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$5 submissions 12-12-2009 01:50 PM

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE: Firefox maker urges FF users to drop Google
 
My comment: WTF ever happened to "Don't be evil"? :helpme:Oh crap:mad:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...e-for-bing.ars
Asa Dotzler, Mozilla's director of community development, used his personal blog to urge Firefox users away from Google and to use Microsoft's search engine Bing, instead. Dotzler cited privacy concerns, specifically pointing to comments recently made by Google CEO Eric Schmidt.

"I think judgment matters," said Schmidt. "If you have something that you don't want anyone to know, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place." Dotzler then links to the Bing add-on for Firefox, stating that Bing's privacy policy is better than Google's (and notably fails to mention Yahoo at all).

Schmidt was talking about laws in the US, but the way he worded his beliefs did not sit well with privacy advocates?and a whole lot of other folks?including Dotzler. Microsoft has to respect the Patriot Act and other laws just as Google does, but after seeing Schmidt's comments, Dotzler decided that Firefox users need to be reminded of Bing's existence.

Google's philosophy is that the more open information is, the better it is for everyone, especially the search giant, which makes money by organizing said information and then displaying as relevant as possible ads beside it. Microsoft, on the other hand, while still a business that like, any other, wants to make money, has a long history of dealing with privacy concerns and regulations, so it's eager to avoid potential issues if possible. Dotzler, a 10-year-veteran at Mozilla, is saying that if you care about your privacy, remember that Bing is better than Google, at least in that department.

u-Bob 12-12-2009 01:52 PM

Google is evil, no doubt about it...

(and promoting other search engines might even be a good idea from an seo perspective :) )

fatfoo 12-12-2009 02:00 PM

Firefox vs. Google - it's not surprising.

It's like Coca Cola vs. Pepsi.

Or Mcdonalds vs. Burger King.

CPimp 12-12-2009 02:04 PM

Bing will try anything, won't they? I wonder how much Bing paid the FF CEO to do this shit.

Everyone has a price.

$5 submissions 12-12-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tube2k (Post 16639920)
Bing will try anything, won't they? I wonder how much Bing paid the FF CEO to do this shit.

Everyone has a price.

Interesting theory.

ilbb 12-12-2009 02:25 PM

big brother is watching you

burntfilm 12-12-2009 02:31 PM

It's too late to affect this. Google is the internet now.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-12-2009 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tube2k (Post 16639920)
Bing will try anything, won't they? I wonder how much Bing paid the FF CEO to do this shit.

Everyone has a price.

I believe I read somewhere that Google is Firefox's main source offunding, paying something to the tune of 70 million dollars for the contract as the primary search engine for the FireFox browser.

Seems like a pretty big paycheck to be chancing by urging people away from the search engine, no? With the recent news about Bing and MS's paid to index plans, could this be a sign. When the contract runs out, could Bing be the ones gunning for the sponsored search engine position within FF?

Wouldn't surprise me. MS is coming out swinging with Bing.

Michael O 12-12-2009 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Angry Jew Cat (Post 16639994)
I believe I read somewhere that Google is Firefox's main source offunding, paying something to the tune of 70 million dollars for the contract as the primary search engine for the FireFox browser.

Seems like a pretty big paycheck to be chancing by urging people away from the search engine, no? With the recent news about Bing and MS's paid to index plans, could this be a sign. When the contract runs out, could Bing be the ones gunning for the sponsored search engine position within FF?

Wouldn't surprise me. MS is coming out swinging with Bing.

They get a cut of the cut of the Adsense revenue made from people using the Toolbar with google on the top right in FF.

Jarmusch 12-12-2009 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael O (Post 16640062)
They get a cut of the cut of the Adsense revenue made from people using the Toolbar with google on the top right in FF.

I thought the biggest cut came from the default FF start page, that is a personalized google search page

cambaby 12-12-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tube2k (Post 16639920)
Bing will try anything, won't they? I wonder how much Bing paid the FF CEO to do this shit.

Everyone has a price.

Give me a break, did you even see the video with the CEO talking about privacy issues? Not only that this week Google rolled out automatic anonymous search history, AND Chrome has been reporting "home" for months about users surfing habits. You OPT IN to be spied upon by default by using Google's products. A day of reckoning for this company WILL come eventually, they simply cannot continue to operate like this. Just ask Microsoft.

Michael O 12-12-2009 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cambaby (Post 16640090)
Give me a break, did you even see the video with the CEO talking about privacy issues? Not only that this week Google rolled out automatic anonymous search history, AND Chrome has been reporting "home" for months about users surfing habits. You OPT IN to be spied upon by default by using Google's products. A day of reckoning for this company WILL come eventually, they simply cannot continue to operate like this. Just ask Microsoft.

Just what I read, I know not everything you read on the inderweb is true:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla...tion#Financing


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firefox...ip_with_Google

SomeCreep 12-12-2009 03:58 PM

Bing? Nigga, please.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-12-2009 04:23 PM

When people start saying "Just Bing it!" then, and only then, will Google be hurt by anything. :2 cents:

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 12-12-2009 04:54 PM

Google pays...

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28...e-for-3-years/

edit: this article claims $57mil in 2006

$5 submissions 12-12-2009 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burntfilm (Post 16639969)
It's too late to affect this. Google is the internet now.

Yeah, I wonder what nifty uses they'll find from their DNS service's info :Oh crap

area51 - BANNED FOR LIFE 12-12-2009 06:30 PM

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cykoe6 12-12-2009 08:24 PM

Thanks for FF for speaking out about this.


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