deal with for all the parties concerned, including the police," police Chief Ted Caldwell said afterward. "Highland Park is a small city. These are people who have been members of the community for years."

Caldwell said the sexual misconduct allegation that led to the confrontation wasn't part of the police investigation.

The shooting happened Monday night in a vacant lot in the once-prosperous city of 16,000, where decay, abandonment, fires and demolition have eaten away at many of the sprawling homes. Highland Park recently exited years of state financial oversight

BlackCrayon 11-19-2009 06:53 AM

pretty shitty article.

kmanrox 11-19-2009 07:14 AM

dad's gonna be pissssed if he finds out his kid didnt really do anything to the 3yo and he's lined up for the chair or life in prison lolz

The Duck 11-19-2009 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16566572)
dad's gonna be pissssed if he finds out his kid didnt really do anything to the 3yo and he's lined up for the chair or life in prison lolz

lols indeed

cykoe6 11-19-2009 07:32 AM

Very sad story.

PR_Sebas 11-19-2009 07:35 AM

Sad , just really sad

Altwebdesign 11-19-2009 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16566572)
dad's gonna be pissssed if he finds out his kid didnt really do anything to the 3yo and he's lined up for the chair or life in prison lolz


just what i was thinking!

NikKay 11-19-2009 08:15 AM

It's tragic all the way around.

cherrylula 11-19-2009 08:20 AM

he did it because the teen would probably say his dad raped him as kid and thats where he learned it :2 cents:

John-ACWM 11-19-2009 08:22 AM

He is a deranged father.And the allegations may not be true...what a bummer.

Hank_Heartland 11-19-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by John-ACWM (Post 16566702)
He is a deranged father.And the allegations may not be true...what a bummer.

I think he may have found out if it was true before he killed him...don't you:error

brassmonkey 11-19-2009 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 16566696)
he did it because the teen would probably say his dad raped him as kid and thats where he learned it :2 cents:

damn thats a twist

rowan 11-19-2009 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 16566696)
he did it because the teen would probably say his dad raped him as kid and thats where he learned it :2 cents:

Yeah well, it does say he forced him to strip at gunpoint..... :helpme

Deej 11-19-2009 09:13 AM

That guy is keepin it real...

Iron Fist 11-19-2009 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16566854)
That guy is keepin it real...

No kidding...

CyberHustler 11-19-2009 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16566854)
That guy is keepin it real...

Word up, yo!

escorpio 11-19-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Deej (Post 16566854)
That guy is keepin it real...

Tru dat! U ain't want no beef wit Jamar Pinkney Sr.

tranza 11-19-2009 09:30 AM

Damn it that is terribel!

punker barbie 11-19-2009 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by kmanrox (Post 16566572)
dad's gonna be pissssed if he finds out his kid didnt really do anything to the 3yo and he's lined up for the chair or life in prison lolz

a 3 year old wouldnt make up that type of stuff

Deej 11-19-2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by punker barbie (Post 16566969)
a 3 year old wouldnt make up that type of stuff

Im not saying thats the case, but many 3 year olds have been tricked into saying such things...

martinsc 11-19-2009 09:51 AM

:Oh crap

sortie 11-19-2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 16566696)
he did it because the teen would probably say his dad raped him as kid and thats where he learned it :2 cents:

:2 cents::2 cents:

Scott McD 11-19-2009 09:59 AM

Crazy stuff!!

Wonder if the allegation was true to begin with...

Fat Panda 11-19-2009 10:00 AM

It's the guns fault, blame it on the gun!

Deej 11-19-2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 16567024)
It's the guns fault, blame it on the gun!

Its the bullet, BLAME THE BULLET!

the gun is just a mechanism, same as a finger... that muh fuckin Lead did it!

BLAME THE LEAD!!!

Libertine 11-19-2009 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by punker barbie (Post 16566969)
a 3 year old wouldnt make up that type of stuff

Idiot :2 cents:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial

kmanrox 11-19-2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by punker barbie (Post 16566969)
a 3 year old wouldnt make up that type of stuff

barbie i love you like a fat webmaster loves high PPS, but I think without the details it's hard to know... i just recall an episode of First 48 the reality series of homocide detectives and some guy killed someone who he though raped his sister.... he got caught for 1st degree murder then found out his sister was raped by someone else.... ouch

GatorB 11-19-2009 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Hank_Heartland (Post 16566792)
I think he may have found out if it was true before he killed him...don't you:error

How? Did the 3 year old tell him? Only the police would have an inkling if it were true because they could actually INVESTIGATE and gather EVIDENCE. The police said they weren't even investigating it.

