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Darrah 11-23-2009 10:54 PM

Porn Industry Lies to California State Assembly
 
Thank you to Sam who sent me this!

http://docs.google.com/www.nswp.org/pdf/CAL-ADULTFILM.PDF


Lets take a close look at the testimony given to the State Assembly of California after the 2004 HIV outbreak. This is from June, 2004.

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?AIM?s HIV statistics show that in over 80,000 tests performed on talent only 16 cases of HIV have been found in nearly seven years. Additionally, six were found positive who never worked in porn due to the fact that the protocols of negative status were followed by producers?
While this may sound impressive, 80,000 tests, what it doesn?t say is how many individual were tested. 16 positives out of 80,000 seems rather low, but the actual number of people tested is much lower. Any performer who is in the industry for a year has 12 tests done. Any performer who has been around for four or five years have 40 to 60 tests done. AIM will never tell anybody how many individuals have been tested over the years, lest the real percentage of positive performers would be known, and this is the biggest and most closely kept secret the industry has.

http://www.avert.org/usa-states-cities.htm

AIM reports 16 positives out of who know how many total performers. The link above shows that most states have anywhere from two to 25 HIV infections per 100,000. Considering AIM has 16 out of, and I will make a very high estimate of 10,000 individual performers, it is plain to see that the HIV rate in porn is astronomically higher than the general public.

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??many performers were concerned about their privacy and felt that their records were not private.?
Of course they felt that way. At AIM you sign a waiver that allows them to give your results to third parties. All you have to do is call AIM, and if you know the performers real name they will fax you a copy of their results. The HIPPA violations here are too many to list. There must be an individual waiver for every single disclosure of results that includes the name of the third party to whom the results are being given.

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?Dr. Mitchell then testified about what has been done since the the HIV infections to improve the system. All records kept at AIM regarding HIV and monthly STD screening can be accessed by producers and directors?
So much for that privacy issue they keep trying to hide behind. As stated above, access to patient records is not limited to directors and producers. ANYBODY who knows a performers real name can simply call AIM and get their HIV medical records.

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?AIM has also contacted the non-condom companies to push the testing window period to two weeks, and PAY for testing. All travelers and new talent will test, wait two weeks, and then have an additional test at the end of two weeks. They must either use condoms during the two week period, or refrain from working.?
The push for two week testing lasted just about that long, two weeks, and we all know that performers pay for their own tests (the vast, vast majority). And the two week waiting period for newbies, we all know that is a joke and this policy was never implemented or followed by any company.

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?AIM has also been given the donation of ADULTDAT, software which allows production managers to input the individual encounters in each scene they have shot that day. With this technology AIM can make a quarantine list in a matter of minutes, rather than the typical four hours.?
This system was NEVER put into use. But this is why the authorities think AIM has this information. AIM has never told OSHA or County Health that this system was NEVER put into place.

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?The industry culture, according to Dr. Mitchell, is becoming more and more condom compliant every day. She believes it will not help to legislate. Dr, Mitchell closed her testimony by saying that the industry?s system works very well and with the new improvements and more and more producers moving towards safer sex and condom use, it is costing no government money at this time.?
Is this a joke. More and more condom compliant every day. This appears, at least to me, to be intentionally misleading, if not an outright lie.

In summation, virtually everything Dr. Mitchell testified about regarding the testing protocols since the April 2004 outbreak is FALSE.

There is no two week testing, no companies paying for tests, no waiting period for newbies, no quarantine of traveling performers, no ADULTDAT system, and certainly no more condom usage in the industry. And now AIM is footing the legal bills to keep the identity of producers confidential. It seems like the privacy of producers is more important than the performers.

Thanks Darrah,
SAM

Huggles 11-24-2009 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Darrah (Post 16579379)
It seems like the privacy of producers is more important than the performers.

Thanks Darrah,
SAM


Of course it is, producers are more rare than performers. It takes very little to be a performer, other than having a vagina or cock and be willing to step in front of a camera. Has this industry ever been more than a meat grinder for profit?

TheDoc 11-24-2009 05:56 AM

We have a hell of a lot more than 10,000 performers... in America alone. Anyway, your math is a guess on a topic that you shouldn't be guessing on.

L-Pink 11-24-2009 06:13 AM

The general public number is also meaningless because it includes to many people that aren't out fucking every weekend.

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Pleasurepays 11-24-2009 06:18 AM

why wouldn't anyone with an agenda lie about this industry?

who is going to defend you?

all you fucking morons are too dumb, too backwards and too dysfunctional to mount a real defense and set the record straight anyway. everytime you try, you sound exactly like the pompous, "i'll do what i want and FUCK YOU if you don't like it" pornographer that everyone expects, saying exactly what was expected and exhibiting the same smug, immature attitude that everyone expected.

you are everything the public thinks you are. that's why you get attacked. that's why you have no defense... and no one defending you.