This guy is an asshole. While I would be disgusted if my son had molesed a 3 year old, if I heard allegations, as his father I would

A) Believe my son if he said he didn't do it

B) wait for ALL the evidence to come in.

Maybe the dad did it and the son found out and was going to tell.

GatorB 11-19-2009 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SAC (Post 16567024)
It's the guns fault, blame it on the gun!

If he didn't have access to a gun he couldn't have kill his son like a coward.

2012 11-19-2009 11:01 AM

lovely ...

cwd 11-19-2009 11:03 AM

that is a horrible story. What happend to innocent until proven guilty?

Guess the dad is going to find out a little more about molestation now that he's in jail...

LexiLexxx 11-19-2009 11:07 AM

Sad deal all around, BUT....3 yr old kids don't lie. I don't care how you try to twist and turn it. The Dad should have never taken matters into his own hands.

GatorB 11-19-2009 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LexiLexxx (Post 16567222)
Sad deal all around, BUT....3 yr old kids don't lie.

I can tell you never had children.

if you had a cookie jar and you told a 3 year old to not eat the cookies or he'll get spanking and the kid ate one when you left the room and you come back and asked him if he ate the cookie, he will in fact lie.

brassmonkey 11-19-2009 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16567257)
I can tell you never had children.

if you had a cookie jar and you told a 3 year old to not eat the cookies or he'll get spanking and the kid ate one when you left the room and you come back and asked him if he ate the cookie, he will in fact lie.

i have more than 3 :1orglaughand they all made up stuff if someone kept telling a kid stuff they will think its true sometimes

Libertine 11-19-2009 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LexiLexxx (Post 16567222)
Sad deal all around, BUT....3 yr old kids don't lie.[...]


Jimmy Rock 11-19-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16567193)
How? Did the 3 year old tell him? Only the police would have an inkling if it were true because they could actually INVESTIGATE and gather EVIDENCE. The police said they weren't even investigating it.

This guy is an asshole. While I would be disgusted if my son had molesed a 3 year old, if I heard allegations, as his father I would

A) Believe my son if he said he didn't do it

B) wait for ALL the evidence to come in.

Maybe the dad did it and the son found out and was going to tell.

I'm sure if that where the case, the son had past issues with this kind of thing. Does not make the father right in any case, but I doubt this was the first time the father heard something like this and just went out and shot his son, but then again crazier shit has happened so who knows.

_Richard_ 11-19-2009 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rowan (Post 16566808)
Yeah well, it does say he forced him to strip at gunpoint..... :helpme

wondering about that too.. sad story

digifan 11-19-2009 12:29 PM

What an idiot... killing his own son.

chronig 11-19-2009 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LexiLexxx (Post 16567222)
Sad deal all around, BUT....3 yr old kids don't lie. I don't care how you try to twist and turn it. The Dad should have never taken matters into his own hands.

No where does it say that the father 'heard' the allegation from the 3 year old him/herself. But you, and a couple of others, are too fucking stupid to realize that it doesn't even say that. :uhoh

It says the father killed his son because he HEARD that his son molested a 3 year old, but it doesn't say who he heard it from.

Infact, the father could have killed his son for an assortment of fucked up reasons, and the whole molesting the 3 year old thing could have came long after the fact, conspired, and said to the police, as some sort of an excuse, over whatever the real reason was.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-19-2009 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 16567196)
If he didn't have access to a gun he couldn't have kill his son like a coward.

Can't speak for the father, but I'm pretty sure I could kill your average 15 year old with my bare hands...

ipolic 11-19-2009 01:43 PM

An angry father in a mad bloodlust rage, without thinking of the consequences, shoots his 15-year-old son in a burst of terrifying gory blood passion. What a fucking idiot.

brassmonkey 11-19-2009 01:53 PM

damn it was his half sister :( http://www.abcnews.go.com/WN/father-...ory?id=9127703

brassmonkey 11-19-2009 01:56 PM

shit he's a damn postal worker :disgust

L-Pink 11-19-2009 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey (Post 16567659)

WoW, the 15 year old boy confessed doing it to his mother!


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NikKay 11-24-2009 08:51 AM

If you read all the press, it says the teenager told his mother that he had sexual contact with his 3-year-old sister and she called the father to help her figure out what to do. I'm betting Mom didn't expect Dad to react like he did.

LoveSandra 11-24-2009 09:20 AM

it`s fucked up


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