Barefootsies 11-24-2009 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16580068)
why wouldn't anyone with an agenda lie about this industry?

who is going to defend you?

all you fucking morons are too dumb, too backwards and too dysfunctional to mount a real defense and set the record straight anyway. everytime you try, you sound exactly like the pompous, "i'll do what i want and FUCK YOU if you don't like it" pornographer that everyone expects, saying exactly what was expected and exhibiting the same smug, immature attitude that everyone expected.

you are everything the public thinks you are. that's why you get attacked. that's why you have no defense... and no one defending you.

Tell us how you really feel.
:winkwink:

cherrylula 11-24-2009 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 16580306)
Tell us how you really feel.
:winkwink:

i always wonder why those who seem to hate our industry continue to post on a porn related board.. :thumbsup

Pleasurepays 11-24-2009 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 16580314)
i always wonder why those who seem to hate our industry continue to post on a porn related board.. :thumbsup

i don't hate this industry... i think it is exactly what it is.

its an industry full of maladjusted, anti social retards who think the world owes them something as everyone stands united in screaming to the general public "fuck you, i'll do anything i want!"

if i thought everyone here was truly brilliant, professional and competent, i would be somewhere else, doing something else... just as acacia would have started somewhere else with their "patent" enforcement.

dyna mo 11-24-2009 08:43 AM

no different than any other industry.

american pervert 11-24-2009 08:48 AM

Darrah- aids testing for the general public is not mandatory, such as it is in american porn, so you will never get any true numbers.

Tom_PM 11-24-2009 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16580350)
i don't hate this industry... i think it is exactly what it is.

its an industry full of maladjusted, anti social retards who think the world owes them something as everyone stands united in screaming to the general public "fuck you, i'll do anything i want!"

if i thought everyone here was truly brilliant, professional and competent, i would be somewhere else, doing something else... just as acacia would have started somewhere else with their "patent" enforcement.

Serious here. What industry does NOT have the exact same elements of people? You're just catering to the low-brow knuckle dragging morons. If you judge anything based on the segment that says "fu", you will have negative reviews of everything. Why dont you try to adjust YOUR attitude?

Pleasurepays 11-24-2009 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16580468)
Serious here. What industry does NOT have the exact same elements of people? You're just catering to the low-brow knuckle dragging morons. If you judge anything based on the segment that says "fu", you will have negative reviews of everything. Why dont you try to adjust YOUR attitude?

i dunno? what industry? you tell me.

almost any industry has the intelligence to look forward, represent itself, protect its interests, protect its image, protect its legal position etc. you couldn't find another industry that's this large and this fragmented, backwards and dysfunctional and that's because of the people in it.

this industry and those in it have a horrible public image and generally are lumped in with the worst of the worst in society.. in fact, mainstream media NEVER distinguishes between legal pornography and illegal CP rings in eastern europe or whatever. YOU are THEM to a large portion of the general public. this is an industry of self serving, "fuck you, i'm gonna get mine" jackasses which devotes the largest amount of time to enabling and supporting a disproportionately large % of thieves, scammers and scumbags who in turn, define who and what you are, to the public.

i don't need to adjust my attitude. i'm not in denial. i don't walk into a super max prison thinking "i'm sure there are plenty of great people here... lets just open the gates".

JP-pornshooter 11-24-2009 12:02 PM

and you didnt know all this already?

i still believe AIM was instituted by the large production houses for two purposes:
1. To appease the talent, thinking it is pretty safe to fuck wo condoms.
2. To show externally that the industry is self-medicating and controlling.

for those purposes, AIM is very successful.
and actually they have done a decent job.

Huggles 11-24-2009 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 16580540)
this is an industry of self serving, "fuck you, i'm gonna get mine" jackasses which devotes the largest amount of time to enabling and supporting a disproportionately large % of thieves, scammers and scumbags who in turn, define who and what you are, to the public.


Yes. This is the type of industry where a teary-eyed 18 year old runaway gets off a bus, and where regular people would be interested in helping her, a pornographer would cast her in a rough face fuck and anal gangbang scene for $600.

:thumbsup

marketsmart 11-24-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Huggles (Post 16581423)
Yes. This is the type of industry where a teary-eyed 18 year old runaway gets off a bus, and where regular people would be interested in helping her, a pornographer would cast her in a rough face fuck and anal gangbang scene for $600.

:thumbsup

dude... i can get teary eyed 18 year old runaways for a lot less than $600... :2 cents:

american pervert 11-24-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart (Post 16581432)
dude... i can get teary eyed 18 year old runaways for a lot less than $600... :2 cents:

I'll take 2... thanks!

Huggles 11-24-2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by american pervert (Post 16581486)
I'll take 2... thanks!

:disgust:disgust:disgust:disgust:disgust

Tom_PM 11-24-2009 02:24 PM

Who cares what someone outside the industry says, when we have people inside saying it for them? Ever think of it that way?

fatfoo 11-24-2009 02:35 PM

HIV sucks. Random comment: use protection of condoms/etc. It helps stop STDs and unwanted pregnancies.

Pleasurepays 11-24-2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16581784)
Who cares what someone outside the industry says, when we have people inside saying it for them? Ever think of it that way?


yeah... you're right. if a german guy is standing inside nazi germany saying "hmm... maybe we should rethink this whole "nazi" thing and the direction we're headed.." - he's clearly the problem.


jesus man



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